atem122 Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 Why would that be a smart idea at all? You don't underpromote something you've spent millions on, they could care less about wait times, they're putting it in there to make money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingsdominionlvr Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 I was just guessing, what do you think they will do to cut down on lines with the total ride capacity so low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelTheFORCE Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 But the capacity thought was my first thought too, there's no way in hell you can keep a line running efficiently with 2, 12 people trains The same was said about Fahrenheit, and it seems to be doing just fine. Also, Back Lot Stunt Coasters (a Premier coaster) use 12 person trains and the line is constantly moving, even when only using 2 trains. There are 3 BLSCs, so this isn't Premier's "first rodeo," if you will. Also, Kennywood isn't a huge park. Some of you act like they are going to be dealing with Cedar Point-type crowds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atem122 Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 ^That is true about KW being a small park, but I've head Fahrenheit has a slow moving line...of course I've never been within an 1000 mile radius of HP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xChris125x Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 With a mid course break and a final break run, I don't see why they can't have three trains. I really hope the park has a plan to keep the line moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastn07 Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 For those so worried about capacity, you seem to forget about Phantom's Revenge's first season. They operated with one train all season long (28 riders) and it's a full minute and ten seconds longer than the new coaster. I really don't see the issue with the capacity. I just hope the park purchases another train down the line just in case one of the other trains acts up. It would be really bad if the coaster ever has to operate with only one train during its first season. With a mid course break and a final break run, I don't see why they can't have three trains. I really hope the park has a plan to keep the line moving. You need one more block than you have trains in every coaster. This is a safety measure to ensure there is one empty block between each train to prevent crashes. Why don't people know this??? The same was said about Fahrenheit, and it seems to be doing just fine. Also, Back Lot Stunt Coasters (a Premier coaster) use 12 person trains and the line is constantly moving, even when only using 2 trains. There are 3 BLSCs, so this isn't Premier's "first rodeo," if you will. Also, Kennywood isn't a huge park. Some of you act like they are going to be dealing with Cedar Point-type crowds. That might be true with two trains, but with one train its slow as molasses. I would know, this happened to me the last time I was at Kings Island and it wasn't even crowded. And while Kennywood might not be a huge park, you're forgetting about the crowds Phantom's Revenge pulled its first year or so. I remember waiting 2-3 hours to get on it the first season maybe even more. While the one train op might have contributed to the long lines, the park definitely pulled big crowds that season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelTheFORCE Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 Here's the Post Gazette article with a computer layout picture. http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09224/990324-455.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xChris125x Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 ^I was think the launch stretch counted as a block too. guess not. Yes, Phantom's Revenge did run one train it's first season. i also waited 2+ hrs. evertime I rode it....not cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atem122 Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 ^^That honestly just looks like a really bad recreation of Wicked I hope those are just NL errors (i.e pumps and bumps) and that it really doesnt look anything like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xChris125x Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 That's just a horrible rendidtion. I mean it's not even custom supports. Garbage. C'mon KP, you can do better than THAT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingsdominionlvr Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 Eek, that does not look good. Hopefully, that is just a bad, rushed recreation Kennywood did to get it out to the press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyingcoasterfreak Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 Wait until they build the thing before passing judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastn07 Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 Whoever made that recreation in No Limits should really be ashamed of themselves. Rest assured guys, the coaster isn't really going to look like that. It looks a lot different (and nicer!) in the images provided by Premier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingsdominionlvr Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 Whoever made that recreation in No Limits should really be ashamed of themselves. Rest assured guys, the coaster isn't really going to look like that. It looks a lot different (and nicer!) in the images provided by Premier. Can we see these images provided by Premier, or get a link to them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrygator Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 If you step back and look at the points many of you are debating and arguing over the last couple of pages you can easily see why coaster enthusiasts have a bad reputation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastn07 Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 Whoever made that recreation in No Limits should really be ashamed of themselves. Rest assured guys, the coaster isn't really going to look like that. It looks a lot different (and nicer!) in the images provided by Premier. Can we see these images provided by Premier, or get a link to them? No, what the park and the news released is all you get (or until more is released)...I was just fortunate to see some of the other stuff. Honestly, the picture below is probably the most accurate, I just can't seem to find a larger image of it. http://www.post-gazette.com/images4/20090812brk_kennywood_newride2_160_a.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingsdominionlvr Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 ^Oh, thanks for that picture, looks pretty cool to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattMattMatt Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 Sounds good. Kennywood is one of the loveliest parks I've ever set foot in so as long as it doesn't really hurt the surrounding atmosphere I'm really fine with whatever they build. This doesn't sound like something worth traveling for except that it will make the lines longer for all the stuff that is worth traveling for! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Johnson Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 I love Kennywood, I am really happy that they are getting a new coaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KPfreak519 Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 I wouldn't worry about that NL rendition, somebody at Kennywood probably downloaded it 2 days before the announcement, got a novice sense of the program and rushed a model of the ride to put out with the press release. Unfortunately I doubt they are going to put out a more accurate model, we're probably just gonna have to watch the construction progress to get a better sense of the layout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastn07 Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 I wouldn't worry about that NL rendition, somebody at Kennywood probably downloaded it 2 days before the announcement, got a novice sense of the program and rushed a model of the ride to put out with the press release. Unfortunately I doubt they are going to put out a more accurate model, we're probably just gonna have to watch the construction progress to get a better sense of the layout. No I'm pretty sure this renderings came from someone at Premier Rides or maybe even someone on the outside who was contacted to make a recreation. I really don't think some at Kennywood did this lol. But like I said, there are other images out there that depict this coaster more realistically and that's why I said the rendering is really bad. Also, I was really surprised at the lack of images and renderings the park put out there. For being such a major announcement you'd think they have a little more than 2-3 photos spread between the different news stations and a video that doesn't even show the entire layout. I know how the coaster is going to be positioned as well as what the entire layout is going to look like since I've seen other images and renderings of the ride, but it's really hard to get a feel for it just based on the stuff they've posted on the news so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolcalicoaster Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 Lots of people seem upset I think I am going to hold off my judgement till I give it a ride next year! I get excited anytime a new ride is built Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelTheFORCE Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 I wonder if one train will be black and gold to represent that Pittsburgh pride! I know they repainted a Jack Rabbit train black and gold for this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nowaymang Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 Glad to hear this is coming to my backyard! I don't understand why people are making judgment on something that's not even built yet, but oh well, somethings will always boggle me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy4Coasters! Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 ^ Sadly for some odd reason that seems to be a common occurrence. It just makes me laugh when people complain about something that's not even physically made yet. By the way your screen name reminds me of Razor Ramon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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