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I doubt they purposely didn't pay the bill. I'm guessing it is either a dispute over whether or not the vendor completed the work according to the terms of their deal or just a mistake someone made behind the scenes (there's usually lots of "red tape" when it comes to finances at theme parks).

 

Agreed, this is not unusual in construction. There is always a hold back on any construction project until everything is signed off. Probably a dispute about something and SeaWorld is waiting to get it resolved before paying. Once they pay the contractor completely they have no leverage to get a problem corrected.

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"Blackfish" aired on CNN tonight. I only caught the last 30 minutes but, wow, absolutely capitalizing on the trainer's death to push their anti-orcas in captivity agenda.

 

This is what they got across to me. It's wrong to pen orcas into tanks to perform in shows that make money for the company. It's not wrong to exploit the death of an employee of that company in one of those shows in order to push that message. They went so far as to call the Shamu shows "barbaric" but I wonder if any of them considered how "barbaric" it is to think that because someone died, you now have a right to scream your agenda that has absolutely zero - NOTHING - to do with the accident. You just think it's wrong that orcas are kept in those tanks, and whatever happens, mistake, accident, or otherwise is proof of your agenda. You're clearly willing to stand on the grave of that trainer to blast your message. Let's throw away human life because we'd like to tell you about how wrong it is to discount marine life.

 

I think any normal person knows what's really "barbaric" here, and it's not the Shamu show.

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"Blackfish" aired on CNN tonight. I only caught the last 30 minutes but, wow, absolutely capitalizing on the trainer's death to push their anti-orcas in captivity agenda.

 

This is what they got across to me. It's wrong to pen orcas into tanks to perform in shows that make money for the company. It's not wrong to exploit the death of an employee of that company in one of those shows in order to push that message. They went so far as to call the Shamu shows "barbaric" but I wonder if any of them considered how "barbaric" it is to think that because someone died, you now have a right to scream your agenda that has absolutely zero - NOTHING - to do with the accident. You just think it's wrong that orcas are kept in those tanks, and whatever happens, mistake, accident, or otherwise is proof of your agenda. You're clearly willing to stand on the grave of that trainer to blast your message. Let's throw away human life because we'd like to tell you about how wrong it is to discount marine life.

 

I think any normal person knows what's really "barbaric" here, and it's not the Shamu show.

I saw that and didn't make a final opinion because I didn't hear Seaworld's point of view of the story. A lot of the stuff they said seemed legit to various degrees but I saw that Seaworld had declined an interview for the show, and I wish they hadn't. It's a topic I don't know much about that I'd like to, but there's so many different viewpoints it's hard to get a clear message. I find it interesting, though. I'd definitely like to get more informed on it.

 

Though if it really is detrimental to the orcas and can psychologically scar them (strong arguments for both sides, not sure who to side with) I think the best solution would be to release all of Seaworld's orcas and use the existing structures for non-releasable ones in a learning exhibit like Cheetah Run. Again, not sure if it's the cause of these accidents, but if it is, I think this would be a fair solution. That's just me, though. Like I said, I'm not as well informed on the topic as I'd like to be.

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^ Why in the world would Sea World agree to be interviewed by someone obviously out to diminish their product and destroy their business?

 

The way I see it, Sea World already has their side of the story out there. The parks are still open. The shows are still on. The professionals stay professional.

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^ Why in the world would Sea World agree to be interviewed by someone obviously out to diminish their product and destroy their business?

 

The way I see it, Sea World already has their side of the story out there. The parks are still open. The shows are still on. The professionals stay professional.

I didn't say it would be a good move on their part, I said I would have liked to see it. You have a point about the fact that the parks are open and it speaks volumes. I'd just like to see a documentary/program put out by Seaworld before picking a side.

 

The thing the bothered me the most was how they took some of the whales away from their mothers too early. In addition to how it allegedly emotionally scarred the mothers and babies, I'd honestly find it more interesting to see a family of whales performing instead of a fabricated pod. I'm no marine biologist but if they could perform as a family I bet it would cut down on the fighting seen on the program and make it a bitter comfortable for the whales.

 

Not trying to start a fight and I admit I don't know as much about the topic as I'd like to, this is just assuming Blackfish was correct. I'm allegedly going to BGT next week, if it rains we're probably going to Seaworld instead. I'd like to see one of these shows and learn more about them. It's definitely a topic I'd like to be more informed on.

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I think my issue with all sorts of these 'type' of documentaries is why we feel one animal is above another?

 

Is it because they're cute? Or bigger? Or deemed smarter? Don't we learn new things about animals and species every day. Haven't they just decided that dolphins are no longer as smart as we originally thought?

 

Why aren't they advocating to release all of the sharks back into the wild? Why do we only care about certain animals? How many of the people involved in the documentary have pets at home? By now through all of the breeding and generations aren't some of these orcas 'domesticated' like pets? The whole thing to me just seems dumb. SeaWorld is obviously not harming these animals on purpose to make a profit, and they do a TON of good out in the real world.

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That movie had different opinions on me. I actually got into marine science because of seaworld. Without seaworld 80% of marine scientists wouldn't be in that field. They all dreamed of working with dolphins and whales. I'm guessing most of them were inspired by seaworld.

 

The beginning of the documentary (bias thing called) actually made me want to train killer whales more. (I wanted to do it since I was 3) Those trainers know the risks and would risk their lives for the whales. Seaworld didn't comment because they didn't want their own words to be twisted around and used against them so it's just easier to be quiet.

 

People don't realize the good that seaworld does and that's their own opinion but I've been and experienced the back stages of seaworld and got to tube feed a dolphin that couldn't swim. It's great all the conservation they do.

 

I might not be all for everything seaworld does, but without seaworld I would not be where I am today. So they can try to get all the money they want from that documentary but it's not going towards anything good like a ticket to seaworld does. ImageUploadedByTapatalk1382726653.186348.jpg.dcab368364dcd4b93f9e83352ea884f5.jpg

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^Thank you for sharing your thoughts!

 

I think that there are many on this site that agree with you as they are either in the biz, or as enthusiasts, they are already well aware of all the good things that Sea World does for marine life and conservation.

 

It's the GP you have to worry about...the one's that see a documentary or a piece on the news that is obviously biased and they base their own views on those reports alone and never take the time to research a bit further.

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I think my issue with all sorts of these 'type' of documentaries is why we feel one animal is above another?

 

Is it because they're cute? Or bigger? Or deemed smarter? Don't we learn new things about animals and species every day. Haven't they just decided that dolphins are no longer as smart as we originally thought?

 

Why aren't they advocating to release all of the sharks back into the wild? Why do we only care about certain animals? How many of the people involved in the documentary have pets at home? By now through all of the breeding and generations aren't some of these orcas 'domesticated' like pets? The whole thing to me just seems dumb. SeaWorld is obviously not harming these animals on purpose to make a profit, and they do a TON of good out in the real world.

 

I totally agree. I remember the whole Dolphin safe tuna thing. If the Dolphins taste good, throw them in the cans!

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It's the GP you have to worry about...the one's that see a documentary or a piece on the news that is obviously biased and they base their own views on those reports alone and never take the time to research a bit further.

The GP are not smart. They will only focus on this only for as long as until the next thing comes along they they are told to focus on. And when that happens, they will all be back at SeaWorld eating Shamu bars and watching the sea lion show.

 

I highly doubt this will any long term (or even short term) effects on SeaWorld or any other marine life park.

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^Exactly. The whole KONY thing comes to mind. As soon as the news finds their next disaster, tragedy, or controversy, no one is going to care about this movie except for animal rights activists.

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  • 2 weeks later...

Another Aquatica teaser has been released:

 

Orlando, Fla. (November 11, 2013) - Get ready to brave a watery free-fall at Aquatica Orlando’s all-new water thrill slide coming in 2014 – Ihu’s Breakaway Falls. The drop slide will be the tallest, steepest and only multi-slide ride of its kind in Orlando.

 

The slide is named after Ihu, Aquatica Orlando’s colorful gecko, who searches for the biggest thrills, steepest hills and the coolest spills in the waterpark.

 

Check out the latest video designers released revealing more clues about Ihu’s Breakaway Falls:

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So from the looks of things I'm guessing this is going to be a fairly large body slide structure maybe with the Aqua Loop trap door thingys? I really liked Aquatica so another slide is a welcome addition.

 

Does anyone know how tall Summit Plummit is? I'm kind of surprised it has taken a water park in Orlando this long to go after the "tallest slide" title.

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So from the looks of things I'm guessing this is going to be a fairly large body slide structure maybe with the Aqua Loop trap door thingys? I really liked Aquatica so another slide is a welcome addition.

 

Does anyone know how tall Summit Plummit is? I'm kind of surprised it has taken a water park in Orlando this long to go after the "tallest slide" title.

 

I don't think it's taller than Summit Plummit, as it says tallest slide of it's "kind" in Orlando. Based on the teasers it isn't going to be a tall body slide.

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Does anyone know how tall Summit Plummit is? I'm kind of surprised it has taken a water park in Orlando this long to go after the "tallest slide" title.

Summit Plummet is about 120 feet tall, the tallest in the United States until Verruckt opens.

 

To get the title of "tallest of its kind in Orlando" Aquatica's new slide will have to be taller than Der Stuka at Wet 'n Wild, which is six stories tall.

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It could be something along the lines of Vanish Point at Water Country USA in Williamsburg--perhaps bigger? (Just a thought.)

 

 

The "helix" slides have trapdoor drops.

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^You mean the teasers that show 3 people laying on their backs on a waterslide that suddenly "drop" out of the screen? Yeah there's no way this will be a body slide......

 

Oops, I just meant straight body slide, without the the drop capsule. A drop capsule taller than Summit Plummit would be insane. Sorry about that.

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  • 3 weeks later...

Bare Naked Ladies backing out of Bands, Brew and BBQ event after watching Blackfish.

 

I never realized that this band was even remotely popular anymore. I would have thought that they would have been lucky to have sold 500 tickets to our county fair, let alone play a gig at Sea World!

 

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^ Dumb. It really sucks how much unfair bad press SeaWorld has gotten out of this.

 

I think someone needs to make a documentary on how documentaries with agendas of garnering praise, awards, and notoriety from the filmmaker community hidden behind subject matter that the masses doesn't understand and therefore causes them to go on a witch hunt against one company, is actually VERY harmful for our society, economics, and overall, morale.

 

I refuse to believe that the filmmakers ever felt sorry for the animals, and have only created the film to highlight themselves as controversial filmmakers to draw attention to themselves so they'll get a bigger paycheck on their next project.

 

We saw the same thing against McDonalds when "Super Size Me" came out, remember? Even though it was proven that other fast food chains had even less heathier food on their menus, McDonalds got all the crap flung at them because it was "in the movie" and the public was too stupid to figure it out on their own.

 

It's disgusting.

 

--Robb

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^ Dumb. It really sucks how much unfair bad press SeaWorld has gotten out of this.

 

I think someone needs to make a documentary on how documentaries with agendas of garnering praise, awards, and notoriety from the filmmaker community hidden behind subject matter that the masses doesn't understand and therefore causes them to go on a witch hunt against one company, is actually VERY harmful for our society, economics, and overall, morale.

 

I refuse to believe that the filmmakers ever felt sorry for the animals, and have only created the film to highlight themselves as controversial filmmakers to draw attention to themselves so they'll get a bigger paycheck on their next project.

 

We saw the same thing against McDonalds when "Super Size Me" came out, remember? Even though it was proven that other fast food chains had even less heathier food on their menus, McDonalds got all the crap flung at them because it was "in the movie" and the public was too stupid to figure it out on their own.

 

It's disgusting.

 

--Robb

 

(Apologies if this video is a little strange...)

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