B&MBoy1982 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Well, I for one hope they fix the awful problem with the restraints tightening. It is just a HUGE inconvenience for a SAFETY system to be SAFE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koasterking48 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 The trains have arrived according to KI Twitter. I'm sure pics are soon to come! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrillrider Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Can' t wait to see them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alilstronger Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I've never had any issues with tightening restraints on Gatekeeper or Wild Eagle. We rode Gatekeeper on Labor Day weekend so that issue was fixed, but as far as I know it's still an issue on Wild Eagle right? If the restraints did tighten I didn't notice, I found both coasters to be incredibly comfortable. My harness did not tighten on Gatekeeper either. I went 4th of July weekend and rode a few times. The seats are very comfortable in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJeXeL Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Special delivery! Source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Turbo Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I can't wait to see what they look like uncovered! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveStL Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Slap 'em on and let's Ride! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeFaller Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I really hope these vests won't try to kill me! Why don't they use the usual B&M restraints? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koasterking48 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I feel like this thread is a broken record, because it has been stated MANY times that the vests will not be locking or tightening during the ride. Don has confirmed that in an interview a while ago. Sorry if I sound rude, but so many people have been asking about the vests on this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarheel1231 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I really hope these vests won't try to kill me! Why don't they use the usual B&M restraints? The usual ones are prone to headbanging and the vest eliminates that. Here is a better photo: Lookin' sexy! Found from here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traincrossin Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I remember the restraints tightening on wild eagle, and it really added to the discomfort. If the restraints tighten, then the trains might not be a big hit with the GP. They might wish for the old ones back. Hopefully though, they will do the opposite and beg that every B&M invert has these trains. I don't have the source off hand, but the park has mentioned that the restraints will have the modification that Gatekeepers restraints had in the 2nd half of the season; So there shouldn't be any tightening. And if you rode GateKeeper with those modified restraints you know how much better they are! Here's another picture of the train, loving the yellow! Maybe a sleigh would have been better in the snow but happy to receive our first #Banshee train! Tweet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. M Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I feel like this thread is a broken record, because it has been stated MANY times that the vests will not be locking or tightening during the ride. Don has confirmed that in an interview a while ago. Sorry if I sound rude, but so many people have been asking about the vests on this thread. I guess we have no reason to think he might've been talking out of his butt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
necoastergp Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Now I haven't ridden a wing rider yet, so I have no experience with these types of restraints but I think these look a lot more comfortable too me. I have nothing against traditional B&M invert restraints other than when I get stapled in and get stuck on a break run and a minor complaint of arm room, but these seem much more roomy and less restricting and I look forward to trying them out someday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcjp Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 ^Well, they do prevent headbanging and there is more "arm room" but due to their shape your arm movement is kind of limited (you can't fully raise your hands normally, at least I couldn't) and then there is the tightening issue which you usually only notice when the ride is over. Last but not least, the way they glue you to your seat means you can't really feel some forces like floater air (I know gatekeeper's big hill does provide a little negative Gs but I just couldn't feel it, the same thing with the zero-g roll where with the old restraints you would lift a bit and move about slightly) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPSFMMCW Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 those trains are looking great! I think that the GP of people will like the trains a lot more, since there will be no head banging. I hope we see B&M inverts get new trains like this (hint hint cedar fair you should do this) as they look good and make it easier to see if you're not in the front Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lareson Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 I've mentioned this before, but I don't think we'll see these new trains on previous inverts because of clearance issues. They're about a foot or two wider than the old design and even that much can cause a lot of issues. I know lifts would be the big clearance issue, would basically require a rebuild of the whole catwalk to make it wide enough to make the clearance. It would be nice to have these trains on inverts, but don't think we'll be seeing them added anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.J. Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 I really hope these vests won't try to kill me! Why don't they use the usual B&M restraints? It's 2014, not 1992. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKI Jizzman Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Registered for media day, I'll be there 5am-2pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B&MBoy1982 Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 I really hope these vests won't try to kill me! Why don't they use the usual B&M restraints? It's 2014, not 1992. What does it being 2014 have to do with anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azza29 Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 New trains look good. The vest-style seats are definitely more comfortable but, at least for me, a little more restrictive. I fit fine in a regular B&M seat but had to use the "big boy" row on Gatekeeper. I'm sure the park will put a test seat out the front though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerstlaueringvar Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 I really hope these vests won't try to kill me! Why don't they use the usual B&M restraints? It's 2014, not 1992. I think 2014 means more comfortable, not more pain. Wing riders are truly painful for me when the vest harness keep tightening. Their 1992 style restraints, while is a bit old, worked well on a lot of their rides after 1992. But since Banshee's harness were confirmed not locking and had already been said 1,000 times in this thread, I think this would be an improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarheel1231 Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 ^No one will get it unless you put it into big bold text: THE PARK HAS CONFIRMED THAT THE HARNESSES WILL NOT BE LOCKING!!!!! PLEASE STOP ASKING OR WORRYING ABOUT THAT!!!! Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterbill Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 The usual ones are prone to headbanging and the vest eliminates that. I think that the GP of people will like the trains a lot more, since there will be no head banging. I've never heard anyone complain about headbanging on any B&M invert at any park, anywhere ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerstlaueringvar Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 The usual ones are prone to headbanging and the vest eliminates that. I think that the GP of people will like the trains a lot more, since there will be no head banging. I've never heard anyone complain about headbanging on any B&M invert at any park, anywhere ever. SFGAm Batman, SFFT Goliath, Raptor CP during Cobra Roll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaithPlus1 Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 ^The entire ride on any of the Batman Clones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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