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This is some crazy idea but since The Chiller is on Ital, JMA could purchase that coaster for the 2012 season for a cheap amount.

 

Where would they put it? My guess would be Redwood Amphitheater since no pesky neighbors would bother it.

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I was starting to eyeball that compact woodie GCI showcased on their Facebook...seems like it would be a perfect fit and the perfect type of coaster for the park size-wise, as much as I still really want that proposed GCI to still happen. Incase you don't follow GCI, they posted a photo and link to their Youtube page with this coaster:

 

Here's a photoshopping of the ride in place. However, 2 woodies next to each other may be kind of awkward.

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I'd much rather see a Eurofighter or a X-Car Coaster on Invertigarden, It would just be really awkward to have a compact woodie and Grizzly in such close proximity of each other.

 

On another note, Great America now has street view in Google maps.

 

My preference would be something launched (X-Car, Premiere, or....you know we could really use a nice Intamin coaster). I took a 'walk' around the park earlier, looks really cool. I did spot a familiar face several times (Being Ryan, the one who gave us the backstage tour and arranged stuff with TPR for TPR day). Of course, the faces are blurred. In reality, I was looking to see if any GP were caught on the Google camera doing stupid GP-ish stuff.

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Well, obviously you haven't been to SFMM recently and compared it to how it was 2 years ago.

As far of the rides that were removed, they were just rides that no one liked or rode. So it's not like you'll really notice they're gone.

Those new trains on X will increase capacity so more people will get to ride, making the line not be so painfully long.

Thomas Town will give the park a better variety so that more families will come and give the park more money to make more improvements.

And the New Paint on Ninja and Viper. That just makes the ride look nicer. It's eyecandy. Which is something Cedar Fair could really use.

Plus much more.

 

And now let's see what Cedar Fair has done to CGA

Made everything an eyesore

New coaster for 2009

More Trash Cans

More Typical Cedar Fair Crap.

 

If you like what Cedar Fair has done, that's fine. But let's end this war on whether Cedar Fair ruined CGA or not before it gets out of hand.[/i]

 

Just wanted to re-quote this post from three years ago about Cedar Fair's take-over of CGA.

 

"THEY DIDN'T HELP THE PARK AT ALL GO TO SIX FLAGS NO PLACE IS BETTER EVERWHERE ELSE IS DUMB BUT SIX FLAGS!!11!1"

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Here's my recap/take:

Made everything an eyesore

They really haven't done much visually to the park, actually seems rather clean.

New coaster for 2009

Wishful thinking, not sure what's up with the project now that CF has gotten rid of their red-headed stepchild.

More Trash Cans
Yep but kept the park clean for the most part.
More Typical Cedar Fair Crap.
If you count turning a park's attraction into a lawn area, I'd have to agree. Didn't Demon Drop become a lawn also?

 

On the plus side, atleast the park now has a Haunt event that turns out that it's a huge success for the park.

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Just wanted to re-quote this post from three years ago about Cedar Fair's take-over of CGA.

 

"THEY DIDN'T HELP THE PARK AT ALL GO TO SIX FLAGS NO PLACE IS BETTER EVERWHERE ELSE IS DUMB BUT SIX FLAGS!!11!1"

 

Did CF really help the park much? I don't remember them making many investments outside of Firefall and Planet Snoopy and even then, CF not only removed a ride, but pretty much dropped the park altogether.

 

Compare that to all the stuff SF's pumped into not only SFMM, but SFDK.

 

Hell, compare that to the stuff CF's pumped into every single other former Paramount park. Most of them received B&M Hypers and all of them received Windseeker towers/Planet Snoopy expansions. CW got a hyper AND a giga while KD managed to score a nice Floorless coaster and a giga coaster. It seems that CF is treating the other Paramount parks better than some of the older CF parks like WOF and Knotts.

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^The Paramount parks, especially CW and KI, are huge money makers. I mean, when CF purchased the chain they were forced to take CGA because it was a package deal. The top 4 performing parks as of the 3rd quarter were CW, CGA, KBF, and KI as stated on the CF website.

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^ Interesting, if CGA is one of their top performing parks, then chances are the it's the city's fault the park hasn't gotten a major investment under CF.

 

That makes me wonder why Paramount stopped investing in the park after Boomerang Bay or why CF/Paramount didn't invest in smaller additions like Italian Job clones or more family attractions during the 2000s.

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Doing some digging, was reading some old posts last night in this thread and remembered a post stating this (I believe from Cedar Fair):

Although the acquisition of the Paramount Parks in 2006 continues to meet the Company's collective operating and profitability goals, the performance of Great America fell below its original expectation and resulted in this impairment charge.

 

Until this year, CGA wasn't consistently a top performer. It could have been a better performing park however if there were some more TLC pumped into the park during the Cedar Fair era.

 

I wish we would hear some more news about the park as the 'wait and see' mode's starting to drive me crazy. I'm still patiently waiting to see the so-called opportunity that the Cedar Fair design crew's been working on (that probably made its way to the shredder and recycle bin).

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^I guess this can be considered "news": Flight Deck and Star Tower are still standing! You can see them in this construction video of the Global Winter Wonderland event: (some reason I can't get the embed code to work)

 

 

I hope they do something to cover up those parking lines. "Parking Lot Wonderland," anyone?

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^I guess this can be considered "news": Flight Deck and Star Tower are still standing! You can see them in this construction video of the Global Winter Wonderland event: (some reason I can't get the embed code to work)

 

 

I hope they do something to cover up those parking lines. "Parking Lot Wonderland," anyone?

 

I actually passed by CGA earlier today heading west on Tasman and caught a glimpse.

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Modifying the lease to suit their financial needs, kind of what I'm getting out of it...I'm not sure if I should be concerned about this or not, but am approaching with extreme caution.

 

While this makes me feel relieved:

It is

in the City's best interests to ensure that the new owner/operator has the financial and operating capability to

continue the long-term success of the Park.

 

It is this that's got this funky stench in the air:

JMA is requesting an amendment to the existing

ground lease with the intent to make the project more financeable and to clarify and/or modify certain terms

and conditions of the lease.

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Modifying the lease to suit their financial needs, kind of what I'm getting out of it...I'm not sure if I should be concerned about this or not, but am approaching with extreme caution.

 

While this makes me feel relieved:

It is

in the City's best interests to ensure that the new owner/operator has the financial and operating capability to

continue the long-term success of the Park.

 

It is this that's got this funky stench in the air:

JMA is requesting an amendment to the existing

ground lease with the intent to make the project more financeable and to clarify and/or modify certain terms

and conditions of the lease.

 

I agree about that last quote there, when reading that, it just seems strange and makes one wonder what they want to modify on the ground lease to make the project "more financeable". Of course, it is early in the process of all this and I could be wrong, but from that, it seems like they have other ideas for land the park sits on, or in the least, portions of the land, to become some other uses, that is if the city approves it all. I'd hope this is not the end for Great America.

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