Six Flags America (SFA) Discussion Thread

[ilrider]

I do hope they don’t just completely scrap the ride for good, simply as it’s B&M’s first coaster (not that anyone besides coaster enthusiasts would care about that at all), though if the do scrap it that won’t be the end of the world.

 

That was B&M's first coaster?? Well, that explains the

 

My how far they have come since then.

 

I am old enough (and lucky enough I guess) to have ridden it its first year at SFGAm, and it was not rough at all when it first opened. It was awful by the time it left in 2011.

[robbalvey]

I am old enough (and lucky enough I guess) to have ridden it its first year at SFGAm, and it was not rough at all when it first opened. It was awful by the time it left in 2011.

While I didn't ride it opening year I did ride it in June of 1992 and it was plenty rough by then. I sometimes wonder if we just "remember" things differently over the years. I mean, in 1990 when it opened, while I'm sure it may have been smoother than it is now, I highly doubt it was butter smooth and also probably MUCH smoother than other rides in the park like Shockwave. And then as the years go on, you ride other coasters that are even smoother and what once seemed pretty smooth to you years ago, now seems much rougher based on what you're used to.

[VACoasterdude]

Sorry if this was already posted. Received this in an email from SFA a few minutes ago.

 

Biggest Announcement, Biggest Sale of the Year on August 30

Mark your calendar -- Thursday, August​ 30 is going to be the biggest, most important day of your year! That is when Six Flags America is going to announce an incredible, UNBELIEVABLE new attraction for the 2019 season.

 

To celebrate, we'll also be hosting the Labor Day Flash Sale -- our biggest, best sale of the year on 2019 Season Passes, Memberships, and Season Dining Passes. We will never have a bigger sale on 2019 Passes!

[bert425]

^^Those aren't zombies, they're park goers who just got off of Mind Eraser and Roar.

 

[bert425]

I do hope they don’t just completely scrap the ride for good, simply as it’s B&M’s first coaster (not that anyone besides coaster enthusiasts would care about that at all), though if the do scrap it that won’t be the end of the world.

"Not that anyone besides coaster enthusiasts would care" pretty much sums up exactly why if it does get scrapped for good, no one will really miss it.

 

I mean, just being honest here, it was never a "great" ride to begin with. It's not like when Universal ripped out Dueling Dragons and you're all "WTF ARE YOU DOING THAT RIDE IS FANTASTIC!!!" this is a ride that most people will skip because, well... it's "Iron Wolf."

 

I sure won't miss it and I'm willing to bet most "coaster enthusiasts" wouldn't either.

 

I didn't even bother getting on it when we were there a couple of weeks ago. it's the one (operating) coaster at SFA that I didn't go on.

 

as I mentioned the other day: I had ridden Georgia Scorcher a week earlier and was super pleasantly surprised by how smooth that was -- so didn't feel the need to get on something I had heard was absolutely awful. It's going away, and I missed my one chance to ride it? I'm OK with that

[11slataus]

I could see Iron Apocalypse being relocated again. I don’t think the park would invest in floorless trains, but having the ride on hand could be too good a deal for 6F to just scrap. Maybe it will be the chain’s new “ride rotation” coaster and bounce around to one or two more parks over the next 10 years. Granted, it’s relatively-poor performance at SFA could be a deterrent, but maybe they’ll just live off the first few seasons every time they move it around.

[Canobie Coaster]

Can anyone who has been on both CGA's Vortex and Patriot compare if that ride has gotten any smoother? I remember it being about as rough as Apocalypse before it was converted.

[Highridin]

Not invest in floorless trains? What do you think they will do? The chance for a flat in that spot is slim in my opinion. I am on the floorless train, or different coaster all together.

 

If it is a flat, it will probably be huge, like a Discovery.

[CoasterAuditor]

^If I am being honest I would gladly accept a Giant Discovery at SFA. If they keep adding cool flats I'm all for SFA having a strong flat collection.

[boldikus]

Not invest in floorless trains? What do you think they will do? The chance for a flat in that spot is slim in my opinion. I am on the floorless train, or different coaster all together.

 

If it is a flat, it will probably be huge, like a Discovery.

 

Removing a coaster and replacing it with a smaller flat is not out of the realm of possibility. Even Kings Dominion did that recently with Shockwave/Delirium. With all the extra space they put a nice lawn around it. Maybe the same thing will happen here. Oh who am I kidding, its SFA, they ain't putting in any grass.

[Highridin]

Nor any extra trees...

[PKI Jizzman]

Can anyone who has been on both CGA's Vortex and Patriot compare if that ride has gotten any smoother? I remember it being about as rough as Apocalypse before it was converted.

 

Are you looking at that specific example because it's smaller than Mantis/Rougarou? Just had 3 days at Cedar Point and rode Rougarou a total of 0 times if that gives you any indication.

 

The CGA thread will give you mixed reviews - but a the majority tells me: If you liked the ride as a stand up, you'll like the floorless. If you didn't like the stand up, you won't like the floorless.

[Canobie Coaster]

^ Yeah I was thinking because it was similar in size and layout.

 

But Rougarou is another comparison. I actually enjoy Rougarou personally.

[Rayj]

Someone brought up the idea of SFA using apocalypse gift shop and queue line for a maze at fright fest and I can definitely see that happening.

 

I would be ok with the floorless conversion IF new minderaser trains were included. Otherwise, a raptor, 4D s&s, or giant frisbee would be fine.

[Superbatboy]

I personally hope they get something new, a 4D free spin or raptor would be perfect for the park.

[Rill'o'beily]

"That is when Six Flags America is going to announce an incredible, UNBELIEVABLE new attraction for the 2019 season."

Introducing: Twisted Apocalypse; ride the "all new" coaster now at Six Flags America... do you dare to sit down?

 

alternatively: a 2ft taller model of the tourbillon marketed as the biggest ride of it's kind in the world

[DoinItForTheFame]

...do you dare to sit down?

 

I haven't seen that quote since a gay bar in the early 90's.

 

Yet that would have probably still been a better experience than riding Apocalypse.

[robbalvey]

Enjoy everyone....

[rcjp]

^I did enjoy the POV much more than the actual coaster

[bert425]

that POV is fairly smooth. . I'm a little shocked

 

where would the fire effects have been (had they been working) ?

[StarWars]

Is there a possibility (with Roar being situated next to Apocalypse) that it's being removed as part of a RMC conversion of Roar? The west coast counterpart has already had one. I know people are always talking about the chances of a Roar conversion, but with Apocalypse leaving, I wonder if that is closer to being a reality. Also, as a side note, they mention a big attraction coming next year. Next year is the 20th anniversary of SFA's conversion from Adventure World.

[robbalvey]

Is there a possibility (with Roar being situated next to Apocalypse) that it's being removed as part of a RMC conversion of Roar? The west coast counterpart has already had one. I know people are always talking about the chances of a Roar conversion, but with Apocalypse leaving, I wonder if that is closer to being a reality. Also, as a side note, they mention a big attraction coming next year. Next year is the 20th anniversary of SFA's conversion from Adventure World.

There would be no reason to remove this ride for a Roar conversion.

[StarWars]

Is there a possibility (with Roar being situated next to Apocalypse) that it's being removed as part of a RMC conversion of Roar? The west coast counterpart has already had one. I know people are always talking about the chances of a Roar conversion, but with Apocalypse leaving, I wonder if that is closer to being a reality. Also, as a side note, they mention a big attraction coming next year. Next year is the 20th anniversary of SFA's conversion from Adventure World.

There would be no reason to remove this ride for a Roar conversion.

 

Do you think they'll ever get rid of the old Typhoon Sea Coaster structure (that Wild One goes through)? They used the skull portion of it for Apocalypse's theming, however on the inside of it (the part you see while riding Wild One) parts of the old TSC track remain. I would imagine it would probably require some sort of refurb for Wild One and would not be a worthwhile investment. I recall when TSC opened in Spring 1997, Wild One was shut down to make those alterations.

[robbalvey]

Is there a possibility (with Roar being situated next to Apocalypse) that it's being removed as part of a RMC conversion of Roar? The west coast counterpart has already had one. I know people are always talking about the chances of a Roar conversion, but with Apocalypse leaving, I wonder if that is closer to being a reality. Also, as a side note, they mention a big attraction coming next year. Next year is the 20th anniversary of SFA's conversion from Adventure World.

There would be no reason to remove this ride for a Roar conversion.

 

Do you think they'll ever get rid of the old Typhoon Sea Coaster structure (that Wild One goes through)? They used the skull portion of it for Apocalypse's theming, however on the inside of it (the part you see while riding Wild One) parts of the old TSC track remain. I would imagine it would probably require some sort of refurb for Wild One and would not be a worthwhile investment. I recall when TSC opened in Spring 1997, Wild One was shut down to make those alterations.

I have no idea.

[Geauga Dog]

Putting floorless trains probably wouldn't change the ride experience. Rougarou is still just as much a head banger in the second half as Mantis was.

 

Wasn't it just a few year's ago that Vertical Velocity was rumored to be leaving SFGAm and possibly relocate to SFA? That certainly would fit in Apocalypse's site.