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^^ They should have made Apocalypse a floorless when they moved it, though I still don't think it would be that great of a coaster, its got a really underwhelming course.

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SFA should have gotten a batman: the dark knight clone to put in skull mountain's spot. For 2016 they should replace the trains on apocalypse with floorless trains

 

Not happening ( I just can't see that) ... Personally Apocalypse is not that long of a ride that it affects my legs. Nor are the forces strong. Green Lantern, Riddler's Revenge, and Mantis however were long coasters that even have a mid course brake run. They are more of an endurance test coaster than anything else. So I could see Floorless trains make sense on those coasters. I think Apocalypse as a ride is fine the way it is... I would just like more comfortable ride experience (redesigned bicycle seat/ vest restraints). I secretly was hoping that Mantis was getting modified stand up restrains that would make it more comfortable (like a new generation bicycle seat and vest-like restraints) and get rid of headbanging (if any) that way SF would be more likely to get new trains since CF would have already paid for the cost of the R&D to procure and implement new restraints on a B&M stand up style train. If Apocalypse was a floorless, I think you would still get headbanging in the corkscrew if it had the traditional hard OTSR... you would still need the vest one. I think in most cases manufacturers are willing to come up with their new restraints and trains on their own to market, but sometimes I think they don't do the work unless a customer request and pays for the desired product (if its not already in their catalog).

 

What would be required in order to change out the existing OTSR to vest type? (Switch out the ratcheting system to hydraulic?)

 

I think Six Flags would relocate a floorless to SFA before putting new floorless trains.

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Going to the park for Fright Fest next month, I haven't been in about eight or nine years. I do remember they made the train ride a Fright Fest attraction back then, do they still do that? That was one my favorite things to do during FF. Also any advice on what would be the best day to go? My friend and I want to check out some mazes but we're mostly there for the night rides lol.

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For this season, Six Flags America has definitely improved itself. I've been there twice so far and I plan to return one more time for Frightfest ( So I can finally ride Ragin' Cajun). I bought the season pass at that park so I could use it when I went to Six Flags Great America last August, and I haven't been disappointed (yet).

 

As for the new ride (Bourbon Street Fireball) coming next season, I thought to myself Oh, it's another looping flat ride. Not the greatest ride, but it's better than nothing. Then when I read the specs about this ride and saw some pictures about it, that changed my mind real quick. SEVEN STORIES HIGH? The loopers I've often seen on fairgrounds are usually twenty-five to thirty feet high, but SEVEN STORIES HIGH? That is one big looper! Now that Six Flags America has announced their newest attraction that should generate some interest, now I hope they can get that ride up and running by opening day 2015. Then that'll should stop any talk about Six Flags America being the bastard stepson of the Six Flags family.

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I had no idea that those trains were in-fact B&M trains... anyone care to share the story of why the trains are Intamin (did it have to do with the fact that, perhaps, B&M was not making its own trains at the time of its first coaster). Are the other early gen B&M stand ups (Vortex CGA and Carowinds) also intamin trains. I wonder if CP will sell their Mantis trains?

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After going to fright fest today, I see why people don't like this park. It was very ghetto and crowded. There were at least 5 fights and I witnessed a person get knocked out. It was so bad that they had to shut Gotham city down.
That's the customers SFA attracts. Doesn't necessarily show how SFA is run, just the demographic it provides. However, something is being said about the park if these are the kind of people it gets in the gates most of the time. If they just gave better operations and rides it would most likely change.
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? I was there. Had a good time. I've seen fights at many parks over many years. No where else is different, especially during fright fest. I saw a drag out battle at BG last year in front of Alpengeist. By the way, there was no 'big fight' in the park. I saw or heard of no big fight. (Not that I was everywhere at once ) I also just checked the news to validate. The only problem was something in the parking lot with one person. Still, I wouldn't doubt if there was a fight or two. It was pretty rowdy last night. It probably will b better next weekend. This weekend was bring a friend for free. Usually more crowded on those weekends.

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At no point was Gotham city shut down.... I was there too and Gotham was pretty much where I stayed... I was never asked to leave! Flash Pass definitely came in handy finally. yeah there were a bunch of teens but in now way should that correlate to "ghetto" (I am interested in what you were implying there). Fights unfortunately happen I've seen it at others parks too not just SFA... KD's parking lot (i think someone got shot there) and another SF park.... it happens especially when there are tons of teens. It was the first night of FF and I can see why it drew such a huge crowd, particularly teens. The park was Packed! I do not think the park can legally block teens from coming to the park.

 

How are Fright Fest crowds on Fridays? I might hit the park up on the 5th since I got an extra day off of work. Also do you actually have to buy a "Scare Pass" for haunted houses?

 

After my experience yesterday you might want to aim for Friday or Sunday.

 

Oh and Batwing was running out of both stations for part of the day and it appears as though they somehow sped up the lift hill on superman (did anyone else catch that)?

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I caught it! Thought I was going crazy. One reason it was so packed was because it was bring a friend free. Following weekends shouldn't be as bad. I like what they did to curve line cutting too (put a guy where he could see 'most' everything). How much u wanna bet that one poster didn't even go. He may have been looking at social media where things were blown out of proportion.

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Where'd u see the 5 fights? According to their official press release and 4 others that went, there were '0'. I'm not including the one in the parking lot. I'm focusing my attention inside the park. Not saying that there were none, but I had a pretty good experience on Saturday. The stunt show was a lot better than last years too. I'll echo what vacoaster said, what are u referring to as 'ghetto' teens?

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^reports came from outside the park it seems... the police were on the regular roads in that video... not in they park or parking lot. The park already has police on duty. Really don't trust the media especially given that I was in the park ... who ever they interviewed stated "they closed the park early" ... that's interesting because I didn't I nor anyone else left the park early or were told it was closed. They blow things out of proportion occasionally.

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I was at the park on Saturday to process my new Six Flags Gold Pass, and even though the fight wouldn't have affected me at all, I'm still glad I wasn't there for it.

 

I don't know if anyone else was there Saturday, but it was an atrocious day for operations. I waited 20 minutes for the front seat of Superman and there were only three trains in front of me. Joker's Jinx broke down a few times and was running much slower than I remembered it (No wonder it valleyed). Roar, Apocalypse, and Wild One had major stacking as well. I was very surprised that Ragin' Cajun was the only coaster I rode with good operations.

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^yeah its terrible that he has to endure such extensive surgery due to the senseless actions of his peers.

 

Also I think it worth noting the following:

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The park is catching a lot of hell from this as if it was completely their fault. However, according to the new stories, the parents admit to being present to pick up their kids... insinuating that their kids were unsupervised in the park. There were probably many of kids who were also unsupervised. I know Disney does not allow unaccompanied minors under 14 to be admitted to or roam their parks. Do any other parks require this?

 

Further, as these parents stated, they were there to pick up their kids, which means they likely dropped them off in front of the park. I bet these parents did not pay the parking fee to enter the parking lot just to drop their kids of. SFA has a pick up/drop off circle just in front of the property (red circle). Just beyond that circle are the parks gates/fences (yellow). Cars cannot enter the left side (as that is the exit) and if they enter on the right that enters the gates to the parking toll booths. These eye witness accounts were coming from people who were picking up kids which leads me to believe that they were out along central avenue. A public road that runs along the private property. The white box is where I have seen people stating and waiting for their rides to pick them up when I leaving from my visits.

 

Its unfortunate that these alleged events took place alongside a public road in front of a theme park's gates. However, I think the media is clearly trying to lead people to believe it happened within the parks gates... especially the vine video of the girl laying in the grass... the grass in the white box. Looks like this is also going to fall within local police to also patrol the public roads during let outs (like they do for large events like concerts... theme park let outs should no different).

 

Also latest reports are that the trouble may have been pre-planned via twitter or social media.

www.inquisitr.com/1510889/six-flags-fight-a-real-life-purge-twitter-organized-brawl-fractures-teens-skull-video/

www.hngn.com/articles/44184/20140930/six-flags-fright-fest-massive-fight-involving-200-kids-planned.htm

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