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On 10/14/2020 at 10:53 AM, KIEnthusiast said:

Ok. Idk, I still think the story is a little fishy, but who knows?

We would have known because CGA would still have to have filed permits with the FAA for permission to build the ride.

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If people would say , “The capital originally intended for CGA was repurposed for KI instead”, that makes more sense. But saying a coaster went to park A instead of park B... there’s absolutely no way

So as an update to this...it turns out it's true. In the new book "Kings Island A Ride Through Time"  there are multiple quotes from several CF execs that confirm it. CGA was going to get a B&M hy

Oh yeah, no complaints alright. I just hope all this virus crap doesn't affect our 2021.

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I think they only presented a future plan for cga as a plan to show Santa Clara county officials. It was harder to build before because Cedar Fair didn't own the land under that park. Now that they do own it, if they were to continue with the proposed coaster, it would be a lot easier to get past city officials as long as they're in guidance with sound checking like they did with Gold Striker. 

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I'm surprised nobody has posted in here about the park's recently-announced opening day - May 22!

Are they being hopeful about California's regulations? I wonder why they announced a date for CGA but not Knott's. Any thoughts?

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They also have not yet announced a date for Cedar Point, the flagship of the chain.

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On 1/29/2021 at 10:11 AM, thrillseeker4552 said:

I wonder why they announced a date for CGA but not Knott's. Any thoughts?

CGA is a seasonal park and would normally be closed right now anyway. Knott's, on the other hand, is open year round and are just waiting for Gov. ScienceTM to decide that they can reopen. They most likely have the rides mothballed and can be ready to reopen within a few weeks of getting the okay.

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Same here. Even with the recent stay-at-home order lifted, nearly every county in the state is a long ways away from graduating from the purple tier.

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Not a chance in hell any large county in CA will make it to the yellow tier by May, but it’s also not feasible to have no idea when you can open and expect to open in a timely manner: hiring, training, inventory, etc. all take time. 

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On 10/14/2020 at 10:28 AM, KIEnthusiast said:

That sounds like something someone made up for sh*its and giggles. Has there ever been anything like that happening before?

There are only a few (heavily rumored) examples I can think of off the top of my head, such as:

  • Two Vekoma Flying Dutchmen being intended for Kings Island and Kings Dominion, only for Paramount to dump them onto Six Flags after the issues with Stealth
  • DCA's Rockin' Rollercoaster being canceled last minute and picked up by Six Flags Holland

The only example I can think of that can be verified is the last minute switch of Chang being moved to Six Flags Great Adventure instead of Six Flags Great America... of course, being a relocation, this is kind of a different situation.

There are definitely other coasters that were rumored to be designed for a different park than they ended up in, but I can't recall any of them at the moment.

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On 2/10/2021 at 8:08 PM, DBru said:

There are only a few (heavily rumored) examples I can think of off the top of my head, such as:

  • Two Vekoma Flying Dutchmen being intended for Kings Island and Kings Dominion, only for Paramount to dump them onto Six Flags after the issues with Stealth
  • DCA's Rockin' Rollercoaster being canceled last minute and picked up by Six Flags Holland

The only example I can think of that can be verified is the last minute switch of Chang being moved to Six Flags Great Adventure instead of Six Flags Great America... of course, being a relocation, this is kind of a different situation.

There are definitely other coasters that were rumored to be designed for a different park than they ended up in, but I can't recall any of them at the moment.

But just because something is rumored does not make it real.

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Looks nice!

This reminds me that many parks that never opened last year and are still closed could've taken this time to repaint some coasters. I know Carowinds did with Intimidator. I really wish Knott's repainted Xcelerator or SFMM repainted Tatsu during the last year. It would've been the perfect time with no people in the park to deal with. But I'm sure they weren't anticipating being closed for a year, and of course $$$ as well during an already difficult time.

Good for CGA!

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20 hours ago, thrillseeker4552 said:

I really wish Knott's repainted Xcelerator...

Sadly, If Knott's didn't use Xcelerator's extended downtime a few years ago waiting on the catch car repairs to re-paint the ride I doubt that they would've even considered a year long closure to re-paint with almost zero revenue coming in.  

But agreed, hopefully there will be a few park beautification projects done that will surprise a lot of guests when gates re-open at parks throughout the country (and Canada).

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I love how Cedar Fair has been incorporating story lines with their new attractions. The "radio station" playing "local commercials" sounds totally brilliant and so much fun.

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On 10/14/2020 at 11:58 AM, RAWKIN_coaster38 said:

Speaking of CGA hyper, I heard a weird rumor yesterday. Take it with a grain of salt. My coworker's second job is at KI and he said he heard Orion was supposed to be CGA's hyper, but it ended up as KI's giga. According to my coworker, KI was originally supposed to get something much taller and more extreme.

Honestly, I could easily see Orion fitting perfectly at CGA but it's underwhelming because it's at KI and we all know they *could* have gone more hardcore with it.

So as an update to this...it turns out it's true. In the new book "Kings Island A Ride Through Time"  there are multiple quotes from several CF execs that confirm it. CGA was going to get a B&M hyper in 2020 with the name "Megabyte." Eventually the projected costs became greater than what they wanted to spend at CGA so they decided to build the new B&M at KI instead.  Based on the interviews it seems corporate essentially called up KI and said "we're sending you a B&M in 2020. Let's figure out what we want it to be." That project eventually became the giga coaster Orion.

 

I think the most interesting part is the CGA ride was going to have the same staggered seating that Behemoth, Diamondback, and Intimidator have instead of the inline seating the most recent B&M hypers have returned to having.

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^Very interesting. I may have to buy that book just to check out that information! lol

It makes sense though. Hopefully one day CGA will get their new B&M Hyper - even if it's a "mini" model that's 200 feet or less. Or Knott's. Or literally anywhere out West...

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1 hour ago, thrillseeker4552 said:

^Very interesting. I may have to buy that book just to check out that information! lol

It makes sense though. Hopefully one day CGA will get their new B&M Hyper - even if it's a "mini" model that's 200 feet or less. Or Knott's. Or literally anywhere out West...

I read the book.

and recommend it

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Damn....how many times is Great America going to be denied a hyper? If they don't want to spend that much...the hyper idea may be done.

Gerstlauer Infinity instead?

 

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