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p. 53 - Nighttime trip report!

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Is Canyon Blaster as rough as the other Arrow Loopers?

 

Regardless, an indoor coaster of that size in that confined space . . . . . great engineering/design

 

Not at all. I don’t have much of an issue with most Arrow loopers anyway, but Canyon Blaster is by far the smoothest one I’ve ridden.

 

Weirdly enough, I actually thought El Loco was rougher. Not in the sense that it rides the track poorly, but the transitions on El Loco felt much more jerky and uncomfortable than those on Canyon Blaster.

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Canyon blaster is only slightly less rough than a typical arrow looper. It’s fun for what it is, but it’s still an arrow looper with newer trains.

 

Are those the same type trains that went on Drachen Fire? They look the same. Sort of interesting some other newer Arrows didn't get those trains (like Tennessee Tornado), but maybe that's because Drachen's reception wasn't too positive.

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Canyon Blaster is...interesting. It is not as bad as the other Arrow loopers, and it thankfully does not have that death transition into the Corkscrews that the others do. It is also far more intense than the other Arrow loopers. I was surprised by how strong the G’s in the loops are.

 

Overall, I would say Canyon Blaster is one of my favorite Arrows, and my second favorite Arrow looper after Tennessee Tornado.

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Are those the same type trains that went on Drachen Fire? They look the same. Sort of interesting some other newer Arrows didn't get those trains (like Tennessee Tornado), but maybe that's because Drachen's reception wasn't too positive.

Tennessee Tornado did get the new-generation train design, but I believe that they went with the old-style blocky body for thematic purposes. There are some giveaways, such as the taller headrests.

 

From what I understand, Arrow built five coasters with the new-generation train. I believe that Tennessee Tornado and the roller coaster at Al-Sha'ab in Kuwait have the new chassis with the old-style body; Drachen Fire and Canyon Blaster had / have the new chassis and new-style body. The fifth is the Hot Wheels SideWinder at Dreamworld in Australia. When it was the Cyclone there and the Big Dipper in its previous location, it had the new chassis / new body, but a few seasons ago they put the new Vekoma trains on it. I would assume that the Adventuredome bought the old trains to use for spare parts.

 

Obviously, Arrow started using a new track rail / spine / tie design in the mid-90s too. Al-Sha'ab's coaster and Tennessee Tornado have it, and Road Runner Express at Fiesta Texas has it as well. Those, and X at Six Flags Magic Mountain, were the only "big" coasters that Arrow built with the newer designs before they went down the toilet for the last time. It kind of makes me wonder about the kinds of coasters we'd be seeing from Arrow today if A) they were still around and B) Schilke was still doing work for them.

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I have a trip report on the way but I liked Canyon Blaster a lot. It's the best coaster in Vegas in my opinion. I slightly prefer it to El Loco. It's super intense, the cheesy tunnel is cool. Yeah it throws you around once or twice, but I like it.

 

Canyon Blasteer is an awesome little coaster. The positive g’s on the loops kick arse.

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Are those the same type trains that went on Drachen Fire? They look the same. Sort of interesting some other newer Arrows didn't get those trains (like Tennessee Tornado), but maybe that's because Drachen's reception wasn't too positive.

Tennessee Tornado did get the new-generation train design, but I believe that they went with the old-style blocky body for thematic purposes. There are some giveaways, such as the taller headrests.

 

From what I understand, Arrow built five coasters with the new-generation train. I believe that Tennessee Tornado and the roller coaster at Al-Sha'ab in Kuwait have the new chassis with the old-style body; Drachen Fire and Canyon Blaster had / have the new chassis and new-style body. The fifth is the Hot Wheels SideWinder at Dreamworld in Australia. When it was the Cyclone there and the Big Dipper in its previous location, it had the new chassis / new body, but a few seasons ago they put the new Vekoma trains on it. I would assume that the Adventuredome bought the old trains to use for spare parts.

 

Obviously, Arrow started using a new track rail / spine / tie design in the mid-90s too. Al-Sha'ab's coaster and Tennessee Tornado have it, and Road Runner Express at Fiesta Texas has it as well. Those, and X at Six Flags Magic Mountain, were the only "big" coasters that Arrow built with the newer designs before they went down the toilet for the last time. It kind of makes me wonder about the kinds of coasters we'd be seeing from Arrow today if A) they were still around and B) Schilke was still doing work for them.

 

That’s very cool! I never noticed the other new-train ones. I didn’t think there were even 5!

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Are those the same type trains that went on Drachen Fire? They look the same. Sort of interesting some other newer Arrows didn't get those trains (like Tennessee Tornado), but maybe that's because Drachen's reception wasn't too positive.

Tennessee Tornado did get the new-generation train design, but I believe that they went with the old-style blocky body for thematic purposes. There are some giveaways, such as the taller headrests.

 

From what I understand, Arrow built five coasters with the new-generation train. I believe that Tennessee Tornado and the roller coaster at Al-Sha'ab in Kuwait have the new chassis with the old-style body; Drachen Fire and Canyon Blaster had / have the new chassis and new-style body. The fifth is the Hot Wheels SideWinder at Dreamworld in Australia. When it was the Cyclone there and the Big Dipper in its previous location, it had the new chassis / new body, but a few seasons ago they put the new Vekoma trains on it. I would assume that the Adventuredome bought the old trains to use for spare parts.

 

Obviously, Arrow started using a new track rail / spine / tie design in the mid-90s too. Al-Sha'ab's coaster and Tennessee Tornado have it, and Road Runner Express at Fiesta Texas has it as well. Those, and X at Six Flags Magic Mountain, were the only "big" coasters that Arrow built with the newer designs before they went down the toilet for the last time. It kind of makes me wonder about the kinds of coasters we'd be seeing from Arrow today if A) they were still around and B) Schilke was still doing work for them.

 

Since you mentioned it, I must say that I find Roller Coaster @ Al-Sha'ab Leisure Park a very intriguing ride. At first glance it looks like your standard Arrow loop/corkscrew coaster, but it's definitely not. Not only does it have the newer track style, but the track shaping appears to be a lot more advanced and smooth compared to the rides Arrow built just a few years earlier. I wonder how well it rides...

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  • 3 weeks later...

So, as I was going through the coaster poll adding coasters from Japan, I discovered that the Corkscrew at Toshimaen in the Tokyo area (one of Arrow's older coasters) also received a second-gen Arrow train sometime during or before 1999. Pretty cool!

 

https://rcdb.com/1204.htm

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Not completely Adventuredome related, but does anyone know why Desperado at Buffalo Bill's is listed as "closed until further notice" on their website? I'm going to Las Vegas in a few weeks and would like to take a ride on Desperado if I can get the chance.

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^ & ^^ Buffalo Bills is closed for a renovation currently. I was in Las Vegas at the very beginning of this past December and the website still said the coaster would be open. My friends & I drove out there to ride and that’s when we found out the whole resort and casino is closed for now.

 

They must not have an estimated time for completion.

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^^If you read some recent reviews of Buffalo Bills you'll see that it sounds pretty bad over there. Entire complex closed, hotel closed, shops closed, restaurants closed, all different combinations of this on different days. People even showed up with reservations only to find a sign that said "go across the street to one of our other properties and we'll help you there"!

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I was at Buffalo Bill's a couple of years ago and it was in really bad shape.

 

While Desperado was a decent ride in it's early days it was one of the roughest rides I've ever had on a coaster on this last visit. It's a shame because Buffalo Bill's has such a unique atmosphere when it's run properly. I think when it was run by a company called Terrible's the name was appropriate because all of the Primm Valley Resorts are absolutely terrible. I think the only reason Desperado won't be the first defunct Arrow hyper (I'm not counting Steel Phantom) is because Titan at Space World barely beat it to closing first. I wouldn't be surprised if Desperado is closed for good.

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According to news reports dated around the end of November, the entire resort closed for renovations (we saw it ourselves, as we were in Vegas just before then and saw it all fenced off), but was scheduled to reopen Christmas Eve of last year. Their website says they're currently taking reservations... can anyone else confirm? Or know of the status of the rides?

 

Update: just saw on their website that "all amusement rides are closed until further notice".

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^ & ^^ Buffalo Bills is closed for a renovation currently. I was in Las Vegas at the very beginning of this past December and the website still said the coaster would be open. My friends & I drove out there to ride and that’s when we found out the whole resort and casino is closed for now.

 

They must not have an estimated time for completion.

 

Buffalo Bills was open in January. I stopped by just to see if it was open, and look around. It was dead inside, but also a weekday. Arcade was closed but all lit up. I think at least one fast food place was open near the Desperado. Not sure what they are renovating, i guess the rooms. the casino looked like i had remembered the last time i was in there. I usually never stop in but was taking my sweet time driving into vegas.

 

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they still have the same exact shirt from when it was new. i probably owned around 5 of these 20 years ago. lol

 

btw, sorry, i also have no information of when it might be open.

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Buffalo Bills was open in January. I stopped by just to see if it was open, and look around. It was dead inside, but also a weekday. Arcade was closed but all lit up. I think at least one fast food place was open near the Desperado. Not sure what they are renovating, i guess the rooms. the casino looked like i had remembered the last time i was in there. I usually never stop in but was taking my sweet time driving into vegas.

 

Okay gotcha, sad to hear the resort is open again but the coaster is not. The day of my visit was Sunday, December 3rd, I've been out of the loop since then.

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Buffalo Bills was open in January. I stopped by just to see if it was open, and look around. It was dead inside, but also a weekday. Arcade was closed but all lit up. I think at least one fast food place was open near the Desperado. Not sure what they are renovating, i guess the rooms. the casino looked like i had remembered the last time i was in there. I usually never stop in but was taking my sweet time driving into vegas.

 

Okay gotcha, sad to hear the resort is open again but the coaster is not. The day of my visit was Sunday, December 3rd, I've been out of the loop since then.

 

i stop there to go to the shopping outlets. i knew it had been closed, but was driving by and saw cars, so decided to go see if it was open. everything looked normal. so i'm not sure how long it had been open when i went. might have been the day before for all i know. lol

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