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How about if instead of a path connecting Coyote Creek to Bat Wing they build an underground tunnel? Completely out of the sun. Call it The Bat Cave! Hey this is just a tunnel... NICE!

Given the reputation of this park's clientele, that sounds like a supremely bad idea.

 

Six Flags America was downright the cruisiest Six Flags I've ever visited.

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I had the pleasure of a short visit at SFA July 30th and I have to say the short time I was there I had a great time. The park was immaculately clean and the ride ops were efficient. This being a Sunday with great weather I was expecting long waits on some of the big rides. Superman and Joker's Jinx were virtual walk-ons. Roar was not operating (was not on my previous visit last year either). Batwing was also down; not sure why. Wonder Woman had a sizeable line but I skipped it since I have a Sky Screamer at my home park. Entrance theming for it was well done.

 

Food service was fast - used my dining pass and had my food in 5 minutes.

 

This is an underrated hidden gem of a park. I plan on spending a full day here next summer along with a visit to SFGadv.

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I love penguins blizzard river. However, it needs lots of work. The grounds around it need to be weeded, one of the penguins has been removed, all of the holes do not work at the ending water fall part, and a lot of the bumpers have fallen off the ride. Also, I feel like the station could use a face lift. It has shown its age for a while now.

 

It does get high ridership on hotter days which is great. I feel like the colors do not match the penguin theme. I would rather see dark bold colors like purple, black, and blue. The red and yellow to me do not match the penguin.

 

Let's keep in mind Six Flags New England has already removed there's to make way for Joker. If this was removed it would open up space for a decent sized coaster. However, this park has SO MUCH space available for rides.

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Honestly, I feel like if Six Flags just invested a good 3-4 years into this park it would be a very good park. So much potential. At least they're making yearly investments to one of their lower volume parks unlike Cedar Fair sometimes. Personally hoping for an S&S Free Spin for next year as I would love to have one of those closer to me than SFGAdv

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Honestly, I feel like if Six Flags just invested a good 3-4 years into this park it would be a very good park. So much potential. At least they're making yearly investments to one of their lower volume parks unlike Cedar Fair sometimes. Personally hoping for an S&S Free Spin for next year as I would love to have one of those closer to me than SFGAdv

 

SF on paper looks like it could be a top park. SFA has 8+M population within 50 miles at 14M within100miles, They have 300 acres available for development, the only park with more is GAdv. There must be some studies, surveys, research they have done that major investments won't produce the ROI they want compared to other parks that have been getting a lot lately like OT, FT, GAm that all have got Justice Leagues, 4D's, RMC''s in the time SFA has gotten a couple of flats and relocated coaster almost 5 years ago.

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^The metropolitan areas that surround SFA are areas of low income. SFA wasn't and still isn't generating the type of money that the other parks are.

 

The park that was there before SFA was not very large either which means they would have had a hard time expanding it so much. However it does seem like corporate is starting to invest a bit more into the park. It just has some catching up to do and I think Wonder Woman may have been the first step.

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Honestly, I feel like if Six Flags just invested a good 3-4 years into this park it would be a very good park. So much potential. At least they're making yearly investments to one of their lower volume parks unlike Cedar Fair sometimes. Personally hoping for an S&S Free Spin for next year as I would love to have one of those closer to me than SFGAdv

 

SF on paper looks like it could be a top park. SFA has 8+M population within 50 miles at 14M within100miles, They have 300 acres available for development, the only park with more is GAdv. There must be some studies, surveys, research they have done that major investments won't produce the ROI they want compared to other parks that have been getting a lot lately like OT, FT, GAm that all have got Justice Leagues, 4D's, RMC''s in the time SFA has gotten a couple of flats and relocated coaster almost 5 years ago.

 

I totally agree.

 

I've had some conversations with some of the management at the park over the years. What I get told a lot is Six Flags Inc. holds onto this park because the land under it is worth so much being right outside DC. They know their draw is the water park in the summer and Fright Fest for the fall. They do just enough to keep people coming back and know they do not need to put anything extravagant in. Most people that come to the park do not travel to other Six Flags. The people that go to this park still get so pumped for Superman and Roar when both coasters are considerably older. They have no idea there is Nitro right in Jersey or Sky Rush right in Hershey. Most of the people that come to this park come from the lower income parts of DC and southern MD. To the people that go here Wonder Woman is this awesome new ride. They do not know the tallest one in the world is right in Six Flags New England or even that many Six Flags have these.

 

Also, the management knows the perception the enthusiast have of this park overall. Yes, there are locals like myself who love this park because we can enjoy it for what it is. However, they know the enthusiast rarely come here because of the rumored violence and terrible operations. Why come to a park that has sub par operations with coasters that are old? They know the enthusiast are going to travel to Great Adventure and New England.

 

Do I agree with this through process? No, I do not. I think a Joker style coaster would be awesome for this park. Would I like to see a RMC redo to Roar? Of course! Would I like to finally see another custom coaster? Of course. I wish they would have resurrected Ultra Twister that laid in piles in the back of the park. I think anything that has lower capacity would be good for this park because it rarely gets super crowded.

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^The metropolitan areas that surround SFA are areas of low income. SFA wasn't and still isn't generating the type of money that the other parks are.

 

The parks 50 mile radius includes all of the Baltimore suburbs and south into northern Virginia/DC suburbs. There are plenty of middle and upper middle class people that live there. Those DC/North Virginia and Baltimore suburbs, are not low income. Then you can go out 75 miles or even a 100miles, which is where parks expect to be able to draw to 100 miles pretty comfortably.

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I hear you. Low income? You must not pay to stay. PG county is hella expensive to live here. One of the richest places to live in the state, Woodmore, is right around the corner from the park. Upper Marlboro and Bowie are right around park. One of the richest counties in the United States of America is Montgomery County. A 20 minute drive. Fairfax is 40 minutes away.

 

Low income the area is not.

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This park is in such a weird area where it could be easier to just go further, for example if you live in Manassas. But I do think they could get more draw from the locals. Maybe they think they'd get too much season's pass, repeat visit not spend much traffic.

 

But having just gone to SFNE I find the comparison apt:

 

Wild One > Thunderbolt

Roar < Wicked Cyclone

Rerides >> No Rerides

Near Tie except RMC bragging rights

 

Mind Eraser < Mind Eraser

Batwing = Joker 4D

Joker's Jinx > Goliath + Flashback

Tie

 

Ragin Cajun < Pandemonium

Nothing < Gotham City Gauntlet

but who cares

 

Superman < Superman

But the lines are usually shorter so while NE's holds bragging rights to be so good, you can easily scratch the same itch about as much, easier, if you live much closer

 

Apocalypse << Batman

 

So, they should floorless convert Apocalypse and the parks become much more comparable!

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I hear you. Low income? You must not pay to stay. PG county is hella expensive to live here. One of the richest places to live in the state, Woodmore, is right around the corner from the park. Upper Marlboro and Bowie are right around park. One of the richest counties in the United States of America is Montgomery County. A 20 minute drive. Fairfax is 40 minutes away.

 

Low income the area is not.

 

That is the thing. The people that live right near the park do not go. I have spoken with a few managers about this just last year. The people that come here are from DC - the lower income suburbs around it.

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I love that they're removing things to make room for new additions when the entire back half of the park is already flat, cleared land and essentially just a giant, soulless expansion pad.

 

Agreed. If Six Flags wanted to invest the money they could make Gotham City pretty awesome. The ROI though probably would not be worth it. I almost never hear of anyone in Virginia talking about Six Flags America. Kings Dominion definitely (it is vastly superior and is about to have an RMC) but never SFA.

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I hear you. Low income? You must not pay to stay. PG county is hella expensive to live here. One of the richest places to live in the state, Woodmore, is right around the corner from the park. Upper Marlboro and Bowie are right around park. One of the richest counties in the United States of America is Montgomery County. A 20 minute drive. Fairfax is 40 minutes away.

 

Low income the area is not.

 

That is the thing. The people that live right near the park do not go. I have spoken with a few managers about this just last year. The people that come here are from DC - the lower income suburbs around it.

 

This! I remember when SFoG had the "reputation." They did, at the time, draw a more questionable clientele. There were more fights, etc. During that period, people from the suburbs (less than an hour away) really didn't go to the park at all unless it was for a company buy out.

 

I've heard that the crowd at SFA is MUCH MUCH better than it used to be. If so, the word slowly gets out and the suburbanites start going back. It isn't a quick process, and with no new stand out attractions for several years, there's nothing to make them think about it.

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Maybe they want to keep it that way so the park retains it's charm.

 

And when I say charm I mean none at all.

 

 

It definitely could use a few updates in the "charm" department especially when its closest competition is KD and BGW.

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