coaster-crazy Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 The 2011 CGA park map is available online now. Download a full version here with rides names and 2011 events. The map shows the Invertigo removal and Tiki Twirl changes. http://cagreatamerica.com/DOCs/11_cga_parkmap.pdf ~Nicholas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagg O'Dim Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 Check out that forest, new for 2011! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netdvn Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 ^ More like concrete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrillrider Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 "Tiki Twirl...could have been worse....they could've named it 'Junglehawk'". Actually, " tiki twirl" was the name of a ride at cedarpoint in the 80's. I guess they are resurrecting the name after all of these years. Tiki twirl was a spinning ride kinda like calypso. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry_Gumball Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 (edited) I found an interesting bit of information in today's newspaper about the 49er's future with Santa Clara, found here: http://www.insidebayarea.com/ci_17438186?IADID=Search-www.insidebayarea.com-www.insidebayarea.com Fearful that it could lose up to $40 million in redevelopment funds already promised for a new 49ers football stadium, the Santa Clara City Council plans on Tuesday to send a message to Gov. Jerry Brown: Don't take away our stadium money. City leaders are doing whatever they can to remind the governor that the 68,500-seat, $937 million stadium planned next to the Great America theme park has been a long-standing project that involves redevelopment funds, and should not be cut under Brown's proposal to do away with redevelopment agencies. Without redevelopment funds, city leaders say they have no other public money to tap for the project, which city voters approved in June under the promise the city wouldn't use money from its general fund. "The state's raid on local redevelopment agencies is a terrible thing," said Santa Clara Mayor Jamie Matthews. As a proactive measure, the City Council plans on Tuesday to "memorialize" official language into the stadium deal, effectively etching in stone that leaders had been crafting the proposal long before Brown began looking at disbanding redevelopment agencies. "We wanted to be clear in our language that this has been planned out and under way for a long time," said acting assistant city manager Carol McCarthy. "We've been working on this for four years." Shortly after he took office, Brown proposed doing away with redevelopment agencies across the state, Advertisement and funneling that money to schools and local governments. At issue specifically for the upcoming 49ers stadium project is up to $40 million that Santa Clara's Redevelopment Agency has previously committed -- and voters approved spending in June. But Bill Bailey of Santa Clarans Play Fair, the grass-roots group formed in opposition to any public funding of the stadium, said he supported Brown's plan to phase out redevelopment agencies. "This property tax money should go to the county and to schools," Bailey said. "That was the original intent. We shouldn't be subsidizing the 49ers." McCarthy stressed that of the "up to $40 million," city leaders believe they'll only need to issue $26 million in bonds, and the rest could be borrowed from the team to cover the redevelopment portion of the stadium contribution. Still, if the state Legislature decides to force redevelopment agencies to close up shop -- and cut off their cash flow -- then McCarthy conceded: "I don't know what we'll do." McCarthy said the city would not put out another vote for Santa Clara residents. "We'll have to come up with another source of funding, a private source," she said. Matthews reiterated: "The money would have to come from the team or other investors. But it wouldn't become an obligation for the taxpayers." The ballot measure voters approved in June prohibits the city from dipping into any city fund, other than the redevelopment agency, to pay for the stadium project. Matthews said no one's been knocking on any doors looking for money just yet. "At this point, we're just waiting to see what will occur," he said. Similarly, 49ers spokeswoman Lisa Lang said the team has no Plan B. "The voters voted on it," Lang said. "That money is an important part of the project and we're expecting it." Lang also noted that of the approximately $40 million, the 49ers have guaranteed a $17 million advance to the redevelopment agency portion of the project. But if redevelopment agencies disappear, Lang said: "The team would have to figure out how to address the gap. But we're not there yet." On Tuesday, the council also is expected to establish itself as the Stadium Authority, which will own and operate the proposed stadium. The council also will vote to allow the Redevelopment Agency to issue new debt so that the agency can issue bonds for the stadium construction and other infrastructure improvements in the Bayshore North Area. "The state hasn't been clear on what it's going to do with redevelopment agencies," McCarthy said. "But we want to show this has been in the pipeline, since we don't know what the line of demarcation will be. Will it be all projects? We have no idea. But we're concerned." Sounds like a plan? Pump the much needed funds into schools that really need it (Trust me, the students really need a decent education...our future I don't hold too much hope for), and help us Great America fans in the long run I kind of see this 49er's proposal much like a freeway proposal that came into play in my city. One of the main roads was to have a freeway running alongside of it. However, lots of hurdles had to be jumped and the plan fell flat on its face. In the end, the city is drastically altering the main road, in which we are one of the side streets from that main road. So maybe with how many hurdles that the 49ers have to go through, maybe plans could change, who knows. Edited February 22, 2011 by Angry_Gumball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalCoasters Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Yay! Jerry Brown is actually doing something that I actually approve of! Take away stadium money! Schools are more important anyway! Seriously, if this stadium project died, I think CGA could prosper again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuckinNorCal Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 I read this on wikipedia (I know it's not a reliable source) talking about Demon when it first opened "It featured two airtime hills right after the first drop" and "the hills were known for ejecting loose articles from the train, such as hats, sunglasses and stuffed animals" IS THIS TRUE?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big-M Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 ^ This is correct. Demon opened in 1976 as Turn of the Century, and had its airtime hills replaced with loops in 1980. It was also rethemed to "The Demon". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottBrown Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 And I hear many people say Turn Of The Century was way better than the Demon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuckinNorCal Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Wow! I'd love to ride Turn of the Century! Wish they kept the airtime hills there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tmcdllr Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Yes that was before the 'Demon' makeover when it was still its original name, the 'Turn of the Century'. I remember those hills, they did provide some air, they were fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coaster-crazy Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Here are the airtime hills. This is of the Gurnee, Illinois park, but the CGA version was essentially the same. See more photos here: http://www.greatamericaparks.com/images/thumbnails.php?album=131 ~Nicholas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolliger&Mabillard Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Demon is a greatride in it's own right. Can't imagine it beig better than what t is...well for an Arrow looper, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABW Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Anyone notice how in some pictures the ride is red, but in others it's white? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkStitch626 Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Well in its early years it did have a more white appeal, then red. Now of course most know it to be black with red rails. Personally I'd be sad to see Demon be removed. Only the future can tell these things. I just hope to get to the park before anything else is removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhman93 Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Anyone notice how in some pictures the ride is red, but in others it's white? I think the one at what is now SFGAM was white while CGA's was red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry_Gumball Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 I could be completely wrong but I always thought the track was all white and only the corkscrews were red at some point. Demon could use a new paint job though, some of what looks like "Turn of the Century white" is starting to show through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted February 23, 2011 Author Share Posted February 23, 2011 And I hear many people say Turn Of The Century was way better than the Demon People may say that, but I believe it's probably more in the sense of "ha, ha, I rode it and you didn't, so therefore it was better." In my memory of it, those airtime hills were exactly the same as the one on Corkscrew at Cedar Point. Nothing really to write home about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCForce Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 I could be completely wrong but I always thought the track was all white and only the corkscrews were red at some point. Demon could use a new paint job though, some of what looks like "Turn of the Century white" is starting to show through. You are correct. When the rides opened in 1976 they were both all white. Then a few seasons later the corkscrews were painted red, but the rest of the track and structure was still white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tmcdllr Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 And I hear many people say Turn Of The Century was way better than the Demon People may say that, but I believe it's probably more in the sense of "ha, ha, I rode it and you didn't, so therefore it was better." In my memory of it, those airtime hills were exactly the same as the one on Corkscrew at Cedar Point. Nothing really to write home about. That's how I remember them, the hills were fun but nothing really spectacular. I was ten years old so I'm sure it seemed way more super cool that it actually was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolliger&Mabillard Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 When I was 10 I thought Power Rangers were spectacular Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABW Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 So then why is Demon at SFGA all black and CGA is black but with red rails? Just thought I'd ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry_Gumball Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 (edited) Switching gears here. It's *that close* to being confirmed, our Invertigo is headed to Dorney. http://newsplusnotes.blogspot.com/2011/02/special-delivery-at-dorney-park.html One of our readers was behind a truck this morning that was making a very special delivery to Dorney Park. This photo was taken going down Lincoln Ave. toward the park's main entrance. Looks like some of the train from the ride has now arrived at the park from California. For comparison, see this photo of the train at California's Great America at RCDB. Our reader reports that another truck was on its way in, but was enclosed so they couldn't see what was in that one. Not that this is a thread for DP, but I thought I'd share with you. Where did Dorney's Laser ride go anyway? Would be strange if that came our way, as part of a ride swap program. EDIT: Nevermind about Laser, just found out that it's now a traveling ride in Germany, so no Schwarzkopf for CGA, that eliminates that kind of possibility. Edited February 24, 2011 by Angry_Gumball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jray21 Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 ^If only Kat had a truck like that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottBrown Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 That sucks I would have LOVED lazer to show up there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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