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P. 403 - Park opening for a limited Holiday Event!

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Just to piggy back on why the park was crowded. Winterfest has actually lost quite a few days of operating due to the monsoon Charlotte has been in for at least a month. We've maybe had 3 total days of sunshine since the snow storm and on days that they attempted to open due to low crowds because of weather they closed at 7 or 8pm. So the day you went was the first no rain but overcast day and everybody flocked who had tickets from prior days that Carowinds allowed to let use on another operating day plus of course you SP holders as myself who basically live at Carowinds when the gate opens. Yes I was there that night as well and it was crazy.

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Rides have been testing and lots of credible people are openly sharing it. I believe it. It's ballsy for Cedar Fair considering the fact that North Carolina is having a rise in cases (not because goin

The event has been live for like not even 5 hours.  Eeesh give people some time.

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Yeah, Six Flags is more of an all day event where this is just a place to spend a few hours. It’s very nice, but a totally different type of thing.

 

I liked Winterfest but I’d take Holiday in the Park any day, though I feel like in some aspects Six Flags could learn a lot from Cedar Fair (see: merchandise and selling those weird igloo cabana things).

 

I think that the problem is that Six Flags just runs on a shoestring budget. While the sticker price for admission may be in line with Cedar Fair, they really sell some cut rate season passes. And as a result, most of the people who go to the parks are there with their season passes or part of special group rates. So many teenagers end up paying less than $10 per visit because or how cheap the passes are and how often their parents use SF as a babysitting service.

 

And it looks like Six Flags may be fine with it. They just put up some rides and coasters, put up a few posters for the "theming", understaff the park, and the financials balance themselves out.

 

Cedar Fair does charge more for admission, but the season passes are also realistic multiples of the single day tickets. So they end up making more per visitor, and can afford to spend more money to give the guest a better in-park experience.

 

I'm still confused about this post.

 

To clarify, Holiday in the Park is the Six Flags event and the point of my post is that I like it much, much better than the Cedar Fair events. In my mind it's a much better product.

 

I'm not sure why you would quote that to bash Six Flags. You can bash them if you'd like but I wanted to clarify my post if there was any confusion.

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Carowinds is my home park but it's still 1.5 hours away, so I doubt I'll ever go to Winterfest unless I happen to be in or passing through Charlotte for another reason. It's all about the coaster lineup to me, and Six Flags seemingly crushes CF on that aspect with their winter events.

 

Lights are pretty but provide no g-force or airtime. I understand closing off an entire area of a park like some SF parks do. But it's cruel to open Ricochet and have Fury 325 sitting idle right around the corner. And yes, I get it, holiday events are for a whole different crowd. Adding Fury OR Intimidator OR Copperhead Strike next year would probably get me in the door. Which would generate zero revenue for the park since I have platinum CF passes and dining plan. I'm sure if they thought opening more big coasters would generate more revenue they'd be doing it.

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And yes, I get it, holiday events are for a whole different crowd.

 

This is sort of true but here are the maximum posted wait times for Afterburn the final 6 days of the event (a high capacity B&M running two trains)...

 

12/26: 1 hour

12/27: 1 hour

12/28: 1 hour

12/29: 1 hour

12/30: 50 minutes

12/31: 30 minutes

 

Boo Blasters also hit an hour most days and the Scrambler posted at 45 minutes on Saturday and Sunday. There was a ONE HOUR wait for the swings on the 26th and Troika peaked at 90 MINUTES almost daily this past week. There's clearly a heavy demand for rides and coasters during Winterfest and there aren't many options.

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I was there on 12/31 and Afterburn was all but a walk on most of the night. After Midnight we rode 6 times and never got out of our seats. The longest we waited was one train. Other rides in the park had lines but nothing really bad.

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Like I said, those are the MAXIMUM wait times each day and that was the slowest day of the week. Despite that, the wait time still hit 30 minutes which rarely happens ever on Afterburn aside from Haunt and busy Saturdays. I would fully expect it to be a walk-on between midnight and 1am. I would expect it to be a walk-on between midnight and 1am on a Scarowinds Saturday too. Basically everything is going to be by that time of night.

 

It also rained that day which I'm sure kept people away even though it eventually cleared up.

 

The ride had wait times of about an hour 4 of the last 5 operating days and you wanted to let me know that after midnight on the slowest day of the week it was a walk-on? I mean... okay. And?

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Okay.

 

But yeah, I would like to think that they'll see this and realize by these consistently insane wait times that there's a clear demand for more rides. The counterpoint would be that there's no need to open them since they're so busy anyway but I feel like at some point they guest experience might (hopefully) become a concern. There are only so many people that could wait an hour and a half for a Troika and not leave slightly turned off. More rides would also mean that they could extend their hours and (in theory) generate some more in-park spending.

 

I'm not even just talking about coasters. Why not open your other indoor interactive family ride with heat (which ticks all the boxes for a popular December attraction as evidenced by the daily hour long Boo Blasters line) or your other swing ride to cut down on the hour long wait for the other one?

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I am glad Copperhead Strike will operate during Winterfest next year. I think I read somewhere that Cedar Fair specifically requested that it be able to operate in colder temperatures, which I'm sure wasn't a problem for Mack since Helix and Blue Fire likely operate in temperatures much colder than the Carolinas experience anyway.

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I think I read somewhere that Cedar Fair specifically requested that it be able to operate in colder temperatures, which I'm sure wasn't a problem for Mack since Helix and Blue Fire likely operate in temperatures much colder than the Carolinas experience anyway.

 

Carowinds starts everything at or below 40 degrees anyway and they usually seem to keep the rides running even if it dips below that temperature later. Every coaster in the park has the ability to operate the majority of the time for Winterfest given the seasonal averages even if they do decide to follow their existing guidelines. They don't run the coasters because they don't want to run them. I've heard this rumor too but this supposed request seems mostly unnecessary.

 

That said, I'm glad they're running Copperhead Strike. Hopefully they don't pull a BGW and swap something out (like Afterburn).

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^ I can see that happening since it is on a dead end and it wasn't much (if anything) back there.

 

Due to the ride lines, its painfully obvious that they need something to spread the crowds out of the lines. Upon reflecting back, I think all the flat rides were actually open. With the demographic of the crowd I saw, I don't know if even opening up some more coasters would even help since I saw more families with kids who weren't tall enough for some of them (the coasters).

 

How are the coaster lines at the parks that have them open vs the flat ride lines?

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As these parks continue to release their calendars I continue to be surprised by the fact that nobody is willing to push that insanely-profitable Haunt season out to the next weekend (especially with Halloween being so late in the week).

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Cedar Fair has made it incredibly clear that they don't mind putting up Christmas decorations during Haunt. Kings Dominion's terrifying haunt event was a winter f*cking wonderland of holiday cheer when we were there.

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I think getting a head start on putting up lights is one thing during haunt since when they're off they're not really noticeable especially in the dark but giant ornaments, trees, wreathes I mean doesn't really look great next to things themed to death and horror

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but giant ornaments, trees, wreathes I mean doesn't really look great next to things themed to death and horror

 

They have made it abundantly clear that they don't care, didn't they put a skull on the big pixel-mapped tree or something last year?

 

Also, it was more of a general observation that wasn't just about Carowinds. Six Flags doesn't seem to be doing it either and we KNOW they don't care. I'm sure there's a reason for it but it seems weird to me since Haunt is such a cash cow.

 

Edit: Yeah, this picture was taken during Scarowinds (source: Carowinds Connection).

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^^ I only noticed the lights on Windseeker because my daughter's friend asked why it wasn't running. I guess I missed the rest of the Christmas decorations because we had our coaster blinders on.

 

Can't wait for March 23rd to get on Copperhead Strike.

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The 2019 operating hours are now up! https://www.carowinds.com/explore/calendar-and-hours

 

Awesome, thanks for posting. Looking forward to my annual May visit!

 

Hmmm Water park looks to remain with the 6 or 5pm closing in August and Septemeber instead of the 7pm closings of yesteryears. Also no full week of operations during Winterfest this year, however looks like they will open at 4 instead of 5 on Sundays this season and the 2pm openings will remain on Saturdays. I'm cool with.

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