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^Among people who have been on similar rides, trackless rides, or other great dark rides they feel it is quite underwhelming. With such amazing technology and subject matter many were expecting a lot more. Even a lot of the general public seems to be let down by the ride.

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At this point they might as well re-theme their Penguin ride to a SeaWorld saving animal themed ride.

 

The Blackfish fans would still find a way to complain. Once they identify a villain, it's almost impossible to change their minds, no matter how many facts to contrary are presented to them.

 

Then the media conglomerates who are generally ignorant of theme parks and over-hype any story related to the industry are all too happy to pick it up and run with it. Just look at the Texas Giant incident and how they handled that.

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Maybe an unpopular view here, but is it not possible that SeaWorld is simply on the wrong side of history?

 

This is just my opinion but honestly, no. I think people are trying to turn this into something it's not to make themselves feel like they're fighting for a cause that's much more important than it actually is. They're trying to draw parallels to things that are infinitely worse than this will ever be (like slavery).

 

Animal cruelty is horrible and should be and is treated very seriously. I just don't think what SeaWorld is doing could be considered "Animal Cruelty" in any way, shape or form. Based on that response that was posted a few pages back and a lot of other responses that have come out over the last few weeks it seems like they treat the animals very well. The fact that the pro-SeaWorld people are acknowledging criticism from anti-SeaWorld people while the Blackfish people have no interest in even hearing the other side of the story leads me to believe that the pro-SeaWorld people are much more credible.

 

I honestly feel like people are just starved for attention and want to feel like they're doing something important even though they're really not. If they wanted to make a difference there are a million better causes they could be supporting but they wouldn't get the same amount of attention since this is the issue CNN has decided to make a big deal about and report on.

 

I don't think its animal cruelty either. I don't think I would have the appreciation and respect for wild life that I do now if I hadn't spent so much of my youth at SeaWorld Ohio. I was simply trying to make a point about a film that couldn't have gotten the attention it did without at least some broader support of its message. And I agree with the point that there are a million other things, challenges faced by our own species, that need to be worried about before we worry about hurting a whale's feelings.

 

As far as documentaries go, it was absurdly one sided, partially because they couldn't get many people still associated with SeaWorld to talk, and partly because it didn't care about being one sided. There is no question in my mind that it was wrong to capture whales out of their pods and put them in tanks, and to moreover show a whale that had a history of maiming and killing trainers. Still, beyond that message, the film didn't even attempt to delve into SeaWorld's positive aspects, its merit in getting people to appreciate and more importantly respect nature, or the fact that we can think we know what a whale is thinking, but we can't. Nor did it ever delve into the failure of releasing Keiko, the successes of apparently "happier whales," etc.

 

It was provocative, and I don't see SeaWorld fading from the scene soon. I still think it will face challenges in the future when these views inevitably go further into the mainstream, just as the views of PETA, the ASPCA, the WWF, and other organizations that once weren't more than a bunch of raving hippies did.

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^ Huzzah! Quick, let's see how many news outlets are making it front page news!

 

:::5 minutes later:::

 

 

Well, at least the comments on the photo are all pro-Sea World. It shows that not all of the GP are so easily swayed by garbage documentaries.

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This is just outrageous, how could Sea World do this!!!!!

New Documentary Reveals SeaWorld Forced Orca Whales To Perform Nude WASHINGTON—Shedding new light on widespread abuses faced by orcas in captivity, a new documentary titled Under the Surface revealed that killer whales at SeaWorld and other marine theme parks are forced by trainers to perform—sometimes as often as seven times per day—completely in the nude. “These majestic creatures are required, time and again, to swim naked out in front of crowds of thousands, perform humiliating tricks entirely in the buff, and then expose their bare bodies to men, women, and children by repeatedly breaching their tanks,” animal rights activist Marissa Abelson told reporters at a screening of the film, adding that even when the whales are not performing they aren’t permitted to cover up and are left in solitary confinement, often forced to spend all night floating nude in undersized tanks. “And what’s most humiliating is how, during the shows, the trainers make them lie there unclothed and beg for food. It’s sick.” When reached for comment, a spokesman representing SeaWorld said the film completely misrepresents their orca programs, namely due to the fact that trainers work tirelessly to promote a positive body image for the whales and occasionally allow shyer orcas to perform in jeans.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/new-documentary-reveals-seaworld-forced-orca-whale,34449/

(I know this is an Onion article )

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CNN is posting about this again on Facebook and has really stirred up some anger in their fans. These animal rights activists (and by activists I mean people who sit at their computer and complain all day about things that don't matter without knowing all of the facts so they can feel important) are up in arms.

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I can't stand it when people respond to Blackfish by saying "How would you feel if you lived in a bathtub for the rest of your life?!"

 

I'm sorry, but when most people lay in a bathtub they take up most of the space. The tanks the whales are kept in are not small. The whales have plenty of room to swim, they aren't squished in and given no wiggle room like humans are when in a bathtub.

 

I can't stand to read the comments on the articles because the people are complete and utter morons.

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CNN is posting about this again on Facebook and has really stirred up some anger in their fans.

Yeah, they had to do something because once the Duck Dynasty story broke everyone stopped talking about Blackfish!

 

--Robb "Society is about as fickle as they come!" Alvey

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Actually, the story was broken yesterday by the Orlando Business Journal, but CNN makes money by making SeaWorld look corrupt and promoting their own film and what they've accomplished with it. They're still promoting the usual CNN crap about bands canceling performances at SeaWorld, but they've got nothing about the announcement today that Pat Benatar and Neil Giraldo have joined the lineup for Bands, Beer & BBQ at SeaWorld's Busch Gardens Tampa park. CNN really needs to examine themselves on their Reliable Sources show, where they rip out the anuses of their competitors for violating journalistic ethics.

 

I'm done with my rant.

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Kudos to Pat Benatar (although I have never heard of Neil Giraldo) for having the guts to stand up to this CNN nonsense and play at the festival!

 

My partner and I have been contemplating a winter getaway to either Orlando/Tampa, Key West or Las Vegas in February. If we choose Orlando, we certainly will not miss this event to show our support for the park...and it has nothing to do with the fact that I also love beer, BBQ and food. It's all about Shamu, baby!

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Kudos to Pat Benatar (although I have never heard of Neil Giraldo) for having the guts to stand up to this CNN nonsense and play at the festival!

 

 

Neil Giraldo is a guitarist and Pat Benatar's husband.

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Kudos to Pat Benatar (although I have never heard of Neil Giraldo) for having the guts to stand up to this CNN nonsense and play at the festival!

 

 

Neil Giraldo is a guitarist and Pat Benatar's husband.

 

to clarify -- he's HER guitarist (since way back in the 80's), and her Husband (for almost as long).

 

he co-wrote many of her big hits, and is the only band member still with her since she first broke big (for reasons that make sense -- marriage. . LOL).

 

he's also a pretty damn good guitarist.

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I haven't read anything about this on here and a quick search showed nothing, but has anyone heard about the Polar Plunge event that they're doing at Aquatica next month? Basically they are chilling the wave pool down to near freezing temperatures and having fundraisers run into the icy water to raise money for Special Olympics of Florida. I know TPR is all Gung-Ho about Coasting for Kids so I figured this would be a popular event for the site as well.

 

http://specialolympicsflorida.org/get-involved/fundraise/polar-plunge/

 

If anyone would like to donate, here is my page. It works just like the Coasting for Kids donation system does. Thanks!

 

https://www.firstgiving.com/fundraiser/trygvenelson/2014-florida-polar-plunge

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^It is nice to read that.

 

My partner wanted to watch this movie the other night (even though I said I had absolutely no interest in seeing it.) From what I saw before I went to sleep, they seemed to be blaming Sea World for the poor treatment of Killer Whales in the 70's and 80's. After reading about this movie and getting more detailed information here - I saw it for the very one-sided thing it was.

 

I fell asleep half way through it.

 

What I took from it....I would LOVE to be a Sea World Trainer!!! I'd do that in a second without hesitation.

 

D.

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^It is nice to read that.

 

My partner wanted to watch this movie the other night (even though I said I had absolutely no interest in seeing it.) From what I saw before I went to sleep, they seemed to be blaming Sea World for the poor treatment of Killer Whales in the 70's and 80's. After reading about this movie and getting more detailed information here - I saw it for the very one-sided thing it was.

 

I fell asleep half way through it.

 

What I took from it....I would LOVE to be a Sea World Trainer!!! I'd do that in a second without hesitation.

 

D.

 

 

I thought the same exact thing and then fell asleep about half way through the movie too! My partner watched it with me, but I think he fell asleep as well!

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While I personally feel MiceChat is the "Fox News" of theme park sites, and would normally never suggest anyone read their over-sensationalized articles filled with mis-information and made up facts, I do happen to know the author of this legit Blackfish article and feel it needs to be shared: http://micechat.com/53915-blackfish-exposed/

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^Interesting read. It's unfortunate that stories like this will get much less attention than the movie.

That's exactly why I felt it should be shared. It deserves attention, so I'll put my distaste for the content provider aside for a moment, and share it with our readers.

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