speedracer Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 First pics I've seen of the new bobsled cars coming to the Matterhorn: http://disneyparksinfo.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33 Will sure miss the inline seating, but that has allot to do with the necessity. Disney says too many riders choose to ride by themselves, so 4 riders per train was common, significantly reducing capacity. At least with the new configure, 6 per train will now be possible, reducing wait times. I'm thinking lap bars on this bumpy old Arrow track will sure be brutal on the legs though, ouch! Suppose be switched over on the next major refurb, so enjoy the fun old school bobsleds now while you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airforcekid Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 Meh.. How many times have they switched the trains now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedracer Posted November 13, 2007 Author Share Posted November 13, 2007 ^ And how many times have they switched out the much loved original 1959 inline bobsled seating arrangement? Or added unnecessary lap bars to a ride that has run fine without them for almost 50 years? Yeah, I guess you missed the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharkTums Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 The bigger question is how will this affect the height requirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XII Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 Boo!!! The cars they have now are perfect!!!! The cars they plan to have look brutal on the legs. If you are reading this Disney, Please don't put these trains on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socalMAN123 Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 They look...kind of ugly. Honestly though, I hope they will improve the ride because in some places, it can get pretty rough. ---Brent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 This is the new Matterhorn car like those green and blue color swatches on X was the new color scheme. That's all I'm saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedracer Posted November 14, 2007 Author Share Posted November 14, 2007 ^ Yeah, but all you need to do is look at WDW's Space Mountain to see how their original inline seating non-locking retraint rolling stock were modified, for the exact same reasons. This may not be the final shell design/colors/handlebars, but you can pretty much count on individual seating with lap bars being final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COASTER FREAK 11 Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 i hope they change the body of the cars, they really dont look that great. Also those seats look really cheap, like just plain plastic drop in seats. I really hope that they are doing more work on the design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nrthwnd Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 I miss the days when they originally ran them, one car at a time. I realize it's not practical nowadays. But still... (And the new cars do indeed, look rather...... plastic?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebl Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 Hmmm...I wasn't aware that the Matterhorn was getting new cars. This is the first I've heard of it. If in fact this is the case, it looks like you'll be sitting higher. Not good with some low tunnels... Somehow, going from eight riders per car to six seems like it would reduce capacity, which was the reason for the switch from the single sleds (1959-1977) to the ones now on the ride since 1978. My own problem with riding the Matterhorn is that with a serious lack of body padding in a certain area *AHEM*, the ride is just too bumpy. Maybe the new seating will afford a bit of the cushioning that I need. And, yes, the new bobsleds are...well, not very attractive... Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharkTums Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 I guess I'm in the minority here, but I don't think they look that bad. I don't think the cars they have now look that great either! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECZenith Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 I actually like the way they look, I'll have to go see them for myself tomorrow. I always thought the ride kind of hurt around some of the turns so maybe being secured in place will improve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfmmrules! Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 Does anyone know when the Matterhorn will be closed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Six Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 I think they look fine. I'm sure when they replaced the original cars with the ones they have now people thought they were odd as well. The only thing that might concern me is capacity dropping. -mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DATman Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 I love how everyone ignored Wes's comment, pretty much flat out saying that these are not appearing on the Matterhorn. Besides, I don't see the lapbars on the train. Am I blind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macro Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 I'm sure when they replaced the original cars with the ones they have now people thought they were odd as well.-mikeThat was definitely the case. The "good old bobsleds" were sleek and actually looked speedy. The "new ugly" bobsleds (the current ones) looked clunky with their big noses. The only thing I don't miss from the original bobsleds is the old safety strap. It was a thick belt with a bunch of grommet holes which you attached to a big hook on the opposite side of the bobsled. It looked like it could come off at any time. The newer seat belts at least are secure. If those pictures are real then this will be the bulbiest nose yet. I think I know where they got the idea for the shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoasterFanatic Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 I actually dig the "Captain's Chair" feel of Florida's Space Mountain and am looking forward to the next generation Matterhorn car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bettersteal Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 These new bobsleds don't look as aerodynamic as the old ones but they do look safer. I wish there were more of these kind of rides around. Other than this one and the Space Mountains I don't know of any. The bobsled like Avalanche at Kings Dominion is cool. I would like to get back to eastern PA to ride Flying Turns at Knoebels or Texas to ride La Vibora at SF Over Texas. I was disappointed with Disaster Transport at CP (too hot in there). I'm off the topic. I miss Matterhorn ! I was only twelve the last and only time we went to California. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCFreak Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 A big meh goes out to that particular design, I like the idea of theoretically adding capacity in the sense that many many people don't ride together anymore. And if it's just lap bars they should be able to get the trains going out faster for even less waiting and less chance of cascading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrillerman1 Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 Ick. I'm not digging the look of those cars at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECZenith Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 That bump in the back of the cars looks just like the WDW Space Mountain cars, I also like the feel of them and I think it will make the ride much more enjoyable no matter what the final design of the outside of the trains look like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COASTER FREAK 11 Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 Somehow, going from eight riders per car to six seems like it would reduce capacity, which was the reason for the switch from the single sleds (1959-1977) to the ones now on the ride since 1978.Eric I think they are looking at it this way. Most of the time, people do not ride in pairs. they ride single. meaning 2 per car. So doing it with 3 seats instead of 2 means a "potentially" higher capacity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECZenith Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 I would think it would definately move the queue faster. Almost everyone rides by themselves unless a parent is with a child or is small enough to fit right in front of the person they're with. The CMs running it will also no longer have to ask if the riders are going alone or in pairs saving a little extra time throughout the course of the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PURE Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 I definitely had higher expectations for Disney. The plastic makes them look like "Koala Bear Cares" diaper changing stations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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