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Well yeah your right I've been going to Great America for so long every summer since 1991 except 2007 & 2009 that I can't let it bother me now especially with the nice new Gold Striker I have to enjoy. I'd rather focus on Gold Striker anyway than worry about the stupid line cutters.

 

That's it exactly.

 

We FINALLY have this beautiful, kick ass roller coaster to enjoy... focus on that and you'll be fine.

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Great day with the group! But something was missing...but I can't quote put my finger on what it was...perhaps Gold Striker? Park was insanely crowded today but we had 12 hours as the park closed at 10:00pm. About line cutters, we dealt with some. I'd rather not let it ruin my day but at the same time it's rude. But what can you do?

 

Random highlights:

-Bumper Cars, some nice impacts while keeping from head on collisions

-Crowds remained pretty solid all day!

-Clench 'n squish on Logger's Run (5-person log, 3 in back half and 2 in front)

-Enthusiastic ride ops, really make your ride experiences that much better!

-Grizzly's line was too long and none of us even cared to ride it due to being hooked on GS

 

I really can't wait for Gold Striker to open now! Sure I will dread initial crowds but I kind of know what realistic wait times to expect.

 

Also I figured I'd share this for those who didn't get to ride Gold Striker, the so-called "Great Wall of Gold Striker." This actually produces some nice hand choppers as we were able to do hands up on the last train of the promo shoot. It's especially noticeable as you come out of the "Middle Finger Turn."

 

I'm definitely guessing that the promo shoot days were also the noise tests being conducted as the walls had gone up during the time we were riding. On the plus side for us riders, it block out a lot of the view of the neighboring offices (yay!).

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Reminds me ofBalder....but in the form of a GCI rather than an Intamin prefab...(Since Balder has a mix of tunnels and walls to be taken).

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Had a great day at CGA today, seems like a fun park to just wander around (a welcome relief after the craziness of SFDK yesterday). Even with GS closed there was still plenty to entertain us.

 

Some thoughts/observations:

- CGA is a beautiful park, they've done a great job with the landscaping, water features and keeping everything looking nice.

- a lot of downtime in the morning - rapids broke just as the raft I was on was about to depart (didn't end up riding it, may have avoided severe wetness here), then Tiki Twirl was broken, and Firefall got stuck in the "up" position as well (at the time I was taking random pics, thought the long hang time was just part of the ride cycle, then got told off by a security guard for taking a photo of the broken ride... oops)

- Flight Deck was the highlight (after I squeezed onto it... just!), wonderfully smooth for a coaster that's been around a while

- can't decide if Grizzly is worse than Roar or the other way around. Roar might be slightly better because of the padded trains. Grizzly's seatbelt + lapbar + lapbar belt seems like overkill. I'm sure they'll add OTSRs soon.

- Psycho Mouse is one of the smoothest wild mouse rides I've been on, very good.

- Firefall and Tiki Twirl (they reopened eventually) are cool variations on the standard ride models. Firefall ride ops probably get high off those propane fumes.

- flyers are great fun! Thanks to rolercstrluvr for showing us how to "snap" and taking us around in the afternoon.

 

Seriously impressed by CGA, might not have the biggest or craziest rides (well, until GS opens) but would love to have something like this closer to home. I'll definitely be back at some point!

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Firefall got stuck in the "up" position as well (at the time I was taking random pics, thought the long hang time was just part of the ride cycle, then got told off by a security guard for taking a photo of the broken ride... oops)

Security seriously got after you for taking a pic of a ride? Sure it was down but that seems a bit...awkward. To be fair though, my first time doing Haunt, one of the security guys was really being a nazi and said I couldn't have my camera out, period. I obeyed for that evening but following weekend, I opted to pull the camera out and had no issues. In the end I guess it really depends on the security...some take their job a bit too serious and others come off as pretty cool people.

 

Speaking of security, I kind of had an annoying moment during the Friday promo shoot...while normally security checks are pretty brief, the security I had gone through wanted to meticulously check every nook and cranny of my bag, to the point of reaching in and moving things around...and then when I got the wand scan, I happened to have a foil gum wrapper in my pocket (no trash can near by when I opened my piece of gum) that happened to trip their wands...I go to throw it out as I'm asked what I just threw it out. Uh, it's called garbage...hence making way to the trash can. Finally after what felt like an eternity, I got in just in time to meet the rest of the group who was just about to get off Gold Striker.

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- can't decide if Grizzly is worse than Roar or the other way around. Roar might be slightly better because of the padded trains. Grizzly's seatbelt + lapbar + lapbar belt seems like overkill. I'm sure they'll add OTSRs soon.

OTSRs, leg restraints, arm restraints....handcuffs.... Bondage: The Ride.

 

- flyers are great fun! Thanks to rolercstrluvr for showing us how to "snap" and taking us around in the afternoon.

.... 'nuff said...those who went last night know what I'm talking about haha

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- Flight Deck was the highlight (after I squeezed onto it... just!), wonderfully smooth for a coaster that's been around a while

It really is a great ride, I still can't believe it remains very intense and awesome for being 20 years old! Gotta love them old school B&Ms.

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Firefall got stuck in the "up" position as well (at the time I was taking random pics, thought the long hang time was just part of the ride cycle, then got told off by a security guard for taking a photo of the broken ride... oops)

Security seriously got after you for taking a pic of a ride? Sure it was down but that seems a bit...awkward. To be fair though, my first time doing Haunt, one of the security guys was really being a nazi and said I couldn't have my camera out, period. I obeyed for that evening but following weekend, I opted to pull the camera out and had no issues. In the end I guess it really depends on the security...some take their job a bit too serious and others come off as pretty cool people.

 

I felt like a bit of an ass once I realised the ride was down and those poor riders were stuck, but it was literally just one quick snap as I walked past. Great day otherwise!

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Congrats on hitting 50 rides to those that have!

 

I wish the coaster would have been open when I was there in early April. Either way its a beautiful coaster and it seems to fit really well where they built it. This was my first time to CGA so I am not sure if anything was there before or not.

 

On a side note I really liked this park when I was there. For me honestly I had the feeling the transition from Paramount to CF is slow process here. Some parts were still a little run down but over all the park is beautifully kept and very clean. Flight Deck was the surprise for me here as well as Demon - I LOVE this coaster a lot. Their Berserker is a LOT bigger than KD which I LOVED. I am so used to KD's living so close to it I was not expecting it to be so high at CGA. Being over the water made it that much more better. I also really enjoy their log flume - I just wish they cleaned up the grounds around it. They had a lot of things laying "behind the scenes" which you usually do not see at a CF park.

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Congrats on hitting 50 rides to those that have!

 

I wish the coaster would have been open when I was there in early April. Either way its a beautiful coaster and it seems to fit really well where they built it. This was my first time to CGA so I am not sure if anything was there before or not.

 

On a side note I really liked this park when I was there. For me honestly I had the feeling the transition from Paramount to CF is slow process here. Some parts were still a little run down but over all the park is beautifully kept and very clean. Flight Deck was the surprise for me here as well as Demon - I LOVE this coaster a lot. Their Berserker is a LOT bigger than KD which I LOVED. I am so used to KD's living so close to it I was not expecting it to be so high at CGA. Being over the water made it that much more better. I also really enjoy their log flume - I just wish they cleaned up the grounds around it. They had a lot of things laying "behind the scenes" which you usually do not see at a CF park.

Thanks! Glad to hear you had a good time! Regarding the transition from Paramount to CF, even though CF took over in 2006/2007, I feel this year is the year when CF finally took the reigns and is in control (Thank You Ouimet!). With the Stadium/Neighbor issue all cleared up, we finally have a great coaster & CF finally can invest in the future of the park since being blindsided in 09 with the cancellation of the original GCI & pending sale in '11. The future is definitely bright as the GM said!

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So I keep wondering when will Goldy officially open? They said May & they have 2 weekends left & there's been no announcement. Are they delaying it until June? All I could say is thank goodness I've already been on it to get a preview. Just wish it were officially open. Am I in luck or what? Gold Striker celebrates my 20 years of coaster riding. All began at Great America on the Demon in 1993 -I was so scared of going upside down! After that it got me hooked on coasters. My next big coaster was the Vortex which I got to ride twice without getting off! I didn't get to go on Top Gun until about 96. I refuse to call Top Gun Flight Deck. What a crappy name!

Now I have total faith in Cedar Fair. They are really turning things around for the park when we all thought for awhile it would close down. For starters they gave us a nice kick A$$ woodie, new action theater movie, fresh paint around the park, & I am hoping/praying after Goldy they will keep the kick A$$ coasters coming LIKE a Maverick clone, Flight Of Fear, Back Lot Stunt coaster. All of those can fit anywhere in the park!

At least I have 5 rides on Goldy but am trying to wait patiently for it to finally open!!! My 5 rides will hold me over until it opens.

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So I keep wondering when will Goldy officially open? They said May & they have 2 weekends left & there's been no announcement. Are they delaying it until June?

I'm going to take a shot in the dark and say Memorial Day Weekend, the weekend of my next CGA visit (either the 25 or the 26th). Technically it would still be 'opening in May' just like how Superman Ultimate Flight (SFDK) technically opened in the spring even though it was literally at the tail end of the spring season.

 

The First Rider auction is still TDB as well (as it seems). We shall see when it opens but I'm sure my 52 rides in on the coaster can hold me over for the next couple weeks...will give me a chance to get the ride out of my system so it will feel fresh again (not that Gold Striker ever got old...I could ride it all day if I wanted )

I am hoping/praying after Goldy they will keep the kick A$$ coasters coming LIKE a Maverick clone...

 

Well an exact clone of Maverick would not fit but a custom Intamin Blitz coaster would definitely be a neat addition, or a Mack megacoaster like Blue Fire or Helix...definitely need a gimmick that kinda the launched coasters up north, something worthy of competing with...with a little more length of course.

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Gumball, so are you saying they are not allowed to open in until they are graced with your royal presence?

 

As for the next new coaster, I would love a Maverick type of ride but I'm thinking it's going to be something really good, something that nobody sees coming or would ever expect, something......... blue.....

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Somebody needs to tell management this problem is getting way out of control.

 

So... did you let them know? Nothing wrong with stopping by Guest Relations and filing a report, in a polite way. If no one says anything, nothing will happen. "They won't do anything anyway" happens when no one gives feedback.

 

Cedar Fair is a class act, I would imagine they would appreciate the feedback.

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I've actually spoken to some of the higher ups about the issue we had Saturday and how the cutting was happening...the kids were cutting across the grass from exit path at Flight Deck to meet with their friends...like 5 kids. We were watching them like a hawk as they did the same.

 

I have faith in the park that measures will be taken to help thwart off line jumpers especially when summer hits.

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^Kudos! Whenever I stop in Guest Relations with any sort of constructive criticism ("complaint"), I make sure to give compliments to the park or a certain employee (or both!). People are out of control. I don't remember line cutting being so bad in the old days. It was very clear to everyone that leaving the line and returning to join your friends up in the line was NOT allowed. I can't believe people still use that excuse "but my friends are up there!" When I worked at CP we kept folded up brochures in our back pocket to show to line jumpers when they used that one (not sure the park rules specify that now?)

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I am hoping/praying after Goldy they will keep the kick A$$ coasters coming LIKE a Maverick clone...

 

Well an exact clone of Maverick would not fit but a custom Intamin Blitz coaster would definitely be a neat addition, or a Mack megacoaster like Blue Fire or Helix...definitely need a gimmick that can too the launched coasters up north...with a little more length of course.

 

Hey, long time TPR stalker here - I see that ^ posted all the time on this site. Everyone always says Great America doesn't have room for this or for that... Cedar Point builds coasters through each other, on top of buildings. over parking lots, picnic areas. You've got to have an imagination for space maximization. Believe me, that little park has a lot of unused space for anything they want to build (aside from the height restrictions...even that, with a little political pull could be worked around) (How tall are the buildings in DT San Jose that are in the flight path?)

Did you know Great America has the exact same acreage as the Disneyland park?

 

When Cedar Point built Maverick, they demo'd both their raft ride and their last flume ride. (the other one was demo'd for the B&M Raptor) They used the flume station and built Maverick inside of it's raft ride's troughs. (Hmmmmm, I wonder if Great America has an aging flume ride and raft ride that are near each other?) Not saying I believe they want to remove more rides, but the "Point" is (get it?) anything is possible with Cedar Fair.

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Gold Striker hurry up & open! We all want to ride you again so bad! I have a feeling since Gold Striker experienced riders they are working out the kinks so that when it opens it will be smooth operations & no down time. I do have a sinking feeling it might not open until next month -next month is still spring until the 21st which is the first day of summer. But on the bright side I would have enough for a Fast Lane & I'd be able to go on it's opening day if it will be June. If it were opening this month we already would have heard an announcement.

Angry Gumball I can bet that you will reach 100 rides by the end of the season. Now that would be an even bigger record breaker!

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^ Only thing I have to say is that if they say it'll open in May, that's when it will open. You just have to be patient, we all do. About the 100 rides, i'd say it'll be possible for Angry Gumball but it would be slim as he doesn't attend the park as much as I do. Even though I may be behind in the race, but I haven't lost the war.

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Just like rolercstrluvr said, Gold Striker will open this month and it should open before Memorial Day.

 

 

When Cedar Point built Maverick, they demo'd both their raft ride and their last flume ride. (the other one was demo'd for the B&M Raptor) They used the flume station and built Maverick inside of it's raft ride's troughs. (Hmmmmm, I wonder if Great America has an aging flume ride and raft ride that are near each other?) Not saying I believe they want to remove more rides, but the "Point" is (get it?) anything is possible with Cedar Fair.

 

 

If the park were to remove Loggers Run for a coaster I wouldn't care too much. Sure I would miss it, but if an amazing coaster were to replace it then that would be fantastic! However I doubt the park would remove the rapids ride as well.

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Rapids & Logger's Run are still big crowd pleasers and plus it would lessen the number of water rides if they removed them. I could see Whitewater Falls going which would leave a lot of real estate for a coaster (a la like the former sister SFGAm) and wrap around, over, next to and/or under the Demon, though you'd have to deal with the offices next door again. Remember CGA is only 100 acres not 300+ like CP, as CP added a newer flume ride with Shoot The Rapids afterwards. I could imagine a coaster being built over the Rapids as well, with a station next to the covered bridge.

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As far as the height restriction, if they want something taller why can't they just build it in the ground more? Are there some ground issues that would prevent this?

 

I believe they can't go into the ground much due to the water table. The wetlands aren't really that far from the park.

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