Moose Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 ^ I hate that franchise for unleashing Zac Efron on the world. **Shudder** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeemerBoy Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 ^ Why stop there? I'd include the whole cast, the crew, the extras, the agents, the movie theater owners, and even the caterer. Â But hey, Larry's right. Disney struck gold and they're riding it until it runs its course. Success is measured in dollars. Â If you'll excuse me, I'm going to check the line in Vegas on which HSM star ends up in rehab first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIP Psyclone Posted December 21, 2007 Author Share Posted December 21, 2007 How are you defining worst franchise? Â Because Disney has always been about producing stuff the whole family can enjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeemerBoy Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 Because Disney has always been about producing stuff the whole family can enjoy. Â Like Pulp Fiction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIP Psyclone Posted December 21, 2007 Author Share Posted December 21, 2007 Because Disney has always been about producing stuff the whole family can enjoy. Â Like Pulp Fiction. Â Under the Disney banner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeemerBoy Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 ^ I know what you're getting at, but I couldn't resist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfc Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 I didn't find the last National Treasure flick to be all that "family unfriendly," unless you're counting brain damage to kids because of its fairly dumb (if somewhat entertaining) story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primogen18 Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 How are you defining worst franchise? Â Because Disney has always been about producing stuff the whole family can enjoy. Â We need a Bad Santa overlay on a ride for the holiday season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrygator Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 Because Disney has always been about producing stuff the whole family can enjoy. Â Like Pulp Fiction. Â Under the Disney banner. Â So what are the best franchises under the Disney banner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfc Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 ^Good question--Disney's strongest franchise is the POTC series, yet I wouldn't call them cuddly family flicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 I hate when people use the "Disney is supposed to be something THE WHOLE FAMILY CAN ENJOY" crutch, as if something as innocuous and inoffensive as High School Music doesn't follow the Disney standards because a certain segmentation of the market enjoys it more than others. By that logic, let's trash Cars because it appeals more to young boys, Cinderella and every princess movie because it appeals to girls, Pirates because it's for older kids and adults, etc. etc. Â Besides RIP Psyclone, shouldn't you love HSM...I mean it has girls in high school, dood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIP Psyclone Posted December 21, 2007 Author Share Posted December 21, 2007 To Larry: The Black Hole & Tron  Okay, Toy Story, definately. I'd say POTC but you're probably going to argue that it's not 100% family friendly.  You do have a point about High School Musical, I just think it's un-Disney that older viewers, like myself, would rather watch paint dry. Even the very subject of high school does alienate some people.  To Wes: Yet, I don't. Go figure! Just like you don't like CSI: NY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 Again, I don't think Disney is directly marketing to 20-30 year old unmarried males with HSM. I'm sure there's a segment of adults who likes HSM, and probably quite a few parents enjoy it. With how sterile and inoffensive it is, yet still being popular to the tween/teen market, that's pretty much the definition of a GREAT family franchise. Popular with a hard to reach teen demographic while still maintaining a squeeky clean aura that absolutely can't be seen as offensive to the parents, who are the actual buyers of all the merchandise? Do you even realize how rare that is? Â Sure, some people may hate the high school subject, or the ridiculously lame songs, but some people probably hate pirates and talking toys that come to life, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfc Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 ^^Hmm--based on the examples you cite, it looks like Disney has all the age groups and both genders pretty well covered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIP Psyclone Posted December 21, 2007 Author Share Posted December 21, 2007 The real test here is how well the sequel performs. The first film, although successful, was not quite the mega blockbuster that should be required to be the basis of a ride. It didn't even break $200 million domestically. So...how well will the sequel do? I have felt just about zero buzz for this film. And what are the critics saying? Over on rottentomatoes.com it has a 31% rating, which is "rotten." 69% of critics did not like it. The ones who did didn't give it glowing reviews, either. Â Looks like Mr. Cage is going to have to go hide in embarrassment, and pretend he never put forth the proposition in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraken613 Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 I just saw the movie. It was really good! It was a fitting sequel and I would bet money that theres ggoing to be a third. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpengeist04 Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 ^^I guess it depends on what your definition of "buzz" is. It's been all over TV since Thanksgiving, that includes the TV guide channel, Disney channel, and the trailers on every other channel. Â As for the performance of the movie, I won't make any predictions, but I can tell you that the theatres down here were packed today. ...even more than 'I am Legend' last week. I couldn't believe how many seniors went to see it today, but it is Florida after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIP Psyclone Posted December 22, 2007 Author Share Posted December 22, 2007 ^You know, you're right. I never thought about it that way before, but it is sort of an action movie for the older crowd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticky Nicky Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 Just got back from the new movie and as I was watching, I was thinking that if the ride concept came true, it would be a lot like Indiana Jones ride, like I predicted in my first post. BTW, the movie was alright, but some scenes look a lot like the first movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitdumont1128 Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 I just got back from NT:BoS and I enjoyed very much. I agree that the ending is very exciting and could easily be made into a ride, and the National Treasure series is not minor. I mean it even opened it up to become a trilogy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 The real test here is how well the sequel performs. The first film, although successful, was not quite the mega blockbuster that should be required to be the basis of a ride. It didn't even break $200 million domestically. So...how well will the sequel do? I have felt just about zero buzz for this film. Â Here are the box office reports from DHD, which is a very reputable site... Â FRIDAY PM: I have very early box office numbers for the top two movies of this overcrowded pre-Christmas weekend. Sources tell me that Disney / Buena Vista's mystery thriller National Treasure 2 opened to at least $15.5 million (and possibly as much as $17 million) at Friday's box office from 3,832 theaters. That's right in line with predictions for this sequel Book Of Secrets to jump into the No. 1 spot with over $50 million for the weekend. It's a much bigger haul than the $35.1 mil debut of the 2004 original National Treasure (which went on to make $173M domestic gross and $347M worldwide total and snag Oren Aviv his promotion to president of production for the Walt Disney Pictures Group). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnewton34 Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 The real test here is how well the sequel performs. The first film, although successful, was not quite the mega blockbuster that should be required to be the basis of a ride. It didn't even break $200 million domestically. So...how well will the sequel do? I have felt just about zero buzz for this film. And what are the critics saying? Over on rottentomatoes.com it has a 31% rating, which is "rotten." 69% of critics did not like it. The ones who did didn't give it glowing reviews, either. Â Looks like Mr. Cage is going to have to go hide in embarrassment, and pretend he never put forth the proposition in the first place. Â I never listen to what critics say. They're pretty much morons when it comes to what the general public likes. What you need to look at is how the users rate it. And they rate it at 71% rating, which is quite good or "fresh" as they say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
californiascreamer1 Posted December 22, 2007 Share Posted December 22, 2007 I would seriously doubt that it could work. Look at the way disney themes their rides. In my opinion it would come out really strange and not as most would expect. We will just wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackskellington101 Posted December 23, 2007 Share Posted December 23, 2007 ^ I don't see how it would be that strange. All a National Treasure ride would be is a tweaked version of Indiana Jones. Especially seeing the most recent one this weekend, the movie would work very well as a temple excursion type ride, similar to the Indy temples. I could definitely see it working, especially if Disney wants to keep to their own licenses and not go out to Lucas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIP Psyclone Posted December 31, 2007 Author Share Posted December 31, 2007 Well folks, I may have to stand corrected. On its 2nd weekend of release, NT:BoS took in $35,632,000 bringing its grand total in North America to $124,035,000. It brought in $44,783,772 its opening weekend, meaning the drop in business from 1st to 2nd weekend is a mere 20.2%. Many films, even popular, successful ones often have a 50% 2nd weekend drop in ticket sales. Add the foreign box office as it continues to be released internationally, Mr. Cage may end up with a good case for a ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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