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P. 150: Kangaroo, Paratrooper, Bayern Kurve and Volcano being retired

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The reason for the postponed opening is Allegheny County initiated a temporary one-week pause on gatherings of more than 25 effective today, July 3rd. So they might still be selling tickets for the 11th because it's the first day they're outside that one-week pause window.

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This has been standard operating procedure for years. It's not like if they recover costs they'll stop doing every possible thing to run their parks as poorly as possible and remove as many rides / be

Bayern Kurve is indeed my favorite flat ride... so naturally was disturbed about Kennywood's actions. It has come full circle since I "lost" my Kurves at Cedar Point, Kings Island, Geauga Lake, Canada

I totally get the maintenance nightmare aspect of many of these rides, but especially with a ride that is so historic and helps you claim to be a national historic landmark, figure something out!  Ask

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Guess this will be the new trend of lawsuits for this year...

 

https://triblive.com/local/westmoreland/parents-sue-kennywood-sandcastle-idlewild-over-mask-requirements/

 

The parents of four children with medical conditions are suing Kennywood, Sandcastle Waterpark and Idlewild & SoakZone, contending their ownership violated federal law and Pennsylvania Health Department coronavirus orders by requiring all patrons to wear face masks.

 

The federal lawsuit contends that Palace Entertainment, parent company of the parks, has denied the plaintiffs and their children access to its parks in violation of the Americans with Disabilities Act and Pennsylvania Health Department directives.

 

The children have medical conditions that prevent them from wearing masks, according to the lawsuit.

 

It seeks punitive and compensatory damages and an injunction forcing Palace to amend its policy and accommodate people with medical conditions.

 

Kennywood spokesman Nick Paradise said corporate policy prohibited him from commenting on pending litigation.

 

Pittsburgh attorney Thomas Anderson, who has filed similar lawsuits against Giant Eagle over mask requirements and represents the four plaintiffs, could not be reached for comment.

 

He filed the complaint Friday on behalf of Janine Wood of Bolivar, Jackie Webber of Kennedy Township, Ryan Walsh of Verona and Lisa Mazzoni of Irwin.

 

“Guests who cannot wear masks for medical reasons are denied full and equal access to the parks,” the lawsuit said. “Plaintiffs have each been denied full and equal access to the parks in violation of Title III of the ADA.”

 

It also contends that the parks are violating Pennsylvania Health Department orders, which provide an exemption to mask requirements for people with medical conditions.

 

On Tuesday, Wood was denied access to Idlewild when she attempted to enter the park with her daughter, according to the lawsuit.

 

“Idlewild security guards prevented entry and screamed at the child, causing her to have a mental breakdown and to break out in hives due to anxiety,” the complaint said.

 

Anderson has filed numerous lawsuits against Giant Eagle on behalf of clients from across the region, alleging its mask policy is discriminatory under the disability act.

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what idiot parents

 

A simple question: Did they know, or not know, that masks were required NO EXCEPTIONS.....?

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If the kids medical conditions are severe enough that they can NOT wear a mask when a private business is requiring them then maybe they should not be out during a pandemic... just saying.

 

I really hope our judicial system starts to throw these cases out as quickly as they're being filed so we're not setting dangerous precedents.

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Look - we don't know how long this is going to go on. Could be years. Are we going to deprive the people that can't wear masks due to medical conditions (such as Asthma) the right to enjoy amusement parks? If so - where does it stop? Should they not be able to go to gyms as well?

 

Lawyers have done fantastic work for the medically unable and I hope they don't stop now.

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^ Yes, that's absolutely what we do. If you're took sick to wear a mask you shouldn't be out in a pandemic. This isn't rocket science.

 

Masks work. Look at asian countries. Americans need to learn to respect their fellow Americans instead of throwing tantrums at mild inconveniences.

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^ Yes, that's absolutely what we do. If you're took sick to wear a mask you shouldn't be out in a pandemic. This isn't rocket science.

 

Masks work. Look at asian countries. Americans need to learn to respect their fellow Americans instead of throwing tantrums at mild inconveniences.

 

So kids with asthma are no longer allowed at Kennywood? Is that your stance?

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The question wasn't being asked of me, but yes, that is the case if this kid with asthma's breathing is so negatively affected by a piece of cloth over his face that he absolutely cannot wear one. I would argue that if a kid has asthma that badly, he probably shouldn't be going on any amusement rides which increase your heart and breathing rates, but that's neither here nor there. Hint: bandanas wrapped around your nose that do not restrict your mouth or airflow to your nose DO count as a "face covering" for these parks' requirements.

 

It sucks for that kid, but better for it to suck for that kid than not have the parks open at all, which given certain state governors' decrees and popular opinion that masks will save us all, that is what it comes down. If they allowed non-maskers to be non-masked for any reason, even a "legitimate"/"medical" reason, that would defeat the entire mask system and no one should be required to wear a mask. I don't personally buy into the "masks will save us all" theory, but for it to work, you need 100% compliance.

 

Don't be mad at Kennywood for following the mandates of their dictatorial governor's orders that says if you're in a public gathering you have to wear a mask - be mad at Governor Wolf for making that rule. Don't be mad at Cedar Fair for requiring masks at their Ohio parks even though their counties/state aren't requiring it - be mad at your fellow human beings for believing that masks are the be-all, end-all in fighting this "horrible pandemic."

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So kids with asthma are no longer allowed at Kennywood? Is that your stance?

 

You're kidding me, right? COVID-19 is a respiratory disease. Kids with asthma should be taking greater measures to guard themselves against catching the virus than the average person. They certainly should not be going to an amusement park until the pandemic is under control, however long that takes.

 

I'm sure you would agree a sad kid stuck at home is better off than a kid in the ICU struggling to breathe.

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Yeah, I know there is no way to necessarily get everyone to see eye-to-eye on this. But the reality is that even with *significant* measures taken, 140k people have died from this in the last 105 days (likely more). The flu never kills 1.3k people/day for the whole flu season. That would be 120k people.

 

Moreover, the premise that testing alone has resulted in us having more cases is misguided at best. Wouldn't you like to know who has this and how many people are dying from it? If more folks have it, more folks will end up being tested. South Korea had the testing capacity available to do a ton of tests when it *WAS* there, so they could still be doing loads of tests now. But they're not. Because they kicked it in the butt and there isn't anyone that needs tested.

 

And the mask situation is obviously unfortunate for those that cannot wear. But the issue with Americans is we have a freedom complex. One person goes in with their kid w/o a mask and everyone else in the park feels entitled to do the same thing. It's your right to not wear a mask, but certainly Kennywood's right to say, "Not on property." I don't what else really needs to be said about it that isn't just treading the same water again and again.

 

On another note, has anyone been on the new Old Mill? I didn't really want to watch the POV, but I've heard mention that it is a bit bare? I know it is challenging with the long narrow hallways to really fill the space properly.

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Don't be mad at Cedar Fair for requiring masks at their Ohio parks even though their counties/state aren't requiring it - be mad at your fellow human beings for believing that masks are the be-all, end-all in fighting this "horrible pandemic."

 

I don't think anyone is saying that masks are an ironclad, catch-all solution for stopping the virus in its tracks. But they certainly help lessen the chances of being infected, and I like my chances better of not contracting the illness if there's something in front of mine and everyone else's faces preventing water droplets and aerosols from transmitting person to person, versus wearing nothing at all. Seatbelts won't 100% protect you from dying in a car accident, but people still wear them because they greatly increase your chances of surviving a car accident.

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Sure, and that's fine. All I was saying with my post is place the blame on amusement park mask policies where they are due - the government and/or the populace, not the parks' management.

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Ok ok... Back to regularly scheduled programming, if that's ok?!

 

Does anyone have any info on Steel Curtain's opening? I have a trip planned for Aug. 6th. Hoping for a opening by then.

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^ I was at the park on Monday, and someone informed me that they were waiting for clearance from the state and were hoping to have it open later this week. I didn’t see any activity in the station all day, though. But that’s what I was told.

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Check this page on their website.

  • Steel Curtain
  • Black Widow
  • Bayern Kurve
  • Paddle Boats
  • Paratrooper
  • Turtle
  • Pittsburg Plunge
  • Lil' Phantom (Kiddieland)

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Thanks! I looked on their website at first and couldn't find it. I'm tentatively planning to head up there in a couple weeks...hopefully Steel Curtain will be running by then

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Oh glad they got that!

Won't lie...didn't have a great experience here and only plan to go this year for Steel Curtain.

Any locals know...has it been generally closed this year?

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Steel Curtain did start testing this past week. Looking like it could be any time now.

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