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Was down in MD visiting friends this weekend and after making a quick stop at American Dream on Friday on the ride down (threw a couple pictures on FB), I started the ride back with a stop at American

I was at the park on that day, too. It was actually my first visit, and I couldn't have picked a better day to experience the desolation that is Six Flags America on a November Sunday. There's no way

I miss the Intamin reversing log flume. Better use of the space for sure!

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Here you can see a bit of the bar to the right of Harley Quinn's construction. There is 0 theming on the bar area, at least right now.

 

 

Thanks for sharing, such a shame!

 

I would expect at least cardboard cutouts of the Villains or Wanted Posters possibly.

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On 9/30/2020 at 1:11 PM, DarkRideNick said:

 

Thanks for sharing, such a shame!

 

I would expect at least cardboard cutouts of the Villains or Wanted Posters possibly.

Maybe next year... the bartenders at the bar were extremely nice but very bored. Very few people took advantage of the beer event, even though I felt it was great. 

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Was down in MD visiting friends this weekend and after making a quick stop at American Dream on Friday on the ride down (threw a couple pictures on FB), I started the ride back with a stop at American Nightmare...err...SFA!

 

After a gorgeous day yesterday, today was dreadful with temps in the 40s and showers. I expected to see SFA post that they would be closed for the day but around 6 I decided to head over, parked nice and close, and headed in with a heavy mist falling.

This park gets sh*t on a lot, and for good reason, but on a gloomy night with a small crowd and walk on rides everywhere, it was a good time. Grabbed dinner on the meal pass on the way in and then made my way back to Mind Eraser...LOL just kidding, screw that. Started with a nice front row ride on Roar. This is like the Hershey Wildcat to me...everyone on here bitches about how rough it is but it's a fun and decently forceful woodie and not that rough at all. Sure, an RMC makeover would be awesome for the park, but Roar is a nice ride as it is.

Firebird is one of the two new to me coasters in the park and was my next stop, but was down temporarily so I made my way to the drop tower. Not a very tall one, but a nice forceful drop. Can't just walk by a walk on drop tower and not hop on.

Next up was the biggest gem at SFA, Wild One. How Six Flags manages to keep a 103 year old wooden coaster so smooth is one of the world's great mysteries. Lots of good airtime all over the layout and great laterals in the helix of death, all while maintaining a mainly perfectly smooth ride.

The other new to me credit, Rajun Cajun, was closed so kept heading back to Jokers Jynx. Another great ride, very whippy but smooth in the transitions. 

Headed back further (lol this park has the worst layout in the world) to Superman which was an absolute blast. For some reason they were loading every row which felt weird after not seeing that at all this year. Rode in back and it was absolutely flying through the darkness behind the park. Not the most inspiring layout ever made but still good Intamin fun and cool to see the old trains (coming from an SFNE homer).

The world's most ridiculously placed coaster was next, Batwing! The good thing is the dark foggy night masked the fact that the ride is plopped way out in a field. I want to love the ride, it has a much better layout than the Supermans and is very intense. But good lord those trains suck. They shuffle like typical Vekoma trains and the vests don't really hold you in so the buckle point pretty much does the Heimlich on you through the flying sections. A Batwing layout with B&M trains would be an awesome ride.

Started making my way back to the front, intending on getting my Firebird credit and heading out. Couldn't resist a 2nd ride on Wild One, but then made my way over. After making my way through the queue that is about 4000 feet too long, I walked right up to the front. 

Backstory: I don't like Rougarou. I'm one of the rare people that actually preferred Mantis. But most people seem to approve of that makeover. On the other hand, I've seen people who like Rougarou not like this one at all. Anyway, yeah...this thing is a pile of sh*t. Just bashes your head around from beginning to end. I came off with the worst headache a roller coaster I've ever gotten from a coaster. Hopefully the asteroid coming for the earth around Election Day lands directly on this thing.

If I didn't have a horrible headache I would've ridden Mind Eraser to remind myself what a coaster that only bashes your head into nice soft padded restraints feels like. But with a long ride home I decided I was hurting enough and called it a night. 

A sour ending, but overall I actually had a really great time at SFA. I know people drive right past this place all the time to head for much better places, but honestly it's a great place to break up a ride to BGW for a couple hours and really has a few decent coasters in its lineup. 

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Nice report!

Superman wasn't loading every row earlier this month, but I'm not surprised considering they were trying to pair groups up at Batwing when I was there.  Both those coasters were only running one train for me and I'm guessing it was the same for you?

I enjoyed Firebird in the back, but it was awful in the front.

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2 minutes ago, Canobie Coaster said:

Nice report!

Superman wasn't loading every row earlier this month, but I'm not surprised considering they were trying to pair groups up at Batwing when I was there.  Both those coasters were only running one train for me and I'm guessing it was the same for you?

I enjoyed Firebird in the back, but it was awful in the front.

Two trains on the woodies (which didn't need them) and one on the rest (Jokers Jynx had a 10 minute line, the rest were walk ons). No one grouping on any ride that I saw.

I guess thats good for Firebird, but I don't plan on ever riding it again. I'd rather marathon the SLC.

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I was stunned Roar had two trains going in my visit, but it was needed on Wild One.  I wish that coaster was still in Massachusetts as it would have been just 15 minutes from my parents' house.

That SLC is among the worst out there and I've gone a decade without riding it.  I have no intention of ever riding it again.  Firebird (in the back) is a ride I'll ride at least once every visit.  The only bad part in that row is the exit from the corkscrew, but I agree the park's other coasters are mostly better.

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I was glad to see that the park was doing the "bonus weekends in November before Holiday in the Park" bit that Great Adventure does.

Of course, I went today because I had to get in my last laps of Superman: Ride of Steel before in closes for the season. Cool overcast day with not much in the way of crowds (and no stunt show today).

And they also had the HITP decorations set up. I'll give it a try, I mean it's unfortunate they can't run S:ROS, WW:LOT, BW and JJ for HITHP.

And of course I had to give ME a proper salute 🤣

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I was at the park on that day, too. It was actually my first visit, and I couldn't have picked a better day to experience the desolation that is Six Flags America on a November Sunday. There's no way that they were making any money. In three hours, I got 20 rides on all of the coasters. The second train was already gone for most of the coasters.

I think it's funny that they still needed to sanitize and run the train empty after three cycles even if only a combined 10 people had ridden it.

Overall, I really enjoyed Wild One and the coasters in Gotham City. Batwing was my first flying coaster, so I probably liked that a little more than I should have.

It was weird seeing all of the Christmas decorations up but also seeing lots of Halloween stuff still lying around.

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I went to the park with some friends on a very quiet day back in September and we had a really great time. During many previous visits, I’ve encountered short lines for rides with long lines for food and drinks, but this time we were blessed with short waits for everything. We may have been the only ones truly celebrating the park’s beer festival, but they had a few stands with a wide selection, and we took advantage of the short waits! The park was running two trains on most coasters, and although short lines began to form later in the day, we managed several walk-ons.


I think SFA has a pretty good collection of rides. Once Harley Quinn opens, I really wouldn’t hesitate to say that. Unsurprisingly, Joker, Superman, and Batwing are at the top for me, but I think Roar, Wonder Woman, VooDoo Drop, and even Mindbender and Fireball round out the park very well. Ragin Cajun was the surprise hit. I think this was my first time on a spinning wild mouse, and man did that thing spin! This was our first ride of the day, meant to be something nice and relaxing, but we were so, so wrong. I also had my first spin on Fireball after the conversion from Apocalypse, and I really don’t think it is much better. There are only one or two head banging moments, but I think I hit my head harder than I did on the standup version.

 

I’m sure the COVID protocols have all been covered here already. As such, I won’t get into too many details, but I have to say the park did a phenomenal job. I’ll add that I am not an incessant COVID freak, but I get annoyed with people who can’t follow simple rules. I was very impressed. SFA successfully managed to have guests standing 6 feet apart, albeit in the short lines they had. While I do think people in Maryland are generally aware of social distancing, the park actually had security guards in some lines enforcing the rules...and people listened. The security guards might be a requirement from the state, but I haven’t seen that at any restaurants, stores, casinos, etc. 

 

Six Flags America was far better than Great Adventure with this stuff and light years ahead of Hersheypark. The only other park I visited this year was SDC, which falls dead last in implementing COVID safety measures. Thank you to the whole team at SFA for another great day!

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On Saturday the 12th of December, I had a plan to travel down to Kings Dominion to check out their Winterfest-lite event caused by COVID.  Normally, I'd skip right past Six Flags America (I hadn't been here since 2008, and that was only at the insistence of some friends), but figured this year I might as well stop in and make some use of my $60 SF Season Pass and also grab the Firebird credit and some rides on the as-I-remember-them-not-terrible woodies.  In retrospect that may have been a mistake.

I arrived right at park opening (2:00) to maybe a dozen other cars in the lot.  This place was dead, despite the beautiful weather (mid-60s and sunny).  The park was decorated for Holiday in the Park, but as it was daytime it lost something.

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I had intended to make my way to Firebird first to get that out of the way, but due to the park's confusion layout, wound up in the Mardi Gras section and jumped on Wild One.  Walked on to a solo-ride front row ride on the only train in site (none on the parking track).  Listen, I get it.  This coaster is a classic and should be preserved forever (though it is a little weird that they left the Skull Mountain standing).  Most of the ride was smooth enough.  But that helix...yes, strong laterals, but too much vibration for my almost-29-for-the-10th-time year old body.  One thumb down.  At least it's photogenic.

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Make the trek back across the park for a one-train wait for Roar, also on the only train in service - again no 2nd train seen anywhere.  This ride had two other people, in the row directly behind me...no COVID-prevention measures at this park, which honestly doesn't surprise me.  I actually think this coaster would be spectacular with some Millennium Flyers; like top-10-woodie good.  It has lots of good direction changes and airtime moments, but with the PTC invididual-lapbar trains, not so great.  One thumb sideways.  This is also quite photogenic.

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Okay, now it was time for my main reason for the trip here, to get my credit on Firebird, which coincidentally enough was my 100th steel coaster.  One-and-a-half-train wait for the front row, this ride also taken solo, with no 2nd train in sight.  There are no words for how horrible this ride is.  Continual head-boxing in the restraints - trying to keep it forward didn't work, trying to keep it pressed firmly against the headrest didn't work.  It honestly felt like the guide wheels had 2 inches of space between them and the track, the car was shuffling around so much.  I had never ridden this as a stand-up, but couldn't even imagine how bad that would have been with your head that much further off-axis from the track.  Go die in a fire.  Two thumbs way down.  That said, this ride is also quite photogenic, and the paint looks great.
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I ended my trip here.  I think the SLC might have been running but didn't want to waste any more time and it's horrible anyway.  Also skipped was Ragin' Cagun, because I don't do spinning coasters, and that exhausts the coaster list here during Holiday in the Park.  Made my way out 36 minutes after entry, and on the way to Kings Dominion I was.  Maybe I'll make another trip here next summer for Joker's Jinx or Superman, but probably not.

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I’m not trying to defend this park because it sucks, but it’s common for the colder-climate Six Flags parks to run one train on all / most Holiday in the Park coasters to get a jump start on maintenance since demand for rides is a bit lower.

New England runs one train on all of their HITP coasters and Great Adventure pulls a train off of all of their operating coasters too (though that leaves a few of them with two, but most run one).

I haven’t been on Firebird but after riding Patriot I don’t doubt your experience one bit. It’s a shame to hear that the ride still sucks.

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Nice report.

I rode Apocalypse in 2016 and thought it was terrible. When I went back to the park in 2019, I was hoping it had improved as Firebird. That was NOT the case. I actually think it's worse! It is easily my least favorite B&M.

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I did make it to this park for my first ever visit on our way back from BGW and KD in 2019.  I honestly can't really think of anything good to say about our visit to SFA, doesn't help that I was comparing our great visits to the other two parks, but specifically in reference to Firebird I'll just say holy crap I don't think I've ever had my head bang so much on a ride.  For what looks like a smaller slower coaster it was just down right painful.  I think it's great when parks try to bring new life into subpar rides and it improves them like Riddler at SFNE but in this instance it really seems like it was a complete waste of money.  

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The trick to enjoying a ride on firebird is:

1. Be tall enough that you can stick your head forward and avoid some headbanging. Yeah this one is just luck with your body shape.

2. Sit in the back row, inner two seats.

Riding with these strategies I actually quite enjoyed my ride, even though there is still unavoidable headbanging going through the corkscrew.

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As SFA was my home park for a while this year, I actually learned to ride Firebird and like it a lot. Didn't at first. Just rode it today, still decent. You can actually get a little hangtime in the loop in rows 4 and 5 -- not 6. Don't recall that on Bizarro. Ride left or center. There's still a bad headbang spot in the corkscrew, or if in the front, continuing some past it. Force your head hard against the seat for that and the hate goes away. I don't have the "be tall" option so can't vouch for it.

Good visit today, rode almost twice as much in half the time, on more coasters, as KD last Sunday. I combined the trip, still, this year has been hard on my car.

They're running every row on Roar now, maybe they took the queue barriers from Superman. Got to ride front, which is the most tolerable, and the rear car non-wheel seat which has been blocked this year.

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10 hours ago, CoasterGuy06 said:

SFA has already sent the second Roar/Wild One trains to PTC for their rebuild (they send one of each each year).

I thought Roar ran Millennium Flyers.  Then again I've not been to SFA since Joker's Jinx was brand new so...

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The first time we rode Roar we thought it was terrible, then a few years later we rode again after they re-tracked it and loved it but I'm not at all suprised to hear that it's back on it's way to being trash.

Wild One was always pure trash in a wheel seat but a lot of fun otherwise. Not sure if that's still the case or if it's just trash everywhere now...

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When I was there at the beginning of October, they were skipping rows on the coasters outside of Batwing, Firebird, and Mind Eraser.  I think they started loading every row sometime around mid-October from the reports I saw.

I thought Wild One was running good.  I love that coaster, partially since it was originally 15 minutes from my childhood home.  Roar has always been a coaster I needed to ride in the very front.  The airtime is best up there and it's the only seat that won't beat you to death.

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Most of my Roar rides have ranged from meh to actually headache inducing (particularly in the very back row), but my most recent 2 front row rides during a HITP evening were actually really good, with strong pacing, laterals, and some airtime, and decently smooth.

Wild One was also running great, I've almost never had a bad ride on it unless riding it in the back row of a car. That ride seems to always be flying no matter what time of year. While parts of it are a bit rough, IMO it's more of the charming classic variety than the uncomfortable and painful variety. I like this ride both in the very front and in 2nd to back.

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