Tmcdllr Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 This is just completely sad, in so many ways. I am heartbroken, I really liked this ride a lot. I'm angry too. CF what the fuck are you doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strwrse1 Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 I feel sorry for CGA but happy for my home park. I may finally get to ride one of these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PayneTrain Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 Am I out of line saying that Dorney and Valleyfair are simply "too good" to get saddled with a boomerang as an addition? MiAd seems likely for me because they are a relatively small park, and a small addition would suit them well. KD would put a boomerang in vA, when you have one in SFA and Carowinds. CW isn't getting it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tatertot3710 Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 I feel sorry for CGA but happy for my home park. I may finally get to ride one of these. I was excited about Demon Drop coming, but it turned out I was only wanting to TRY that type of ride rather than seeing it as a good addition in the park. After a few rides, I lost interest. I'm afraid that's how Invertigo would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Knotts Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 However this turns out, there are still 2 wonderful parks in the area to be grateful for. I thought no one liked CGA anyway? Other than nostalgia reasons (which I understand), would this really be such a great loss? One terrific Invert and little to anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robman Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 I always liked going to CGA more because it is closer too where I live and sometimes its a lot harder for me to get out to SFDK so thats why I always going to CGA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABW Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 However this turns out, there are still 2 wonderful parks in the area to be grateful for. I thought no one liked CGA anyway? Other than nostalgia reasons (which I understand), would this really be such a great loss? One terrific Invert and little to anything else. Yeah really I mean who likes this park? It's just old and pointless amusement park that no one likes. (end sarcasm) This park is so overlooked at that it's sort of sad. Yeah, it's not your typical Cedar Fair park, but it's still a nice park. I don't understand it when people say "CGA lost it's charm" because to me it still does. It's really sort of sad. On the other hand, the tallest roller coaster at CGA is now a whopping 102 feet. *sigh* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Knotts Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 Pointless and old? Those are some of the exact words people were using towards this park, until the writing began appearing on the wall. It's always sad when you watch a park begin to fold, but this is the same park that a year ago people were bashing up and down the block. I really hope the park survives and thrives again one day. But it's not like people have really appreciated it in a long, long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalCoasters Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 Can we PLEASE stop with the CGA bashing! I understand people are upset that Invertigo is being removed, but just whinning about it isn't going to fix ANYTHING! Honestly, if they, THEORETICALLY were to build a new coaster on this spot, as stated before, there are two very good reasons. #1: Invertigo has had a TON of bad publicity, getting stuck in 2002, and then again in 2007 (which made the NATIONAL news). Removing a bad publicity ride is a good move. #2: This plot of land is away from the whiny neighbors who think GCA is a menace (YOUR BUSINESS IS RIGHT NEXT TO AN AMUSEMENT PARK! What else would you expect to hear? Hmm?) and they would have no complaints if, or when they open a new coaster. Just my view of things... -SoCal "Invertigo is leaving, and I'm not going to keep whinning" Coasters (And yes, I have been on it. It was a smooth Vekoma) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolliger&Mabillard Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 Meh, I don't think this park's getting a coaster...EVERY OTHER ex-Paramount park has gotten at least one new coaster out of Cedar Fair.Kings Dominion and Carowinds got two, count 'em two coasters apiece since Cedar Fair bought them... and poor little Great America. an Ice Show...and "All Wheels Extreme". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Knotts Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 http://www.latimes.com/travel/deals/themeparks/la-trb-great-america-coaster-01201128,1,2322443.story "Great America is preparing to submit a proposal to city planners in the next few months for a 2012 attraction on the Invertigo site, park officials said". Just thought I'd throw that out there. Sorry if it's already been posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatamerica1990sfan Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 ^"In 2002, the Greased Lightning looping shuttle coaster was removed from Great America and relocated to Six Flags Discovery Kingdom in Vallejo in Northern Caifornia." Quote from that article. They should have added temporarly & then they should have wrote Greased Lightning parts were sent to Six Flags Kentucky Kingdom to keep another shuttle loop coaster of it's same kind there running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDCOASTERFAN Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 CGA's situation isn't how GL's situation was. CGA actually has competion from other parks that aren't owned by the same company. I think that there's still much hope for CGA and the very fate of it. Who says it has to turn out the way Geauga Lake did? That & CGA doesn't have the bad rep for customer service & overall operations that GL had....had GL not been in the hands of SFI/Premier parks before CF had gotten hold if it GL would still be around but it was six flags that truely spelled the end of that park. On the flip side of that coin is someone mentioning the size of the overall market as being a factor in keeping it open,don't forget SFAW was in Houston,which had a fairly large population base & yet SFI shut it down anyway hoping to get quick & cheap rides for their other parks(only SFOT & La ronde reaped the meager rewards since the remaining rides were too damaged to install & operate) not to mention a quick buck on the land & yet,like GL the land still sits undeveloped so I wouldn't exactly say that CGA's 100% in the clear just yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Knotts Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 Can we PLEASE stop with the CGA bashing! I understand people are upset that Invertigo is being removed, but just whinning about it isn't going to fix ANYTHING! Honestly, if they, THEORETICALLY were to build a new coaster on this spot, as stated before, there are two very good reasons. #1: Invertigo has had a TON of bad publicity, getting stuck in 2002, and then again in 2007 (which made the NATIONAL news). Removing a bad publicity ride is a good move. #2: This plot of land is away from the whiny neighbors who think GCA is a menace (YOUR BUSINESS IS RIGHT NEXT TO AN AMUSEMENT PARK! What else would you expect to hear? Hmm?) and they would have no complaints if, or when they open a new coaster. Just my view of things... -SoCal "Invertigo is leaving, and I'm not going to keep whinning" Coasters (And yes, I have been on it. It was a smooth Vekoma) I hope you don't think I am bashing the park or whining as you call it, because nothing could be further from the truth. I was just pointing out the irony that people suddenly shift from bashing a park to being all "sad" when the rumors about it closing start. To me it makes perfect sense to remove this ride at this point. It's caused them nothing but headaches and they probably don't have the funds to maintain it any longer. Also with rumors of a new ride going into SFDK next year, the park has to find a way to add a new ride. The only option at this point is to remove something, and Invertigo was the no -brainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arson Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 CGA's situation isn't how GL's situation was. CGA actually has competion from other parks that aren't owned by the same company. I think that there's still much hope for CGA and the very fate of it. Who says it has to turn out the way Geauga Lake did? That & CGA doesn't have the bad rep for customer service & overall operations that GL had....had GL not been in the hands of SFI/Premier parks before CF had gotten hold if it GL would still be around but it was six flags that truely spelled the end of that park. Yeah, but CGA's land isn't owned by Cedar Fair, and it's in a place that's more desirable for the stadium. Geauga Lake's land... well, like everything in Cleveland, isn't really desired at all. The deciding factor is always profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robman Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 ^I thought the only land that Santa Clara owned was the parking lot and the land the park sits on belongs to Cedar Fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGA_88 Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 Nope, the entire thing is owned by the city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfmman2000 Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 (edited) The sick thing about CGA is that unlike GL, where the majority of people outside of CF weren't anticipating the closure until the summer of 2007, most can already smell this stink like it's a burning bag of crap. I think Cedar Fair wants to keep the park and compete in the Bay Area, but by taking out Stealth and Invertigo (2 shabby rollercoasters, that are roller coasters nonetheless), they are calling Santa Clara County's bluff in a way. If this is true, it makes sense that they chose to remove Invertigo. Think about it: they wanted to take out a ride that would be marketable at another park. None of their other big roller coasters fit that criteria. Flight Deck was custom-built for the park's landscape. Demon is just too old. And, I have a feeling CF knows that Vortex and Grizzly are not exactly award-winning rides, and wouldn't do well marketed as a "new" ride at a different park. Invertigo is the only modern roller coaster they have that would look good at another park. Edited January 29, 2011 by sfmman2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tmcdllr Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 Despite all this negativity on here I seem to remember CF reporting that attendance was up at this park from last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire2box Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 ^"In 2002, the Greased Lightning looping shuttle coaster was removed from Great America and relocated to Six Flags Discovery Kingdom in Vallejo in Northern Caifornia." Quote from that article. They should have added temporarly & then they should have wrote Greased Lightning parts were sent to Six Flags Kentucky Kingdom to keep another shuttle loop coaster of it's same kind there running. I would have loved Greased Lighting going to "SFDK/SFMM". I always loved greased lighting because the line was always small thanks to the the ride being well hidden from the GP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liftsifter Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 I think the Paramount days are what damaged the park.. They weren't smart with removals/ additions. No quality additions = No good park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Angry Darren Mullins Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 I haven't had time to go through all of the posts about Invertigo, but here are my reasons for thinking that the ride is going to Valleyfair. I do not think it will go to these parks: Kings Island-they already have one Kings Dominion-there used to be one just up the road Carowinds-they have a boomerang World's of Fun-they have a boomerang Knott's Berry Farm-they have a boomerang Dorney-unlikely as they have two inverted coasters already and nearby Hersheypark has a boomerang Michigan's Adventure-Not likely after getting Thunderhawk so recently. Canada's Wonderland-they have a boomerang Cedar Point-Not likely as they already have two inverted coasters and Kings Island has an Invertigo copy Gilroy Gardens (does Cedar Fair manage this?)-Too close to Great America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry_Gumball Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 ^Cedar Fair I believe does manage Gilroy Gardens. No chance of Invertigo heading there anyway. The park was not built for large attractions and something like that would strip the charm out of that park. About Hershey having a boomerang, that shouldn't stop an Invertigo from coming into a neighboring park. CGA had Invertigo while SFDK has a Boomerang. Something I found interesting but leaves me concerned now from that LA Times artical: While Great America has released no details on the 2012 project, officials confirmed the new attraction will NOT be the oft-delayed wooden roller coaster proposed in 2008 (which remains in limbo due to noise concerns). Not sure where they're getting their info from unless they're just blowing stuff out their hiney. But if this is the case, I'm now really curious as to what we'll be seeing. Could be something completely amazing? Or could be part of the Sky Screamer bandwagon (which I'm hoping is not the case. As much as I'd like to ride one, I don't want that to be Invertigo's replacement). Dreaming, a nice compact Intamin coaster (like a megalite or a vertical lift Maverick-style coaster could potentially work...A B&M flyer to replace our long-lost Stealth would be nice but CGA already has 2 B&M's (though that's never stopped SFMM from having 3 B&M's). What I think would be fun but really don't want at the moment (and not in that spot): lower capacity rides like an El Loco, Zac Spin, or some random flat ride. The space is quite large enough to pack something in there...I hope they make the best use out of that space and not waste it on something that takes 1/3 of that plot. Again, we'll have to wait and see. Name-wise for the new attraction: $10 says that it will be " Hawk>" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Knotts Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 Nothing short of a compact coaster will be accepted after the removal of three in a row. I'm sure it isn't lost on the park how rough removing three coasters can do for a park's image. So I'd be really surprised if they don't add one in 2012 (that is, if they have any intention of actually investing any further in this park). If we're talking compact, a Zacspin would work well there. Capacity issues aside, it's unique enough to attract attention. Otherwise, that area would be a great place for a station and queue, provided they can get clearance to build up and over other attractions. But I guess I'm getting way ahead of myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatamerica1990sfan Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 Please I am begging don't be yet another spinny flat ride. CGA has way too many flats as it is & CGA doesn't need anymore flats! I am picturing in my mind how big Invertigo's space is. It's kind of small actually. So I guess we can't expect to see something too big. Is there even enough room for a coaster to go where Invertigo was? & Would a Maverick clone fit in that space? Or a V2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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