Geauga Dog Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 While I'd like to see Iron Wolf stay, especially if it got new trains, it makes sense to remove it, although, like has been said, SFA people won't be happy to be getting a used coaster. SFA isn't going to promote it as being a "used" coaster. Despite this news of Iron Wolf leaving SFGAm this should be looked upon as great news for SFA. How long have people been complaining about the need for a new coaster at that park? I'd surely take IW over KD's Shock Wave anyday, especially if they get the Georgia Scorcher-style trains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven6995 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Maybe they could just fix up Roar a little and add MF trains to it. That would be a substantial improvement! To be honest, any kind of large scale coaster in that spot where SM was is just gonna look tacky. It is right in the middle of everything else. A small footprint ride is what needs to go there. Save the next biggie for out back around Superman and Batwing. If (or maybe I should say when) Iron Wolf goes into that spot between Wild One and ROAR!, SFA is going to look a lot like an American version of Nasu Highland, except the coasters won't be in technicolor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathbydinn Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 (edited) A reader sent in a screen capture showing off a permit application apparently filed by Six Flags America the other week for a “Stand Up Coaster” that they came across on the local government website (verified). So consider this the near confirmation that Iron Wolf is coming. http://screamscape.com/html/six_flags_america.htm Edited July 28, 2011 by ernierocker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terdferg Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Great. Another relocated stand-up on the east coast. I was really hoping for a Eurofighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skycoastin Steve Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 While I think the Iron Wolf rumor is pretty far fetched, I will buy a front row ticket to the SFA fanboys' meltdown if it happens. This was from June 13, and I've got my money ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDCOASTERFAN Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 A reader sent in a screen capture showing off a permit application apparently filed by Six Flags America the other week for a “Stand Up Coaster” that they came across on the local government website (verified). So consider this the near confirmation that Iron Wolf is coming. http://screamscape.com/html/six_flags_america.htm That could be for the 140ft tall standup that was replaced by Batwing 11 years ago....it was attraction #37 on the original 99 DSP for the park.I so wish I could find the printout I made of that list years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilrider Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 A reader sent in a screen capture showing off a permit application apparently filed by Six Flags America the other week for a “Stand Up Coaster” that they came across on the local government website (verified). So consider this the near confirmation that Iron Wolf is coming. http://screamscape.com/html/six_flags_america.htm That could be for the 140ft tall standup that was replaced by Batwing 11 years ago....it was attraction #37 on the original 99 DSP for the park.I so wish I could find the printout I made of that list years ago. The date of the permit is July 14, 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Farmer Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 The date of the permit is July 14, 2011. I think he meant that the alleged plans that were shelved in favor of Batwing would be making their return, however, with all the chatter about Iron Wolf going to Maryland, I don't think a decade old idea would be resurrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDCOASTERFAN Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 The date of the permit is July 14, 2011. I think he meant that the alleged plans that were shelved in favor of Batwing would be making their return, however, with all the chatter about Iron Wolf going to Maryland, I don't think a decade old idea would be resurrected. Sadly that's a likely probability. Perhaps if this relocation goes over well then maybe they''l add other new rides as well,like a new coaster to replace two face in SWT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterfreak101 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 ^That's what I was thinking - hopefully they can get a decent ROI and make one or two bigger investments soon enough down the road! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffguy Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Could it be possible that theyre getting the six flags astroworld standup thats been in storage for all these years up at DL, and not iron wolf ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFGAm Shock Wave Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 ^ One, that ride was in bad condition 5 years ago, and now definitely has no chance of ever being rebuilt. Two, Six Flags gave up ownership of that ride when they sold Darien Lake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDCOASTERFAN Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Could it be possible that theyre getting the six flags astroworld standup thats been in storage for all these years up at DL, and not iron wolf ? No as A: that ride is no longer in repairable condition & B:SFI no longer has ownership of it. They could always be getting a new compact standup design from B&M,after all didn't someone report seeing B&M reps in the park a while back? & just because B&M havn't been building new standups lately doesn't mean they havn't gotten orders from parks for one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RomanHORSEman Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 I normally plan to make my way back to an amusement park when they build a roller coaster. Iron Wolf does not at all make me want to go back to SFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terdferg Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 How long do they plan on keeping the ride there? It is already 21 years old. Just does not make sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liftsifter Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 No one knows the life span of a B&M yet, and apparently, Six Flags wants to find that out! haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kumbarider1993 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Could it be possible that theyre getting the six flags astroworld standup thats been in storage for all these years up at DL, and not iron wolf ? No as A: that ride is no longer in repairable condition & B:SFI no longer has ownership of it. They could always be getting a new compact standup design from B&M,after all didn't someone report seeing B&M reps in the park a while back? & just because B&M havn't been building new standups lately doesn't mean they havn't gotten orders from parks for one. I couldn't agree more, why would six flags move a 21 year old coaster that's pretty famous for being the first B&M. It's been a GAm staple an it's not like the ride rotation program is still around. I obviously don't know intimate knowledge and wouldn't put it past them, but a new design is fairly likely also. It also would be more marketable i imagine And who says it has to be compact, they still have all that land back by superman and it's not like there's a ride in the way anymore this is really exiting, i can't wait to see how it turns out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDCOASTERFAN Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 ^While they do have plenty of land then why remove SM in the first place? they could easily put a new ride in between batwing & ROS without the added demolition costs for the water ride so my guess is that it would have to fit in that specific space that SM currently takes up. Even with this coaster coming(whatever it is) it will still take a LOT of work on SFI's part to turn the park around to make me want to return,for starters remove the l0kerz & the paid line jumping system & continue adding new rides & coasters on a consistent basis like they did in the beginning & then I just might consider coming back & giving the park another chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathbydinn Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 ^ I think Skull Mountain being removed had more to do with the costs of operating it and maintence problems, not that they needed the space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kumbarider1993 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 ^While they do have plenty of land then why remove SM in the first place? they could easily put a new ride in between batwing & ROS without the added demolition costs for the water ride so my guess is that it would have to fit in that specific space that SM currently takes up. I actually thought the same thing. before they announced they were removing skull mountain, for fun, i designed a coaster in no limits for the park and that is the sight i chose for the ride! i don't know why they didn't use that, doesn't make much sense i mean they have plenty of space in that huge fields on both sides of the partway and could easily put a new ride, uggg, well i don't make those choices so whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoshiFan Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 I couldn't agree more, why would six flags move a 21 year old coaster that's pretty famous for being the first B&M. It's been a GAm staple an it's not like the ride rotation program is still around. Screamscape is saying the ride rotation program is probably going to return with Iron Wolf likely going to SFA and rumors of Deja Vu going to SFNE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airtime Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 (edited) Even with this coaster coming(whatever it is) it will still take a LOT of work on SFI's part to turn the park around to make me want to return,for starters remove the l0kerz & the paid line jumping system & continue adding new rides & coasters on a consistent basis like they did in the beginning & then I just might consider coming back & giving the park another chance. First, if you would use some common sense you would understand why they took the ride out. It had problems that just didn't make it worth the investment anymore. Second, quit acting like your ever going back to the park. You know they are never going to remove Flash Pass. The park has drink stands where you can put your drink cups on each riding platform and the only rides with l*o*c*k*e*r*s are Batwing, Superman, Joker's Jinx and Wild One. For a $1.00 you get two hours piece of mind insurance that your stuff isn't going to walk off. It was also until the staff as improved. That issue has been addressed. New management has been brought in, the park looks better than ever and runs the best it has ran in the nearly 10 years I have been going to it. Not to mention a 97% guest satisfaction rating. As for the rides, you keep changing your story. First it was until they add a new coaster, well guess what it appears their building that B&M that you have wanted for so many years. Now it's rides and coasters on a consistent basis. You know what, I'm convinced you wouldn't return if they built a clone of El Toro. You live within a hour drive of the park and refuse to give the park a day visit on a yearly basis. Edited July 28, 2011 by airtime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liftsifter Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 I couldn't agree more, why would six flags move a 21 year old coaster that's pretty famous for being the first B&M. It's been a GAm staple an it's not like the ride rotation program is still around. Screamscape is saying the ride rotation program is probably going to return with Iron Wolf likely going to SFA and rumors of Deja Vu going to SFNE. You know what that means! When rides are going to be added, specifically coasters, they are not going to be designed to fit an area in a way that makes the ride more interesting, but in a way that makes it easily removable and easy to fit elsewhere.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDCOASTERFAN Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 I couldn't agree more, why would six flags move a 21 year old coaster that's pretty famous for being the first B&M. It's been a GAm staple an it's not like the ride rotation program is still around. Screamscape is saying the ride rotation program is probably going to return with Iron Wolf likely going to SFA and rumors of Deja Vu going to SFNE. SFMM is getting rid of their DV? I thought the only reason they kept it was for the count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrightFest1408 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 I couldn't agree more, why would six flags move a 21 year old coaster that's pretty famous for being the first B&M. It's been a GAm staple an it's not like the ride rotation program is still around. Screamscape is saying the ride rotation program is probably going to return with Iron Wolf likely going to SFA and rumors of Deja Vu going to SFNE. SFMM is getting rid of their DV? I thought the only reason they kept it was for the count. Who ever said that they were......its just a rumor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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