Nickelodeon Universe / American Dream Discussion Thread

[A.J.]

I'm excited to see what else they end up putting into the park! Nick Universe at the Mall of America has crammed in a lot and that has been over the course of many years... It'll be interesting to see what the developers do when designing a new park like this from scratch and how much space they'll leave for future additions.

I really don't know how much free space there will be as rent is going to be exorbitant. I hopefully, but not expecting it.

If you have a clever design team, space will never be an issue. What will make or break the potential for expansion is how much leeway they give themselves in regard to the behind-the-scenes stuff - good spots for future structural foundations, an electrical system that can handle much more than they will be using when the park opens, and the like.

[thrillseeker4552]

This looks great. The Takabisha clone looks awesome, but I have a feeling that Gerstlauer spinner will be the underdog here. What a crazy layout, especially for a spinning coaster!

[larrygator]

I'm excited to see what else they end up putting into the park! Nick Universe at the Mall of America has crammed in a lot and that has been over the course of many years... It'll be interesting to see what the developers do when designing a new park like this from scratch and how much space they'll leave for future additions.

I really don't know how much free space there will be as rent is going to be exorbitant. I hopefully, but not expecting it.

If you have a clever design team, space will never be an issue. What will make or break the potential for expansion is how much leeway they give themselves in regard to the behind-the-scenes stuff - good spots for future structural foundations, an electrical system that can handle much more than they will be using when the park opens, and the like.

 

I wouldn't disagree with you, but being in a enclosed area will make expansion much more difficult if the room for expansion is not already set aside. Leaving empty floor space in such a high rent mall will initially hurt margins and they need to take in money from the beginning.

Edited October 13, 2018 by larrygator

[A.J.]

That's true, but as long as the behind-the-scenes work is sorted they could work in more tracked rides, like additional roller coasters or a flume ride. Plus, there are other flat rides that they could do. They could elevate loading areas above existing pathways, like Moreys' Flying Skooters or Tivoli Gardens' Star Flyer, so long as a ride only requires a single central foundation.

[larrygator]

That's true, but as long as the behind-the-scenes work is sorted they could work in more tracked rides, like additional roller coasters or a flume ride. Plus, there are other flat rides that they could do. They could elevate loading areas above existing pathways, like Moreys' Flying Skooters or Tivoli Gardens' Star Flyer, so long as a ride only requires a single central foundation.

 

I know, myself and many others were shocked when Nick Universe at MOA added Spongebob.

[Rollercoaster Rider]

That's true, but as long as the behind-the-scenes work is sorted they could work in more tracked rides, like additional roller coasters or a flume ride. Plus, there are other flat rides that they could do. They could elevate loading areas above existing pathways, like Moreys' Flying Skooters or Tivoli Gardens' Star Flyer, so long as a ride only requires a single central foundation.

 

I know, myself and many others were shocked when Nick Universe at MOA added Spongebob.

 

Even before, People were shocked when they added Fairly Odd Coaster

[jedimaster1227]

I know, myself and many others were shocked when Nick Universe at MOA added Spongebob.

 

My point exactly. The park was already fairly dense before Nick Universe took over and yet they were able to add a good deal including two coasters, a few new flat rides and the ropes course, all within the existing footprint of park's borders. I'm very curious to see if American Dream is being designed with such feasibility in mind... Growing demand (or waning demand) will justify expansion over the years, and since the park can't likely build out beyond their structural borders, they'll have to be able to build into the footprint they've already littered with attractions from the start.

[gerstlaueringvar]

^Or buy some of their rides in portable models so they can just swap them out when ridership drops.

[HeyItsKrabs]

Does anyone know if the 2019 opening will include that ferris wheel that was announced back in 2009? It's the one part of the complex that I have heard about for next year's opening and it's looking more and more likely to me that it'll be cancelled.

[larrygator]

The Observation Wheel is still prominently featured on their website

[HeyItsKrabs]

Ahhhh, I've been checking for the Pepsi wheel and nothing's been coming up. Guess that sponsorship was dropped.

[larrygator]

rcdb is now showing a 3rd coaster at Nickelodeon Universe, a Chance Family coaster.

 

And this shows up at IAAPA.

Sure looks like a Nickelodeon paintjob

Edited November 14, 2018 by larrygator

[SixFlagsAstroworld]

Looking closer I actually see the “slime splat” decoration on it too

[coasterbill]

We now have water slides and blue coaster track which seems to indicate a fourth coaster.

 

Source: NJ.com

[Canobie Coaster]

That track style looks like EuroFighter track (you can see the green track in the background). Could they possibly be using two different track colors for the Takabisha clone? The coaster really does feel like two coasters spliced together so it wouldn't shock me.

[A.J.]

Apparently the blue coaster is a small Intamin along the lines of Playland's Gale Force (small-footprint multi-launch with inversions). Some social media people have been calling it a "short loop".

[Canobie Coaster]

Thanks, I just looked it up. Having a surprise Intamin is always a plus.

[larrygator]

rcdb is now showing a Surfrider model along with an LSM, both from Intamin.

 

Whether or not you consider the Surfrider a coaster or not, even two more big rides at this point are surprising.

Edited November 20, 2018 by larrygator

[Satans Hockey]

Those water slides look fun, I'm curious to see what season pass prices will be for these places.

[AmyUD06]

$5,000 if they have any hope of turning a profit within the first decade.

[xVicesAndVirtues]

Holy f*ck, two more coasters, one of which is going to be an Intamin LSM launched.

 

I know the info is super early and all that, but it would be so cool if it was a "Blitz Coaster" a la Maverick and many other incredible rides from them.

[Jew]

$5,000 if they have any hope of turning a profit within the first decade.

 

I think it will. Accounting isn't as simple as "we spent X amount of money on the place, so we don't turn a profit until we've made X amount of money back."

[coasterbill]

Brit and I thought that the surf rider at Mall of America was a blast. It was the sleeper hit of the day for us. I’d love one of those.

[grsupercity]

Brit and I thought that the surf rider at Mall of America was a blast. It was the sleeper hit of the day for us. I’d love one of those.

 

We were there about a month ago and between nick universe and valleyfair Avatar was our favorite ride

[coasterbill]

Brit and I thought that the surf rider at Mall of America was a blast. It was the sleeper hit of the day for us. I’d love one of those.

 

We were there about a month ago and between nick universe and valleyfair Avatar was our favorite ride

 

I wouldn't go that far but I could see it. It's a ton of fun.

 

Well... actually I can't see it but if Log Chute were to randomly explode or disappear into a black hole leaving the rest of the planet perfectly intact then yeah, sure.