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I really hope it does receive some decent theming to give Medieval Faire a chance for a makeover. Other than some stone paths and borders, the theatre, and Marketplace, the area has almost completely lost it's medieval touch. I've always wished that they'd rename Riptide and Drop Tower the next time they're in need of new paint.

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While not completely related to the operation of Canada's Wonderland, the park was used in a completely different way earlier this week to keep a tradition alive due to current COVID-19 restrictions i

Go to CW site.  Click to buy something like a season pass.  You'll see it in the popup transaction window.  Under 2021 Season Pass -> 2021 Add Ons.  

Can confirm, CF doesn't care which park you go to first with your paper voucher for a Platinum Pass.  You'll get your photo taken and be issued a card that has whatever park you go to first on the bac

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New rumor is that this is going to be 350 feet tall. I really hope so, that would be wild....

 

The cached Wikipedia page for CW says:

 

"2012 - Leviathan, a 350 foot roller coaster, first giga by B & M and surpassing tallest and fastest coaster in Canada (max speed 98mph) [17] (An official countdown clock to the announcement of the 2012 attraction can be seen here. The official announcement will be made on August 18, 2011 at approximately 7:00 am EST. This is also when the countdown clock will end.)"

 

But when you click on the actual wiki page it isn't there yet. Hmmm...

 

I know it's Wikipedia but it could be possible someone with legit info works on that page?

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Also if the name is really Leviathian like Steve says (I believe ya man) I wonder if this ride will have themeing similar to Krake at Hyde park. A Leviathian (according to wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leviathan) is some sort of biblical sea monster, and B&M seems to have been delivering more extensive themeing than normal with their recent coasters (X-Raptor, Krake, Swarm), so maybe this thing will have the some sea monster boat tunnels also or something.

 

Themeing is more on the park/chain. As far as I know the manufacturers have little or nothing to do with theming other than how the ride will behave around it. CF, not too big on the theming so I'm not going to assume any good European park style theming.

 

It definitely is more on the park and chain but the ride company can partner with an outside design company to offer the themeing as a total package. X-Raptor and Swarm look so similar with a slightly different story at two different parks in different chains that I think B&M might be providing the themeing as a package with the ride system, or the same design company is collaborating with B&M on their different projects. How many B&M's before X-Raptor featured any type of extensive themeing at all (other than Black Mamba, and maybe Sheikra and manta)? This is so uniquefor B&M that I think it's not a coincidence, I expect most of the wing riders to feature similar props and themeing.

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^Look at the TRs for both Gardaland and Thorpe Park. They have tremendous theming throughout the parks, more than what I've seen in any of the US parks I've visited. CF, and SF for that fact, are not that big on spending a decent amount of money on theming their rides. Believe me I would LOVE to see a XRaptor or Swarm style theming but I don't think it's going to happen.

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I don't think it's going to happen either because I don't think CW is building a 350 foot tall wing rider, but I'll bet ya the first wing rider to debut in America will probably have some themeing somewhat similar to X-Raptor and Swarm.

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1. B&M Giga. My God.

 

5. B&M Giga. My God.

 

I would say this pretty much sums up what was running through my mind when I saw those latest pictures! I am awe-struck at the notion of a B&M coaster surpassing 300 feet! I am a pretty huge fan of their coasters, so I am eager to see the announcement tomorrow morning.

 

And let me join the group that loves the name....I think it sounds totally bad-a$$!!

 

As for the whole "record breaking" thing, I just have a hunch that they're going for tallest "traditional" roller coaster in the world. Can't wait to see the layout of this bad boy!!

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New rumor is that this is going to be 350 feet tall. I really hope so, that would be wild....

 

The cached Wikipedia page for CW says:

 

"2012 - Leviathan, a 350 foot roller coaster, first giga by B & M and surpassing tallest and fastest coaster in Canada (max speed 98mph) [17] (An official countdown clock to the announcement of the 2012 attraction can be seen here. The official announcement will be made on August 18, 2011 at approximately 7:00 am EST. This is also when the countdown clock will end.)"

 

But when you click on the actual wiki page it isn't there yet. Hmmm...

 

I know it's Wikipedia but it could be possible someone with legit info works on that page?

 

wikipedia isn't a reliable resource whatsoever. unless you know the information is 100% fact, don't trust it. some 12 year old kid who thinks he knows everything about coasters could've put that just to make himself feel "cool" or someone could just have put it to watch us coaster fanatics freak out.

now that i've said this, i'm not saying that the info isn't true. i'm just saying lets not jump to conclusions and trust this info just yet. though if it does end up being true it will be one heck of a ride...

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I don't think it's going to happen either because I don't think CW is building a 350 foot tall wing rider, but I'll bet ya the first wing rider to debut in America will probably have some themeing somewhat similar to X-Raptor and Swarm.

 

I didn't say it was going to be a wing rider, I was just giving my 2 cents on the theming aspect using examples you gave. Either way this thing is going to kick A$$

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A B&M giga in the works, huh? I'm about dumbstruck! This will be VERY fun to watch unfold!

B&M has had to build unique support structures in the past (Alpengeist). I'm interested in seeing if they take that route or stick to their normal support system.

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I think that really brings credit to the 330-350' rumours. If Leviathan (or whatever) is towering over everything including Windseeker, this is going to be massive.

 

Since everyone else is making wacky predictions, how about a 400' tall traditional coaster? B&M goes for broke!

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^Um, not everyone agrees. I think a dive machine is actually almost out of the question. The track is normal gauge, which rules out a large-train dive machine. And why in the would would they install a dive machine that seats less than 20 people on one train, i.e. Brake, or even Oblivion, when it's 300' tall and is going to bring crowds (to the most-attended seasonal theme park in North America, mind you) like mad? That would make no sense.

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when it's 300' tall and is going to bring crowds (to the most-attended park in North America) like mad? That would make no sense.

 

I'm no expert, but I'm fairly confident CW is NOT the most-attended park in North America.

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I doubt it's going to be a Dive Machine, the track isn't wide enough for the 8 wide or 10 wide cars, so depending on how many trains this runs, the 6 wide cars would be a capacity nightmare, especially if it uses a traditional chain lift and is 350 feet. Plus, in my opinion a 300+ foot dive machine would look incredibly awkward. A 300 foot turn above the ground would just seem look really awkward over the skyline.

 

I think we're going to see something like Millennium Force mixed with I305 but from B&M of course. I also think we're either going to have Behemoth style trains, or a whole new train design for this.

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I'm no expert, but I'm fairly confident CW is NOT the most-attended park in North America.

 

Wonderland is the highest attended park in the CF chain which runs Seasonal operations as last recorded in 2010. The only park higher then us in the Cedar Fair chain is Knotts but they are a year round park. We had 3.38million Visitors in 2010

 

Source: http://www.coastergrotto.com/theme-park-attendance.jsp

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One problem with a B&M giga is the chain lift. Having a single chain for a 300 foot coaster is just to heavy and hard to move and I dont think it will be able to use two chain lifts, like steel dragon does, unless they completly redesign their track, trains, and braking system. If you look at there rides, beside for the trains, they really havent changed that much over the years. The track, braking system, friction wheels, and lift are all basicly the same on all of there coasters. The only new thing that they added was the magnetic brakes. I think the whole giga stuff is just to tease us. Unless they dig a huge pit and have the coaster drop 50 feet under ground I dont think it will be a giga.

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"We have always loved breaking records.

Congratulations, Wonderland!"

- Richard L. Kinzel, Chief Executive Officer, Cedar Fair Entertainment

 

From http://www.canadaswonderland.com/2012/

 

 

DAMN! I'm exited about this one! Wow!

I am looking so much forward to the announcement tomorrow, even though i live in Denmark, this really is exiting for me.

 

My guess is a B&M Wing Rider...

 

 

I'm all hyped up!

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when it's 300' tall and is going to bring crowds (to the most-attended park in North America) like mad? That would make no sense.

 

I'm no expert, but I'm fairly confident CW is NOT the most-attended park in North America.

 

I already edited my post to say seasonal theme park before you commented.

 

Also, on the topic of the chain - what's to say they won't finally jump into the cable lift business? Nothing stopping them, really.

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