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P. 476: Cedar Fair sells park land, CGA to close within the next 11 years

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Is anybody else heading to the park on Saturday. They're having a pass holder preview day for Boomerang Bay

 

I'll be there HAHA...

Boomerang Bay has been open privately the past 2 Saturdays to (i think it was) Lockheed for their events. I heard management debating on doing this for the extra Saturday in-between the regular opening, should be good for the park.

 

I actually don't know much about the height restrictions yet, I'll have to see what I can find out.

 

WaterWorld is taking precautions during the drought. I wonder what CGA is doing

http://wn.ktvu.com/story/29019658/waterworld-california-makes-changes-to-park-during-drought

 

I know that they use all recycled water with a big filtration system. There's the lake that Flight Deck flies over, as well as a reservoir attached to Rip Roaring Rapids.

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I went last saturday since i have a platinum pass from my home park and i was nearby. I have been to great america chicago and was curious to see it's twin park. I also love B&M inverts so wanted to try top gun.

 

Thanks to a guy at the ticket booth! I asked if i could get a discounted pass for my friend and he got in for $20. Staff were friendly and did a good job.

 

The parking lot was pretty full but the park wasn't too crowded. They do a good job to hide their queue lines though, most of the people there were probably in line somewhere. Ride ops were 'stackin 'em like six flags could only dream of! I realize they have only been open a few weekends, but wow! it was about a 45 minute wait for anything.

 

We went on goldstriker first. It was a solid cgi woodie (gci? cga? vga? whatever...) fast paced and lots of nice banking all the way through. I wanted to ride one of their coasters while still sort of new since they seem to et beat up badly over time. The last one i had been on was gwazai in january a week before it closed. I really enjoyed it but my friend who is not a coaster nerd but is a good sport screamed the whole way through. I didn't want to ask if it was screams of joy or fear or a bit of both... It was kinda cool that you could look into people's office windows while coming up the lift hill.

 

I got a lap on bayern kurve (or whatever they call it now) for nostalgia .

 

Demon seemed way smoother than it's gurnee cousin. ridiculous long wait for a third rate arrow looper, but by the time we realized how long the lineup was we were half way through it. It looks like they had a train track with tunnels behind it that have been ripped up.

 

My friend had fond memories of grizzly so we went to go on it until we saw the lineup, but he wondered if my platinum pass worked as a fastpass, so we went up the back, and the ride op said no, buy we managed to get through on a " can you let us through just this once?" thanks! It is not a really challenging coaster but it was running well and we had fun. it was more my friend's speed.

 

I had a look at the arrow wild mouse, which was neat to see since it is unique, but i wasn't willing to wait an estimated 45 minutes. We also skipped the skyride due to long lineups. as it turns out it took less time to walk than the line would have taken...

 

Got a ride on the schwarzkopf enterprize and noticed that it had cobwebs on the support arms. Really? would it kill you to brush them off let alone pressure wash before season opening? Fun though.

 

We next went on Top Gun. Maybe someone can correct me, but is this what Wonderland would have gotten if it weren't for cedar point's supposed 100 mile ban. instead, slc headbanger.... damn you whoever made that call! Even the themeing is way better. "flight deck" as wonderland's is now called looks like a decommissioned air base in comparison. It did seem like it was a shorter track than many Beemer inverts i have been on. Paramount legacy? Montu at bush gardens has got to be one of the best, and of course the original Batman @gurnee!

 

And for the sucky part. after waiting through the hidden que lines, and the realization that they were actually running 2 trains, despite stacking the second train for what seemed like 5 minutes, we made it to the station. I sat in the seat and brought the restraint down only to find the seatbelt would not fit. Im not skinny, but not that big and have been on B&M inverts at at least 6 other parks. I asked if they had any rows with larger belts but they had never heard of such an idea. They mentioned something about not having a belt extender yet.

 

sucks to be me. the one coaster i wanted to ride didn't fit. walk of shame... Maybe an in'n'out burger 4x4 animal style will take the sting out...

 

 

I was going to try the B@M standup, but it was getting late at that point, and my friend had been a good sport up to that point and i didn't want to send him home with a concussion.

 

so we went home. been there done that, don't really need to come back, no t shirt.

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Got a ride on the schwarzkopf enterprize and noticed that it had cobwebs on the support arms. Really? would it kill you to brush them off let alone pressure wash before season opening? Fun though.

 

For some reason we get a TON of spiders/spiderwebs at our park. I have literally brushed off full cobwebs on photo eyes on our daily inspections multiple days in a row. That said, maintenance only focuses on cleaning what is required for the ride to function, the rest is up to operations, and they honestly don't have the best operators at Orbit...

 

And for the sucky part. after waiting through the hidden que lines, and the realization that they were actually running 2 trains, despite stacking the second train for what seemed like 5 minutes, we made it to the station. I sat in the seat and brought the restraint down only to find the seatbelt would not fit. Im not skinny, but not that big and have been on B&M inverts at at least 6 other parks. I asked if they had any rows with larger belts but they had never heard of such an idea. They mentioned something about not having a belt extender yet.

 

sucks to be me. the one coaster i wanted to ride didn't fit. walk of shame... Maybe an in'n'out burger 4x4 animal style will take the sting out...

 

Dude, that really sucks to hear man... I don't think we do have any "larger size" seats like i have seen on other b&m's for whatever reason... truly sorry.

 

I was going to try the B@M standup, but it was getting late at that point, and my friend had been a good sport up to that point and i didn't want to send him home with a concussion.

 

so we went home. been there done that, don't really need to come back, no t shirt.

You really, REALLY didn't miss much of anything on vortex... layout is shorter than top gun, your friend WOULD have likely had a concussion from the headbanging...

 

 

aside from the experience on flight deck [ours is also called that now btw], it sounds like you had a really decent time.

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Got a ride on the schwarzkopf enterprize and noticed that it had cobwebs on the support arms. Really? would it kill you to brush them off let alone pressure wash before season opening? Fun though.

 

For some reason we get a TON of spiders/spiderwebs at our park. I have literally brushed off full cobwebs on photo eyes on our daily inspections multiple days in a row. That said, maintenance only focuses on cleaning what is required for the ride to function, the rest is up to operations, and they honestly don't have the best operators at Orbit...

This is true. I used to look at the webs on Flight Decks brake run and think "Why dont they clean these, it looks terrible" and then I realized its one of those things, they can keep cleaning them but they get put back up just as fast. When the whole ride was repainted recently I went on the first day it was open after the paint job was finished and all the webs were still there. Obviously they had been washed away before the ride was painted, but skaunit is right CGA just has some seriously stubborn spiders.

 

buck yeah it sucks what happened on Flight Deck for you. It's a pretty tight fit for me too. if it was close you might have better luck on another day and/or with another rideop..some of them are more skilled at others at getting those things to click. Its close for me on B&M inverts and used to be on Intamin shuttles (like V2 and Wicked Twister) before they started getting new slightly longer belts installed. Sounds like they might be doing the same on Flight Deck some time soon too.

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Visted yesterday for the first time, and it's a really clean and well taken care of park. It's a pretty decent size as well, much bigger than I had anticipated.

 

The park was pretty dead, didn't wait more than 1 or 2 trains for any ride. Got there around 3pm after leaving Discovery Kingdom and was done with all the rides around 7 or so.

 

 

Goldstriker was first, definitely my favorite GCI by far. It's so relentless and out of control. I hope they take good care of it because it would be one brutal ride if it gets any rougher.

 

We headed to Vortex which I was expecting to be horrible but actually wasn't. Not a great ride but not a bad one either, headbanging was minimal and it wasn't as rough as Mantis. The ride definitely speaks volumes of the stark difference in g-forces between B&M's earlier rides and their later ones.

 

Flight Deck was very forceful and smooth, again early B&M, and is easily the 2nd best ride in the park after Goldstriker. I do prefer Batman when it comes to old school inverts. Just seems to have better pacing and the perfect mix of elements.

 

Psycho Mouse was a nice surprise, a great little wild mouse and probably my 3rd favorite in the park.

 

Grizzly was up next, the ride isnt bad but there's really nothing exciting about it either. Looks pretty with the old school morgan trains though

 

Demon was by far the worst Arrow I've ridden. I've been on several Arrow loopers and after a while you learn how to ride them. However not this particular installment. The double loop (particularly the 2nd) just about snapped my neck in half. Neck still sore as I type this

 

Was surprised by the amount of flatrides the park has, we partook in a few like the Top Spin, Inveter ship, and spinning disco...sorry their names elude me at the moment lol

 

We left around 8 after marathoning Gold Striker and Flight Deck about 5 times each.

 

I really like this park and will be back if they get a new coaster in the coming years. I know the park doesn't pull the numbers of other Cedar Fair parks, but really hope they get a small hyper or a compact launcher in the near future.

 

I'm not good at remembering to take pics, but managed to snap a few

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buck yeah it sucks what happened on Flight Deck for you. It's a pretty tight fit for me too. if it was close you might have better luck on another day and/or with another rideop..some of them are more skilled at others at getting those things to click. Its close for me on B&M inverts and used to be on Intamin shuttles (like V2 and Wicked Twister) before they started getting new slightly longer belts installed. Sounds like they might be doing the same on Flight Deck some time soon too.

 

Despite the flight deck thing i had a good time and was glad i went. maybe they could pass the message on about the belts. I could get it to go in but not far enough to engage. The ride op tried to help and it was really close but no dice. Ride ops were friendly and helpful, but not very fast. Considering it was maybe the second weekend opening i guess they need more time to get experience.

 

Regarding arrow loops, i have a soft spot for them, since i grew up with the one at wonderland. I always found if you keep your head back against the headrest and look up into the loop it works well, and you feel the g forces strongly. I found this demon smoother than it's cousin in gurnee when i was there last june. I don't like arrow/ vekoma cobra rolls since you change from right to left ot right again and if you aren't careful you get a clunk clunk clunk against the otsr. The B&M standups i have been on were worse for this and i spent the ride looking up the track to see which side to brace to not get clobbered.

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My friend had fond memories of grizzly so we went to go on it until we saw the lineup, but he wondered if my platinum pass worked as a fastpass, so we went up the back, and the ride op said no, buy we managed to get through on a " can you let us through just this once?" thanks!

 

I'm still scratching my head as to what made you think a Platinum Pass worked as a fastpass. I'm also wondering why you asked to cut the line after knowing the latter was not the case.

 

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At the park right now, apparently there has been a accident on Flight Deck.

Word is that an employee was knocked from the platform by a train and has been hospitalized.

Ride is closed.

 

Two news choppers already circling low above the ride, though there can't be much for them to see in the dark, and tonight's fireworks display has been cancelled accordingly.

Anybody seen anything about this on local Bay Area news sources?

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I wish they would launch the fireworks to keep all the scaremongering away. Get those helicopters out of CGA's airspace.

 

Unfortunately, the fireworks are so close to Flight Deck that the whole ride area has to be evacuated before the show. No way they would delay their investigation for the fireworks.

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http://abc7news.com/news/two-injured-on-roller-coaster-at-great-america-in-santa-clara/781565/

 

 

SANTA CLARA, Calif. (KGO) -- Two people were injured at a roller coaster inside California's Great America in Santa Clara.

 

A park worker was apparently struck in the head by a rider 8:15 p.m. Friday on the Flight Deck roller coaster.

 

The Flight Deck ride is an inverted roller coaster and riders' legs freely from the coaster.

 

Ambulances arrived on scene and the worker and the parkgoer were both transported to a hospital. The worker suffered traumatic injuries and the rider's hand was injured.

 

Witnesses told ABC7 News that the park employee was hurt while trying to retrieve a dropped cell phone near the ride's platform.

 

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It wasn't an operator, it was a maintenance mechanic. I don't know many details about what procedures were or were not followed, I'm sure I will find out but I may not be able to post everything I hear/am told. Thoughts and prayers go out to the mechanic.

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Appears to have been a maintenance worker. My thoughts to those affected...

 

http://abc7news.com/news/two-injured-at-roller-coaster-inside-santa-claras-great-america/781565/

 

SANTA CLARA, Calif. (KGO) -- Friday evening, two people were injured on a roller coaster at California's Great America in Santa Clara.

 

A park maintenance worker was struck in the head by a rider 8:15 p.m. Friday on the Flight Deck roller coaster.

 

The Flight Deck ride is an inverted roller coaster where riders' legs freely dangle from the coaster. The original name of this ride was Top Gun.

 

Ambulances arrived on scene and the worker and the parkgoer were both transported to the hospital. The worker suffered traumatic injuries and the rider's hand was injured.

 

Witnesses told ABC7 News that the park employee was hurt while trying to retrieve a dropped cellphone near the ride's platform and the coaster drug him about 10-15 feet.

 

The park remained open until its usual time of 10 p.m. People leaving the park said Great America usually has a fireworks show at the end of the night, but there wasn't one Friday night.

 

Authorities say the ride will be shut down while they do their investigation and look at all the safety aspects of the ride. They said at this point it did not appear that the ride malfunctioned.

 

It's not the first time there's been an accident like this at Great America. Back in September 1998 a Mexican National, Renato Robles, was killed on what was known then as the Top Gun roller coaster. He was kicked in the head by a passenger when he jumped a security fence to retrieve his wife's hat.

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In other CGA news, tonight the park previewed "40 Seasons of Summer" show, the second of their three big summer shows.

 

The show is a musical trip down memory lane with favorite party songs from the four decades the park has been open set against the backdrop of the park's history, including an abundance of references to long-gone favorite rides that underscore just how passionate the team behind this show are about their park.

 

I wasn't a huge fan of the Broadway show that ran in the same theatre for the past couple of seasons, and I was kind of expecting to see more of the same this year, but was instead really pleasantly surprised by both timeless choice of songs, spectacular staging and talented cast, and as a CGA fan I absolutely loved all the references to park history.

 

Live entertainment at CGA continues to go from strength to strength, with a hugely passionate team of entertainment staff and performers. The current roster of summer shows are all worth checking out when you visit the park.

 

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The show kicks off with a wonderful rendition of the classic Marriot-era "Carousel Song". It really sets the tone of the show as being a loving tribute to the history of CGA, rather than just another generic rent-a-song variety show.

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Our master of ceremonies is Melvyn, a suitable coaster-boy character complete with park t-shirt and souvenir cup, and having ridden GoldStriker 5 times in a row!

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A huge LED video wall serves as the backdrop of the show. Apparently this is the first time any Cedar Fair park has used this technology in one of their shows.

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The cast of singers and dancers had boundless energy throughout the show.

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The 90s segment included a wonderfully tongue-in-cheek boyband number.

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An impromptu stage invasion occurred during the 90s segment (though this group of stage-invading "park guests" were actually comprised of the kids from the park's daytime Peanuts show).

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The final number started with an "In loving memory" segment in which classic rides of CGA past were highlighted, including Willard's Whizzer, Sky Whirl, Stealth and Invertigo.

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The cast take a well deserved bow after a great performance.

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If you know anything about the investigation going on I would not post anything. Management will be patrolling sites like this and screamscape etc.

 

I don't think they care about what guests and 3rd party people say. Workers at the park or maybe even other cedar fair parks fine, sure. Either way already seems like a open and shut case to me given it was a maintenance worker, so unless they are just on trash detail they should of known better. Though anyone who gets hired at a park should know not to go into restricted ride areas.

 

The guys just lucky he didn't end up like the teenager who got his head decapitated back in 2008.

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If you know anything about the investigation going on I would not post anything. Management will be patrolling sites like this and screamscape etc.

If you want to know things i suggest private messaging or texting the person.

 

Everything is going to be public record when the investigation is complete.

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I haven't been following 2016 speculation too much, but if Cedar Point's general manager, Jason McClure, is telling the truth then a Rougarou-like conversion is going to happen. Vortex to become floorless and get paint/new name?

 

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20150614/NEWS/306149989/surging-cedar-fair-isnt-just-enjoying-the-ride?X-IgnoreUserAgent=1

 

This year, however, Cedar Point unveiled Rougarou, a complete reimagining of its aging Mantis rollercoaster. Mantis was billed as the tallest standup rollercoaster in the world when it opened in 1996, but in recent years its ridership had waned and it had earned a reputation as being one of the more uncomfortable coasters in the park. The move, which appears to have been embraced by most coaster fanatics, transformed the stand-up coaster into a more conventional, floorless sit-down coaster.

 

The park's general manager, Jason McClure, described the transformation as like “trading in a box truck for a Corvette.” He added, “You're still on the turnpike, but it's a completely different experience,” McClure said. Witherow said Cedar Fair plans to do the same with other aging coasters in its portfolio, including one next year at its park near San Francisco.

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