JNoonez Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 After postponing a trip to SFNE due to another extended downtime for S:ROS, it got me thinking about B&M coasters that may have suffered a similar bout of extended downtime. I couldn't think of any besides those coasters that were SBNO due to a closed/damaged park. Have there been any instances of B&M coasters being down for for more than a few days? Anyone know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpengeist04 Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 That's a good question. Off the top of my head I can't think of any, but I'm sure if there was one or two a member of TPR will know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeemerBoy Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Beemers don't break down. Anyone who tells you differently is lying. Nah, I can't think of any either off the top of my head, except for repainting the year-rounders in Florida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axman Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Great Bear was having trouble when I went in 2005. It was down for one day, but it was open again the next day. Out of the coutless times I've been to Great America, I've never once wittnessed Top Gun or Vortex broken down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraken613 Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Top Gun at Carowinds is down now or was. Missing supports to the batwing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raptorcrew2002 Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 B&M and downtime. As for long periods unless you had something major like a chain, structural, or motor without a back up then yes B&M coaster could go down just as easy. Wheels, and parts are typical and most parks have spears, not to mention the option of multi trains. Raptor had a good downtime the first half of 02, where the crews where actually working other rides while trying to fix the problems. I was at Mantis the first half the year until transferring to Raptor so I missed all that excitement. It was more then 1 or 2 days of issues for sure. (Actually kind of stuck around all year, #30) But most of the B&M errors usually are just the sensors while you’re at the parks. Honestly probably 97-98% off all downtime is triggered from sensors and or computer related issues, well not considering weather and guest illnesses anyways. Other fun areas can be: Transfer table. Typical area for sensors to go funky. Not too uncommon to go down after an operating day while transferring the trains off. *Cough Mantis. Air lines. Not uncommon especially in very climate prone areas. Every now and then during test runs you would hear an air blast @ mid course etc. Duck tape and fixed. Lightning hitting the lift can cause havoc but usually they can have it back up the next morning. Any coaster or ride for that matter can go down for a good period of time for one reason or another. Some have much bigger issues which trigger longer downtimes but thats usally related to design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loco Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Great Bear was having trouble when I went in 2005. It was down for one day, but it was open again the next day. Out of the coutless times I've been to Great America, I've never once wittnessed Top Gun or Vortex broken down I've seen Top Gun get stuck on the lift (thats about it) and Vortex break down right after we got off, but both were quickly fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Top Gun at Carowinds has been down for a month now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharkTums Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Tatsu has a LOT of downtime (way too much for a B&M!). Ranging from a couple of hours, to a near day. Last summer was especially bad...this year it still is having issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Air had a lot of downtime in its first year, and is still prone to the occasional bout of breakdowns due to complications with the loading procedure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis Inferno Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 AIR had some issues where the bar broke... But that wasn't really B&Ms fault was it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireHawk2k7 Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 I think alot of the break downs has to do with how well the park maintanes the ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Tatsu has a LOT of downtime (way too much for a B&M!). Ranging from a couple of hours, to a near day. Last summer was especially bad...this year it still is having issues. I agree the engineering/design on the flying coasters is so complicated they have a ton of downtime. I could write a huge thesis on how redic those rides mechanics are, being a ride op on one really has gotten me to dislike certain aspects of B&M flyers .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraken613 Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Last year I got stuck on Top Gun at Carowinds lift. Not because of the ride but one of those stupid cameras they have on the trains. One fell off and they stoped the ride. Got evacuated from about 20 feet up the lift. It was fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purplepills Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 AIR had some issues where the bar broke... But that wasn't really B&Ms fault was it? Depends on why it broke, maybe it wasn't substantial enough to take the repeated loading, I just don't know. The thing with Air is that it was a prototype, so there are a lot of unknowns. B&M's in general are a lot simpler than Intamins coasters say, using less complex parts and designs = less to go wrong. Especially comparing the parts required to launch a rocket coaster to the parts in a B&M lift hill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfie Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 I heard that in its early years, Raging Bull vallied between the first drop and the turnaround - how long does it take to tow a train? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharkTums Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 ^Depends on the park. Lots of B&M's valley all the time due to weather conditions. I've seen parks take the train off and have the ride running again in a few hours, and I've seen it sit pathetic for over a week! Also, the Air thing! Yeah I forgot about that! I remember in 2002 a lot of us going over were really getting nervous as it was down for at least a couple of weeks. Then the subsequent flyers all got a different 'bar thing' in the station! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hercules Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Medusa at Great Adventure has the occasional problem with the midcourse breaks that causes it to be down for an entire day here and there. It has had this problem ever since the day that it opened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam06pr Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Sheikra was having problems a few months ago, but the most it closed for was a day. However Kumba had a problem that kept it closed for almost a whole week. other than that, I cannot think of anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireHawk2k7 Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 I saw Raptor at Cedar Point seems to be going down for about 20 minutes at a time lately. It has been happening alot to me it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankees15 Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 I have never witnessed or heard about a major break down on a B&M, but they so break down sometimes. I've seen Talon and Hydra break down multiple times and they have been down for a few hours, but they almost always reopen that day. I also saw Medusa at Great Adventure break down once and it was down for a few hours. A train got stuck on the mcbr and another train was going up the lift hill and it didn't stop until it was on the very top! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jten11 Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 I would have to say Superman: UF at SFOG. The ride broke down I think twice while I was waiting in line, making the wait significantly longer. And I think Batman:TR broke down when I was in that line as well....but besides that, those are the only breakdowns I encountered with a B&M coaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCFreak Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 A train got stuck on the mcbr and another train was going up the lift hill and it didn't stop until it was on the very top! Um, that's what it's suppose to do. I think Raptor was down a few days after one of the trains felt it was too good for the station and just shot straight through ending up with two trains on the lift. That was funny to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goliath513 Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Great Bear was having trouble when I went in 2005. It was down for one day, but it was open again the next day. Out of the coutless times I've been to Great America, I've never once wittnessed Top Gun or Vortex broken down I've seen Top Gun get stuck on the lift (thats about it) and Vortex break down right after we got off, but both were quickly fixed. I was stuck on Vortex's lift during my first visit to the park in 02. Then the next time I was there it got stuck again. All the other Beemers I've seen at parks I've been to seem to be operating very smoothly, except for Tatsu as Elissa pointed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnage Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 I saw Raptor at Cedar Point seems to be going down for about 20 minutes at a time lately. It has been happening alot to me it seems. That might not be a mechanical breakdown though. Could quite possibly go down to clean up after someone pukes. That's pretty common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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