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P. 150: Kangaroo, Paratrooper, Bayern Kurve and Volcano being retired

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Are there any rumors cooking for Kennywood this year? It seems like the park's management hasn't been putting a lot into the park recently which is a shame. I grew up going to kennywood and on my last visit earlier this summer a lot of the buildings had peeling paint or hadn't been improved despite the fact that they really stood out as needing some tlc. I'm hoping my favorite park starts to get some attention again. Kennywood really has a special niche market, it combines quirky old-fashioned charm with modern thrill rides. Honestly, I think they could be much more competitive if they worked more with their history and personality and started putting more unique, quirky rides in and advertising the unique character of the park as opposed to trying to fit in with larger parks like Hershey and Cedar Point. In a way it seems to be a lot like BPPB in England... struggling to maintain an identity by adding modern thrill rides but not really working with their history to create something unique. They both peaked in the 90's, but since then it seems like they kind of just stopped trying. I'd love to see kennywood reallllly focus on its history, atmosphere, and quirky personality and use that to market to a broader audience. Also- it wouldn't hurt to hire a designer to update their classic logo just a bit. Not a lot... but just a bit.

 

They just recently purchased some more land.......hopefully for expansion.

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I'll be happy when they finally bring back the Old Mill. Kick Garfield out!

 

Agreed! But didn't their licensing agreement with Garfield expired? I really much rather see Kennywood retheme bring back the "Old Mill" and give Garfield the boot!

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I'll be happy when they finally bring back the Old Mill. Kick Garfield out!

 

Agreed! But didn't their licensing agreement with Garfield expired? I really much rather see Kennywood retheme bring back the "Old Mill" and give Garfield the boot!

 

Anything would be better than Garfield. I never got a chance to experience the Old Mill and was really depressed to see how random and poorly done Garfield was. Something like Playland's Ye Old Mill would be a much better fit for Kennywood.

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^Here is a slide show that will give you an idea of what the ride was like pre-Garfield. Some of the scenes are a little tough to make out due to the protective fences, however when riding the fences where barely noticeable.

 

 

 

Other then the goofy Garfield cutouts. The major differences are that there where pass byes for the boats and outdoor scenes with skeletons. I really missed those after they reworked the ride. They also moved the queue to the interior yard of the ride which was the only change I likes.

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Went to kennywood for the first time saturday, had a great time, 7PM-1AM actually was a nice time frame for a haunt event. The lines weren't bad(with the clear exception being haunt attractions) but their VIP coaster tour(fast pass) for only 10$ was really nice and allowed for a more leisurely paced time. Got to ride my first bayern curve, and kangaroo flat. Will want to return to try out the rapids and flume plus the missed kiddie credit if possible.

 

Really was impressed by Phantom's Revenge, guess i wasn't expecting much from an arrow/morgan frankenstein but very awesome. Also Jack Rabbit's Oh $h!t moment was unexpected, backrow ride was excellent, not cyclops airtime but wasn't expecting anything like that. Great park, great rides, ride operators could use a mathematics class though.

 

Also not sure if it's been posted or not GIANT EAGLE is selling $27 dollar tickets for this event, plus you don't have to wait in line at the park open since nothing was open until 7:00:00. Great times, will be back.

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Ok, so this picture is kind of bothering me. If Steel Phantom was built in 1991 and Lost Kennywood in 1995, why is there no Steel Phantom in the background of this shot?? Am I missing something glaringly obvious or was the Phantom just shopped out or something?

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^ I browse a Kennywood fan site from time to time. I believe the actual owner of the site is also a TPR member.

 

However, not much has been announced for the park at this point from reading there. The only known project I have seen is this:

 

The Thunderbolt roller coaster at Kennywood in West Mifflin, PA currently runs three trains built by the National Amusement Device Company (NAD). The trains used to be equipped with on-board headlights as seen in the image on the left.

 

Vibrations and fatigue eventually led to the headlights' removal. For the park's 100th anniversary in 1998, Kennywood restored the headlight system, but once again it proved too difficult to maintain.

 

In the fall of 2013, the Penn State Theme Park Engineering Group drafted a proposal to once again restore the headlight system.

 

Members of PSU TPEG spent many hours doing research on lighting and electrical systems. We proposed the use of light-emitting diode (LED) lighting for the two headlights near the top of the train's front end. In addition, current PSU TPEG president Chris Duarte designed three front grilles with the signature Thunderbolt 'T' (one for each train) which will be machined and installed where the third headlight would have been - front and center.

 

As of October of 2013, Kennywood has chosen to proceed with PSU TPEG's proposal for a new headlight system. We expect the restored headlight system to be operational on the Thunderbolt trains in time for Kennywood's 2014 operating season.

 

Click on this link for images

 

http://www.psuthemeparkengineering.com/kennywood-thunderbolt.html

 

May are hoping though for a refurb or The Ark and Old Mill (AKA: Garfield's Nightmare) or the return of the Turnpike. Those would all be great projects for an off year of new rides.

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I agree that it would be nice to see the headlights on the Thunderbolt's trains. That being said, Verbolten's trains at BGW have headlights, and their operations seem hit or miss.

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I could not agree more Larry.

 

I think the initial plan for The Ark's renovation this last time was an interesting one. To bad they had to cut the budget and some scenes due to having to reallocate the fund for rebuilding the actual ark. If what was planned happened, it would have been OK at the very least. Also, I am not sure what ever made them to decide to put the mechanical where they did on the finale with no real maintainable access. Kind of a stupid move like WDW did with the Yeti on Everest from what I have read.

 

As far as the Old Mill, I just wish they would remove Garfield, restore the outside and pass by scenes. I do not think this ride needs to be much more complicated then the original skeleton stunts. Every time I ride PoTC at Disneyland, I keep thinking that the first half of the ride would be great for the Old Mill. Of course scaled down a bit from the Disney detail. I understand though that some of Pittsburgh's finest where utilizing it for smoking weed and such and thus why the owning family at the time decided to try to make it a kids ride and be able to keep it. There was a Vekoma SLC hang and bang slated for to replace it at one point. Looks like they moved the concept a little and ended up with a Premier coaster instead.

 

Many are hoping for the Turnpike to return in the Phantoms first drop area. This was the area that has nothing in it now and was used for a centennial midway or something like that for one season. Personally, I think that is a bad idea and would distract from the Turnpike experience. I would prefer them find a nice wooded area like non-dancing fountains or towards the back of the Log Jammer. There is a lot of potential there with a few bridges and such.

 

As far as the unused space in the Phantoms drop. I would think a nice drop tower like Waldameer has would be perfect there now that their second gen Intamin is gone.

 

Sorry for the long post.

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^I've always loved the flat speed section after Phatom's first drop, in both incarnations. Both times they announced a double-up would go there, and both times they didn't end up putting it in. I just scanned some pictures from 1991, thought I would share them. Enjoy

 

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You can see the torch marks where a mistake was made (on the white block connecting the track to the vertical support). Arrow had those sometimes, oops:

 

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Bunch more here: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.425316430927328.1073741831.178752772250363&type=3

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Ah yes, that's what I remember most of the old version. Not that it was painful, but that it went through way too fast, you really didnt even know the loops were there when you went through them. I was much more disoriented than feeling any sort of pain. Hmm, maybe I was just knocked senseless. It must have been hell on the track too, I would imagine.

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