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It's brilliant marketing to make something out of nothing, but it also opens up Disney to the criticism like the post you quoted.


I guess I don't see it as nothing. Obviously new effects aren't a completely new ride, but I have to disagree with this new ride or nothing mentality. What's been done to the Matterhorn recently isn't nothing. It isn't Cars Land but it isn't nothing. Same goes for new stuff in Indy, redone Space Mountain, redone Thunder Mountain, redone Star Tours, redone Small World, redone Pirates, Mansion + Hatbox, Astro Blasters, Nemo Subs, etc. Star Tours and Nemo Subs are almost completely new rides. Why shouldn't they be marketed? Even a ride on the train seems much better now than it was before with the new sound upgrades. All these things are not nothing to me because they all help to better my visit.


You may have answered your own question by citing DCA's overhaul causing the place to be bursting with crowds. There's a lot more money to be made from causing bursting crowds across two parks rather than just one.

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The upgrades are nice. And they were sorely needed. And when you don't have anything else to market, of course they should be marketed. I personally think that is all taking the easy way out, but hey, it works...so good for them. It worked so well that they used the concept for the 50th and 60th anniversaries.


However, none of that changes the fact Disneyland has gone 20 years without an E-ticket. That's an awful long time by the standard that Disneyland set themselves. It's not spoiled for someone to wonder when the next one is coming, especially given the increase in prices and the capacity problems the park faces.

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In celebration of Disney•Pixar’s “Inside Out” in theaters today, Award Wieners at Disney California Adventure park has added specialty items inspired by the movie to the menu.


Look for two new hot dogs: The Jubilant “Joy” Dog—sweet Italian sausage with bell peppers, lettuce and cheddar cheese, topped with honey mustard, relish, chopped bacon and crispy onions on a hoagie roll. Or spice things up with the “Angry” HOT Dog, a spicy hot link topped with jalapenos, onions, bell peppers, Pepper Jack cheese, Sriracha ketchup and served on a jalapeno-cheddar bun.


Take delight in sipping a “Joy”-ful Splash with Sprite and flavors of citrus and vanilla or try the Spicy Fear-less Lemonade with flavors of pear, chipotle, pineapple, ginger ale and Minute Maid light lemonade. Both drinks are available in the 16 oz. tumbler with artwork inspired by Disney•Pixar’s “Inside Out.”


Are the voices inside your head telling you that you’re hungry? Mine are!






Our celebration of Disney•Pixar’s original film “Inside Out” starts today at Disney California Adventure park with special, pre-parade appearances by the movie’s main characters, the five Emotions: Joy, Fear, Anger, Disgust and Sadness.


Arriving just ahead of daily performances of Pixar Play Parade, the “Inside Out” pre-parade brings these five new characters and their colorful, curious world right through the heart of Disney California Adventure park, allowing them to experience for the first time all the sights, sounds, smells and excitement of a day in a Disney park.


Bringing an innovative storytelling approach to audiences, the film “Inside Out” ventures inside the mind of Riley and introduces us to the Emotions that guide her. Based in Headquarters, the five Emotions are hard at work, led by lighthearted optimist Joy, whose mission is to make sure Riley stays happy. “Inside Out” is directed by Academy Award® winner Pete Docter (“Monsters, Inc.,” “Up”) and produced by Jonas Rivera (“Up”) with an original score by Michael Giacchino (“The Incredibles,” “Ratatouille,” “Up”).


The “Inside Out” pre-parade continues daily all summer long, and you can also catch Disney•Pixar’s “Inside Out” in theaters everywhere this weekend!






Are you ready for “Ant-Man“?


Our sneak peek of the next evolution of Super Hero movies begins this weekend at Disney California Adventure park. Starting today, head over to the Bug’s Life Theater for an advance look at scenes from the upcoming adventure film, “Ant-Man,” presented in 3D with special in-theater effects and a display of the original Ant-Man suit from the film.


“Ant-Man,” directed by Peyton Reed and starring Paul Rudd as Scott Lang/Ant-Man and Michael Douglas as Dr. Hank Pym, introduces us to a hero armed with the astonishing ability to shrink in scale but increase in strength. Master thief Scott Lang must embrace his inner hero and help his mentor, Dr. Hank Pym, protect the secret behind his spectacular Ant-Man suit from a new generation of towering threats. Against seemingly insurmountable obstacles, Pym and Lang must plan and pull off a heist that will save the world.


“Ant-Man” opens in theaters on July 17, 2015.



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Just my 2 cents.... I've been sick of projections ever since they replaced the bride in Haunted Mansion. I'll always choose a practical effect over a projection, and I think the move toward more and more projections is diminishing the "disney magic".

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Wait Hold Up!


Disney doesn't want to invest much money into their Fat Cash Cow Disneyland???!......What a surprise.

Disney hasn't added a brand new E-Ticket attraction to Disneyland for 20+ years! (Milk that bloated cow for all its worth, and then some!)

But with Universal Hollywood investing $$$ in a Harry Potter Land, we can only hope that Disneyland will step up! (with a major ride, and not just a 'pathetic' movie promotion tie-in.... Frozen Etc.) They have lots of room to build, we can only hope the imagineers will succeed!


Clearly you have no idea how much money it costs to keep a ride like Indiana Jones and all its effects working up to Disney's show standards. There comes a point when it just doesn't make sense to keep filling the money pit.


Well it's not like Disneyland doesn't make literally BILLIONS of dollars per year. Seriously... what percentage of the park's net income would it take to keep the practical effects up and running?

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^Disneyland itself probably doesn't make billions on its own. While I agree the practical FX would be better, an important thing to remember is the effects on Indy were designed in the early 90's---it's probably not as simple as just "maintaining" them. They likely would have to re-engineer them, so I'm guessing (as I said earlier) that the creative direction the resort is headed with projection likely dictated going that direction.

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If I was, I would insist on the Peoplemover being brought back to life, removed altogether, or alter the shade providing sections of it into something resembling Fremont Street in Vegas.


Great photos of the hot dogs btw!

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The Walt Disney Co. is seriously considering a $1 billion expansion of the Disneyland Resort with new attractions, a 5,000-slot parking structure and improvements to streets surrounding the massive theme park complex.


Disney officials said Thursday they don’t know whether the expansion would be an addition to Disneyland, Disney California Adventure, or perhaps both parks. But they said there are no plans for a third theme park in Anaheim.


In exchange for the major investment, Disney wants the city of Anaheim to not levy taxes on admission tickets at the theme parks for another 30 years, according to a public notice released Thursday by the city.


On July 7, the City Council will hold a public hearing to consider extending the current entertainment tax exemption for Disney that started in 1996 and expires June 30, 2016.


“Anaheim has been an economic success story thanks to its policies and initiatives that allow businesses to invest and thrive,” said Michael Colglazier, president of Disneyland Resort.


“We are asking city leaders to continue with a policy set two decades ago that has driven unprecedented job creation, growth, and prosperity, and enabled the city to invest in vital services that benefit every Anaheim resident.”


At least one Anaheim City Council member supports Disney’s expansion plans and withholding a ticket tax for the theme partk giant.


“History has shown us that a $1 billion investment by Disney will create thousands of new jobs in Anaheim, and millions in new revenue for our neighborhoods and vital city services, all without increasing taxes for our residents or creating costs for the city,” said Anaheim Councilwoman Kris Murray said Thursday.


Disney officials said they don’t know potential rides, themed lands and other details yet, but said construction would begin no later than the of 2017. But the company now owns the Star Wars, Marvel and Pixar franchises and has plenty of new options.


If the ticket-tax exemption is approved, Disney officials said they could announce their intentions for the new project by December. Earlier this year, Disney Chairman Bob Iger told shareholders that the company plans to expand the Disneyland Resort.


In other shareholder calls, Iger previously had mentioned that Disney Imagineers are working on “Star Wars” attractions for Disney theme parks.


The expansion of Disney California Adventure, completed in 2012, cost $1 billion-plus.


Negotiations on how to frame a proposed theme park expansion began last month, said Anaheim Interim Assistant City Manager Kristine Ridge.


The city’s tax-pact dates back to when California Adventure was on the drawing board. As a condition to get that park built, the City Council in 1996 unanimously agreed to pay up to $546 million for a new parking garage on Disney property, repaved streets, landscaping and renovated utilities.


At the time, city officials also agreed not to levy an entertainment tax on tickets sold at either of the Disney theme parks for 20 years.


Charging admission taxes to Disneyland has been debated for decades.


A proposed 5 percent tax on Anaheim’s entertainment venues gained momentum in 1975, but the City Council changed course after facing heavy opposition from Disneyland and the Angels.


The idea came up again in 1991, when Anaheim officials suggested that revenue generated by an admissions tax could help pay for building Disney’s second theme park. At the time, Disney officials threatened to kill the project if a tax was imposed.


No Disney park in the world currently has an admission’s tax.


“We’ve had a 60-year partnership with Disney, and I was very excited when they shared that they were contemplating this type of investment,” Ridge said. “Disney is a global company and can choose any of their five locations to make this type of capital enhancement, so we’re feeling lucky.”

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Very glad to see them investing into the CA parks on such a large scale. If construction is no later than 2017, then we might see something mentioned at D23 in 2016.


Entertainment wise, the both parks seem to be pretty solid with the new WOC and night time DL parade/ fireworks. And they will ride that 60th anniversary merchandising train for awhile, with Pan opening in a few weeks and the Flying Tires in DCA maybe late fall or early 2016.


As far as completely new rides, I would most likely look to what else is being built at the other parks. My wish list would be to place the Frozen mini-land (from TDS) on top of Autopia and the Subs, expanding Fantasyland. Be great to see a much longer version of 7 dwarves style coaster zipping about.


For Tomorrowland, focus more on the heroes of the Disney Marvel brand. I would like to see T-land gain the Iron Man attraction from Hong Kong for example in the Innovations building. Or relocate Star Tours to the rumored expansion, and drop in Iron Man there and use Innovations for another dark ride experience. The Magic Eye theater gain a new ride /film, not just semi-static seats. Universal's Despicable Me I think has a good way to present these kind of film attractions. Space Mountain could easily take on interior remodel. I don't consider that ship in the station to be iconic in any way, although I am not a Disney-never-change-walt's-vision kind of guy, but no reason it has to remain a generic ship. There was a rumor about a flat ride going on top of Space Mt., plenty of space there for something new (Jet Pack flat ride from Shanghai?) between that and the starcade. Of course, do something with People Mover.


For Star Wars land, assuming it is indeed on top of ToonTown. Next time you are there, imagine Tattoine overlay on the existing buildings, the height of what is currently there kind of works. Relocate Star Tours to new venue, change out theme to Gadget and R. Rabbit. Although with Rabbit, expand the loading area and the vehicles size to accommodate more guests. Looking overseas, the Tron Coaster could possibly be a good choice for the big "Star Wars" attraction. But so could a variation on R. Races from DCA, swap out land speeders or speeder bikes for Cars. Pretty easy to see it when you walk down the street and think about Flo's being replaced by Mos Eisley Cantina, and there certainly is enough merchandise from Star Wars to fill all the various gift shops.

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Pretty sure this expansion was going to happen regardless of whether or not the tickets get taxed.


Probably so, as the business case won't be so tight as this to make a difference.


Also, hold your horses recreational Imagineers - as a betting man, I suspect that the initial phases of whatever this investment may be, is entirely likely to be boring infrastructure stuff like a new parking garage. Which is pretty darn necessary, but major dollars.

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We all saw this coming. Great news.


Selfie Sticks to Be Banned From Disneyland, Disney World


Disney has officially added the selfie stick to the list of items not permitted inside its U.S. theme parks, the company confirmed on Friday.


Earlier this year, Disney announced selfie sticks were not allowed on rides. The new policy extends the ban to the front gate, where guests will be stopped at security if they attempt to bring a selfie stick into the park.


The new policy goes into effect on June 30 at both Walt Disney World in Florida and Disneyland Resort in California, according to the Orlando Sentinel.


The California Screamin’ roller coaster at Disney California Adventure Park was temporarily halted on Wednesday after a passenger pulled out a selfie stick mid-ride


“We strive to provide the great experience for the entire family and unfortunately selfie sticks have become a growing safety concern for both our guests and our cast,” Disney World spokeswoman Kim Prunty said in a statement.


Theme park guest relations will tag any selfie sticks at the front gate for storage during the day, and guests will be given a claim ticket to pickup their item when leaving the park.


Disneyland Paris and Hong Kong Disneyland will join the policy starting July 1.


Some of the other items banned inside Disney theme parks include wagons, folding chairs, glass containers, inline skates, skateboards, shoes with build-in wheels, suitcases and other items.


Clarification: A Disney World spokeswoman was initially misquoted in the Orlando Sentinel article used. The story has been updated with the correct statement.

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Disney is playing hardball with Anaheim over the tax. We will see who blinks. Disney is going to expand regardless of the tax. They just may take a little longer to do it. My guess is the city will agree to not taxing the tickets. After all Disney has done a lot for Anaheim by being there and the more people they can cram into the park, the more they will spend in the area.

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Disney is playing hardball with Anaheim over the tax. We will see who blinks. Disney is going to expand regardless of the tax. They just may take a little longer to do it. My guess is the city will agree to not taxing the tickets. After all Disney has done a lot for Anaheim by being there and the more people they can cram into the park, the more they will spend in the area.

Honestly I don't know why they'd vote to not tax them. Do they think Disney's going to pack up and leave? The mayor who's against the tax break knows Disney's going to expand anyway... But as I heard from someone, don't bite the hand that feeds you... Anaheim IS Disney.

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So there is a rumor going around that the Innoventions building may become an exhibit for Star Wars. Certainly is more than enough legacy material to make an amazing museum and promotional vehicle for the new batch of films. Wonder what condition the original Star Tours movie is in? It would be a good bit of nostalgia to see that again.


No doubt that Disney wins on the tax issue.

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I would love to see a dark ride put into that building, but it will be interesting to see what they do with it. They could turn it into a death star type place where there are different rooms and stores.

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