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P. 476: Cedar Fair sells park land, CGA to close within the next 11 years

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Imo CF wouldn't have even mentioned the "RENEWED" relationship thing if it didn't apply to a company that for years the expert enthusiasts have been proclaiming CF would never work with again and that's Intamin.

 

Anyways I'll be one happy camper if Knotts is due for the Intamin over the RMC Raptor which I think is a cool concept just too low capacity for a park like Knotts let CGA have it

 

I don't really disagree with this, but it's probably a good idea to keep in mind that earnings calls are not for fans or customers of Cedar Fair parks, they're for investors. If trying to read between the lines it's a good idea not to think like a roller coaster enthusiast, but like the head of a mutual fund...

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^ As an investor returning to a tried and true profitable relationship with Intamin would impress me more than any other maker. Gerstlauer wouldn't impress me because there isn't approved measure of success with it as far as CF goes.

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Lots of tree and greenery clearing at the SR1 site:

 

 

Seems they're wasting no time clearing this area out...and the area in front of First Aid and the Hometown games feels very open now that most of the trees are gone.

 

Yeah, things are in full swing in the construction zone! I was at the park yesterday for the kick off of their Taste of Orleans food festival. I was surprised how big the area is.

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Is everyone else as convinced as I am that this WILL be the first ever RMC raptor?

 

I think that's the general consensus at this point. It seems like most people believe that CGA is getting the RMC Raptor and Knott's is getting a Gerstlauer Infinity coaster or some kind on compact Intamin (a blitz like Maverick or a vertical lift like Fahrenheit). All I know is that August 16 can't get here quick enough!

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Is everyone else as convinced as I am that this WILL be the first ever RMC raptor?

 

I think that's the general consensus at this point. It seems like most people believe that CGA is getting the RMC Raptor and Knott's is getting a Gerstlauer Infinity coaster or some kind on compact Intamin (a blitz like Maverick or a vertical lift like Fahrenheit). All I know is that August 16 can't get here quick enough!

 

I'm kinda hoping it'll be the other way around. Raptor/TRex at KBF and 110' Intamin (Blitz/Mega Lite) at CGA. But that's just my wishful thinking for sure!

 

I'll be ecstatic either way, especially if either park get an Intamin or RMC!

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^ Knott's might be too busy a park for another low capacity ride like the Raptor. Though personally either way works for me because I take turns visiting both parks every couple years. Though if it does turn out to be a Fahrenheit type of Intamin I hope it's a giga. That would awesome.

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^ Knott's might be too busy a park for another low capacity ride like the Raptor. Though personally either way works for me because I take turns visiting both parks every couple years. Though if it does turn out to be a Fahrenheit type of Intamin I hope it's a giga. That would awesome.

 

Could you show me where RMC has ever said what the capacity would be on these coasters? I've seen this argument posted over and over again, but do we actually know the numbers here? I doubt it's that hard to break Xcelerator's numbers

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The Raptor has in-line seating. The tester had four cars with one seat per car. The renderings show four cars with two seats per car. That's a low capacity ride.

 

So speculation without knowing anything about how a Raptor/TRex might possibly be operated (ie dual loading platform, many block brakes, etc.)? The capacity excuse is pretty flawed without any real information. It's hilarious that people are worried about Raptor/Trex capacity when the "more possible" rumor is a Euro-Fighter.

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^ Knott's might be too busy a park for another low capacity ride like the Raptor.

 

Knott's has...

 

- a Wild Mouse with 4 passenger cars

- a shuttle loop

- a Zamperla motorbike coaster with small 16 passenger trains

- a spinning coaster with small 16 passenger trains

- an Intamin accelerator coaster with 20 passenger trains that (up until recently) pretty much only ever ran 1 train

- up until recently, a Vekoma Boomerang

 

I see no indication that this park is in any way hesitant to buy low capacity coasters.

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The Raptor has in-line seating. The tester had four cars with one seat per car. The renderings show four cars with two seats per car. That's a low capacity ride.

 

So speculation without knowing anything about how a Raptor/TRex might possibly be operated (ie dual loading platform, many block brakes, etc.)? The capacity excuse is pretty flawed without any real information. It's hilarious that people are worried about Raptor/Trex capacity when the "more possible" rumor is a Euro-Fighter.

 

Firstly, the renderings don't show any block brakes. Secondly, the rumor is an Infinity not Euro-fighter. The Infinity seats 16-24.

 

^ Knott's might be too busy a park for another low capacity ride like the Raptor.

 

Knott's has...

 

- a Wild Mouse with 4 passenger cars

- a shuttle loop

- a Zamperla motorbike coaster with small 16 passenger trains

- a spinning coaster with small 16 passenger trains

- an Intamin accelerator coaster with 20 passenger trains that (up until recently) pretty much only ever ran 1 train

- up until recently, a Vekoma Boomerang

 

I see no indication that this park is in any way hesitant to buy low capacity coasters.

You can't count any rides installed prior to 1998, so Monty and Boom are out. Also, a sixteen seat train is not low capacity coaster. The ability to only run one train makes it a low capacity ride. Pony, Coast and Sidewinder were installed to cater to the growing family crowd. That's all. Whatever replaces Boom is clearly not going to be a family ride.

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On another note, this marker was found in the rocks inside the WhiteWater Falls slpashdown boat ride. Could we be seeing this ride removed??

 

 

I'd say so. Anyone seen the guys from RMC yet?

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On another note, this marker was found in the rocks inside the WhiteWater Falls slpashdown boat ride. Could we be seeing this ride removed??

 

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When I was at Patriots media day, the ride was shut down and a survey crew was inspecting the ride... who knows?!

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