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Raptor's bins are awful. Bins slow things down a little on every coaster but the log jam at the Raptor bins is ridiculous. If you sit in the front few rows it's almost impossible to put things in the bin and get back to your seat without chewing up at least 30 seconds, sometimes more.

 

Precisely. If CP did it right by allowing for a place to put your belongings for free before you get in line, I'd be all in for rides (especially Raptor) to go to a no loose article policy. That way, the line moves quicker and guests are happy that they didn't have to pay to place their loose articles somewhere.

 

The only problem with that is when a ride has a line that's more than 10 minutes and it's a hot day, I'll want something to drink while I'm standing in line.

 

I guess some people will never be satisfied.

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I would be all for having a pass system for lockers. Pay one price. Have a bank at all major rides and then just be able to use any before you get in line. Maybe scan a wristband or something.

 

 

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You can always do the Six Flags method too. Even on rides where you have to use a locker they still allow you to take your souvenir bottle into the station where they have numbered racks for them. Sure you still have a couple of people that need to put them up, but that is better than having half a train needing to use a bin. Or you can even go the Dollywood/Holiday World route and have the guests had their bottles to a op and have the op place them on the bottle rack.

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I think a way to convert Vortex into a floorless and make it quite a phenomenal ride would be to fully enclose it and add some crazy effects to some sort of theme. I think it's small enough that it could easily be done. imho

 

I think that would make it the worlds first indoor B&M?

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The money spent to enclose Vortex would be better spent on a brand new coaster while Vortex gets shipped to MiA and is greeted with brand new floorless trains and a can or two of paint.

 

But should Vortex get the floorless treatment while it's still at Carowinds (groan), presumably for the 2018 season, and with KD's Hurler getting RMC'd in 2018, I'm just wondering if the Carowinds Hurler will get a similar treatment for 2019 and would the two be near-identical?

 

And I'm still holding out for that GCI wooden coaster to take the place of Dinos Alive.

 

What's the latest on the fate of Yo-Yo?

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The best part about Vortex is the sinister noise it makes. Although I'm not a fan, I agree with others that its appeal is the gimmick of being a stand-up. Vortex isn't really bad, but it's really not good either. It's interesting how some coasters just don't stay contemporary, stand-up or not. I feel like the Carolina Cyclone, although extremely painful, will still have more character and maybe even more general public appeal than Vortex with or without new trains. It just doesn't seem like Carowinds would get a lot of return on their investment from such a mediocre and uninspiring transition. If Vortex goes floorless, you'll have the choice between two standard loopers within a hundred yards of each other. One with quirks and head bangs, but personality. One smooth and quick, but almost completely boring while sitting down. I agree with others that I think the line Vortex currently has is completely attributed to the typical floorless coaster loading issues.

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Just a quick update for those who don't have the time to stare at the camera all day. The Music Express, on the far right hand side, is going vertical currently and the foundations are being setup for the Top Scan and Wave Swinger. Cobra is looking nice as well.

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^^I would think Carowinds could find at least some value in a Vortex conversion. Considering that we have seen this conversion happen at both Cedar Point and Great America (a large park and a small park), I am sure that a medium park could also find enough marketing value in a ride to justify a conversion. You could say that Vortex may have the disadvantage of not being one of the main attractions as Mantis was to Cedar Point or Vortex was to Great America, but also Magic Mountain was able to market Revolution as new with new trains, and Revolution is not really the type of ride their target demographic goes for anymore.

 

I think it is more likely than not that Vortex East will get the floorless conversion at some time. For any size park, it is a cheap way to market a new-ish attraction. That would also make it the only standup left in the Cedar Fair chain. That conversion might also make Vortex the fourth best ride in the park (After the big three of Fury, Intimidator, and Afterburn).

 

^Or maybe put the Mack spinning cars on this thing? That would be amazing! It is just, I do not know if Mack would do that for B&M track, and I know Cedar Fair kind of likes to play it safe with intensity of coasters.

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If Vortex goes floorless, you'll have the choice between two standard loopers within a hundred yards of each other. One with quirks and head bangs, but personality. One smooth and quick, but almost completely boring while sitting down. I agree with others that I think the line Vortex currently has is completely attributed to the typical floorless coaster loading issues.

 

It will be interesting to see how this plays out at CGA since their "new" Patriot is just a few yards away from their Arrow looper Demon and if it will in fact make CF decide for or against the conversion at Carowinds. Rougarou was still an ear basher after becoming a floorless so I don't see much of a change in that aspect.

 

For being one of B&M's earliest stand up designs I think Vortex has a decent layout but now that the park is seeing bigger and better things coming maybe it's time to totally rethink the conversion and just remove it from the park.

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No but if I were a betting man then I'd assume that they'd open on March 25th.

 

Thanks, that would be perfect, that's what I'm hoping for.

 

Opening day has been announced.. It's March 25th. I would have been more confident if I had realized that it was "325". They're all about playing up the "325" thing.

 

Awesome, thank you! It's looking like I'll be able to get down there during opening week

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I'm the opposite with Rougarou. I can't believe they made such a terrible train wreck of a coaster so good just by changing the trains.

 

It's not ever going to be a top tier coaster (I mean, it's a B&M floorless), but I find it to be very smooth and a lot of fun. When you compare it to Mantis that's a minor miracle. Vortex isn't Rougarou though. Vortex has a really lame layout, I really hope they just use their new found a**load of spare parts for stand up trains to their advantage and just let it be.

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Add me to the list of people who like Rougarou and enjoy it significantly more than Mantis. And by that I mean on a typical 12 hour day in the park we ride Rougarou twice, sometimes three times. It never has a line and is decently smooth. I like that the layout isn't anything to write home about as I don't get dizzy or feel sick after. I'm prone to getting my ears smashed into those big restraints but have only gotten knocked once on it. I do hold my head a bit forward though - but I do that on a lot of rides just as a precaution. It in no way takes away from my enjoyment of the ride.

 

ETA: SO and I are both looking forward to Carowinds converting their stand-up to a floorless!

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I have not ridden roug, but i have mantis, and thought it was honestly fun. With vortex however, i hate that thing. its never worth riding and i always regret it if i do. And yes the lines are always because loading times. My absolute dream is to have it tossed over to MaAdv and we get a launched infinity. One could easily fit, but seeing cedar fair has only done a few things with Gerstlauer, i doubt it.

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  • 2 weeks later...

Hours have been posted

 

A few things of note...

 

- Opening day is 3/25. They love that 325 thing... lol

 

- Scarowinds starts on September 15th.

 

- Winterfest Starts November 24th and will run Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays with the exceptions of New Years Eve and Christmas Eve and will be open daily from December 15th through December 30th with the exceptions of Christmas and Christmas Eve. Hours have not yet been posted for Wintefest.

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Carowinds on a weekday is the Dorney of the South. Carowinds on a Saturday though... god help you.

 

Went to carowinds the weekend after Fourth of July, and there was little crowds. Water park was decent since it was brutally hot. Longest wait was maybe 10 minutes for intimidator.

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