raether Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 as for Vortex - Im still holding out hope that the conversion includes adding more track - Lift moved to straight out of the station and 130 feet tall, with a inverted turn dive drop, into a loop- a zero G roll - A high banked turn into the existing loop and remainder of the existing ride... Yes I'm dreaming... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Password121 Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 as for Vortex - Im still holding out hope that the conversion includes adding more track - Lift moved to straight out of the station and 130 feet tall, with a inverted turn dive drop, into a loop- a zero G roll - A high banked turn into the existing loop and remainder of the existing ride... Yes I'm dreaming... Sorry, but never going to happen. The engineering of the layout that remained unchanged would be all off because the speed and forces would be impacted. It would cost so much more than it's worth in the end and might be impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmax Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 The Joker has raged his doom on California's Great America! Â "WWWHY SSSO SSSERIOUSSSS CCCEDAR FFFAIR??!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vonni Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 ^ For real though! Come on CF! Get with the program already! RMC. Its a good thing. (In my best Martha Stewart voice.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laqueefa Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 The Joker has raged his doom on California's Great America! "WWWHY SSSO SSSERIOUSSSS CCCEDAR FFFAIR??!!"  It's going to be great to see what comes to both parks in the next 5 years. With Gold Striker and now The Joker, we are seeing some world class coasters coming to Northern CA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vonni Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 ^ Yes! Now SFDK needs to bring back a traditional wooden coaster since they have lost their only one due to the Roar conversion, and CGA needs to bring in RMC for Grizzly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superbatboy Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Wouldn't it be cool if SFDK and CGA got into some type of building war? Probably a 0.01% chance of happening though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vonni Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 ^ Yeah, Prudential would probably have a thing or two to say about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laqueefa Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 ^ Yes! Now SFDK needs to bring back a traditional wooden coaster since they have lost their only one due to the Roar conversion, and CGA needs to bring in RMC for Grizzly! Â RMC'ing Grizzly makes ZERO sense. Zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vonni Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 ^ How exactly does it make "zero" sense? Its a mediocre ride that is not very popular and is rough. RMC makes every bit of sense. Turn a bum ride into a star attraction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBrylczyk Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 ^ For real though! Come on CF! Get with the program already! RMC. Its a good thing. (In my best Martha Stewart voice.) Â Six Flags had a stranglehold on RMC for the past few years. Cedar Fair was probably just late to the game and RMC is all booked up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laqueefa Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 ^ How exactly does it make "zero" sense? Its a mediocre ride that is not very popular and is rough. RMC makes every bit of sense. Turn a bum ride into a star attraction. Â So, you want to turn a family coaster that was not designed to be an extreme thrill ride and turn it into an extreme thrill ride... Right. Have you ridden it lately? The retracking they've done have vastly improved it. A lot of the problem areas that were rough have been smoothed out. I have yet to hear any viable reason to RMC a ride like Grizzly beyond the typical selfish want of more coasters. Trust me, I know those feels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singemfrc Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 ^ How exactly does it make "zero" sense? Its a mediocre ride that is not very popular and is rough. RMC makes every bit of sense. Turn a bum ride into a star attraction. Â So, you want to turn a family coaster that was not designed to be an extreme thrill ride and turn it into an extreme thrill ride... Right. Have you ridden it lately? The retracking they've done have vastly improved it. A lot of the problem areas that were rough have been smoothed out. I have yet to hear any viable reason to RMC a ride like Grizzly beyond the typical selfish want of more coasters. Trust me, I know those feels. I don't remember Grizzly ever being rough. It's just not exciting, but that's ok. The only real problem it has is the insane amount of time it takes to dispatch a train due to all the crazy redundant and restrictive restraints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyboy13 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Grizzly is just boring. Honestly, Pyscho Mouse is more thrilling. What is the height restriction on GoldStriker, is it more than Grizzly? If they are, or could somehow be the same, there's no need for Grizzly as is. An RMC conversion would make perfect sense to me if that were the case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tmcdllr Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 As awesome as an RMC conversion would be on this ride why bother, it would be like trying to polish a turd. Â If they do anything to Grizzly it should be burn it to the ground and start over with a ride that is actually good. Â Yeah flame me if you want I don't care. Â Maybe it would help if the dispatch times weren't so incredibly long... maybe not. Â I used to run panel on Grizzly and used to enjoy it back in the day so yes, I do have fond memories of it but let's be real..... it just sucks. Right now, to me, it's just a space filler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laqueefa Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 As awesome as an RMC conversion would be on this ride why bother, it would be like trying to polish a turd. Â Exactly. The layout as it stands would need to be seriously altered by RMC to make it thrilling. It did gain some rough spots over the years, mostly at the bases of its drops, which have been re-tracked and smoothed out. If they're going to put in a new coaster, they could really use the land Grizzly sits on but I dont see that happening at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tmcdllr Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 As awesome as an RMC conversion would be on this ride why bother, it would be like trying to polish a turd. Â Exactly. The layout as it stands would need to be seriously altered by RMC to make it thrilling. It did gain some rough spots over the years, mostly at the bases of its drops, which have been re-tracked and smoothed out. If they're going to put in a new coaster, they could really use the land Grizzly sits on but I dont see that happening at all. Â Â I think that's really what kills it. It's just a ho hum layout. Some drops, some turns, some boring long runs..... yawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laqueefa Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 As awesome as an RMC conversion would be on this ride why bother, it would be like trying to polish a turd. Â Exactly. The layout as it stands would need to be seriously altered by RMC to make it thrilling. It did gain some rough spots over the years, mostly at the bases of its drops, which have been re-tracked and smoothed out. If they're going to put in a new coaster, they could really use the land Grizzly sits on but I dont see that happening at all. Â I think that's really what kills it. It's just a ho hum layout. Some drops, some turns, some boring long runs..... yawn. Â Which is exactly why it's a hit with families with littles. Sure, it has the same height requirement as Gold Striker, but mom's and dad's can take their timid kids on Grizzly and work them up to something like GS. They are at two opposite ends of the spectrum, and Grizzly isn't going anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XSupremacy Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 As awesome as an RMC conversion would be on this ride why bother, it would be like trying to polish a turd. Â Exactly. The layout as it stands would need to be seriously altered by RMC to make it thrilling. It did gain some rough spots over the years, mostly at the bases of its drops, which have been re-tracked and smoothed out. If they're going to put in a new coaster, they could really use the land Grizzly sits on but I dont see that happening at all. Â I think that's really what kills it. It's just a ho hum layout. Some drops, some turns, some boring long runs..... yawn. Â Which is exactly why it's a hit with families with littles. Sure, it has the same height requirement as Gold Striker, but mom's and dad's can take their timid kids on Grizzly and work them up to something like GS. They are at two opposite ends of the spectrum, and Grizzly isn't going anywhere. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XSupremacy Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 When do you guys think the announcement is going to happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarmart Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 According to Screamscape, it is rumored that the Vortex conversion has been pushed back to 2017 or maybe wont happen at all. Either way, I feel like we wont get a new coaster anytime soon. Maybe in 10 years. Smh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laqueefa Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 According to Screamscape, it is rumored that the Vortex conversion has been pushed back to 2017 or maybe wont happen at all. Either way, I feel like we wont get a new coaster anytime soon. Maybe in 10 years. Smh... Â Wait until people are lining up in droves to ride Joker over at SFDK... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grsupercity Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 According to Screamscape, it is rumored that the Vortex conversion has been pushed back to 2017 or maybe wont happen at all. Either way, I feel like we wont get a new coaster anytime soon. Maybe in 10 years. Smh... Â Screamscape has been a lot less reliable lately. I wouldn't put to much thought into it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyRCT3 Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 (edited) It makes sense, honestly. The rumor seemed to have CGA all in favor for the conversion, then Joker was announced, and now this. Seems a bit more than coincidental. Edited September 17, 2015 by JonnyRCT3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tmcdllr Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Perhaps they realized a grizzly conversion is a better investment than a vortex one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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