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I'm a bit surprised that there's no teasers at all. CW isn't acknowledging the signs of construction in the park at all, and usually they don't just loudly announce a new attraction unexpectedly. Maybe a countdown or some other teaser will show up this month?

 

Well the rumor is Cedar Point took our coaster year this year and we took theirs next year. So essentially a coaster year swap. This might explain the no teasers and signs like there was at the beginning of the season for Leviathan. They aren't even teasing us via twitter or facebook like Leviathan.

 

This or we are also getting what Cedar Point is getting and we can't tease or anything till after Cedar Point announces theirs. However Cedar Point isn't going out of their way to tease either they simply are putting up a coaster count down with little acknowledgement to it...

 

It will be interesting to see what happens

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I'm a bit surprised that there's no teasers at all. CW isn't acknowledging the signs of construction in the park at all, and usually they don't just loudly announce a new attraction unexpectedly. Maybe a countdown or some other teaser will show up this month?

 

Well the rumor is Cedar Point took our coaster year this year and we took theirs next year. So essentially a coaster year swap. This might explain the no teasers and signs like there was at the beginning of the season for Leviathan. They aren't even teasing us via twitter or facebook like Leviathan.

 

That makes no sense whatsoever. "CP's was planned for this year and CW's was planned for the year following" is much more logical. One doesen't "steal" one's year for a coaster. That's enthusiasts' nonsense.

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I'm a bit surprised that there's no teasers at all. CW isn't acknowledging the signs of construction in the park at all, and usually they don't just loudly announce a new attraction unexpectedly. Maybe a countdown or some other teaser will show up this month?

 

Well the rumor is Cedar Point took our coaster year this year and we took theirs next year. So essentially a coaster year swap. This might explain the no teasers and signs like there was at the beginning of the season for Leviathan. They aren't even teasing us via twitter or facebook like Leviathan.

 

That makes no sense whatsoever. "CP's was planned for this year and CW's was planned for the year following" is much more logical. One doesen't "steal" one's year for a coaster. That's enthusiasts' nonsense.

 

It happens a lot, last minute decisions to postpone a project and bring forward a future one.

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I'm a bit surprised that there's no teasers at all. CW isn't acknowledging the signs of construction in the park at all, and usually they don't just loudly announce a new attraction unexpectedly. Maybe a countdown or some other teaser will show up this month?

 

Well the rumor is Cedar Point took our coaster year this year and we took theirs next year. So essentially a coaster year swap. This might explain the no teasers and signs like there was at the beginning of the season for Leviathan. They aren't even teasing us via twitter or facebook like Leviathan.

 

That makes no sense whatsoever. "CP's was planned for this year and CW's was planned for the year following" is much more logical. One doesen't "steal" one's year for a coaster. That's enthusiasts' nonsense.

 

Couldn't agree more. Parks have 4-5 year plans typically. A park just doesn't swap like that and CP had been rumored to get something this year anyways for quite some time now. Fact is, if CW gets something we get something, if we don't we don't.

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^That actually does happen once in a while. For example, Carowinds kinda stole King's Dominion's coaster for 2015 (explaining why would take a paragraph and I'm really tired so I'll do it another time)

 

Oh and don't forget that Leviathan was really meant for Knotts

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Conference Call Information

 

~Wifi will be coming to the 5 largest parks in 2016, Infrastructure will be the main focus of Cedar Fair.

 

~California's Great America is really impressing Cedar Fair and they will be focusing investments on this park. The are going through a rezoning process to invest capital in this park.

 

~A virtual reality will be tested on an existing coaster in 2016. This is a test to see if they can make an older coaster better without building a 30 million dollar coaster.

 

~Highest season pass sales this year ever in history for Cedar Fair along with highest in park spending.

 

~The "detererating" canadian dollar is negatively impacting business to the north and they expect this to be the case for the remainder of the season. However, The Canadian property is doing very well despite the dollar and the company is taking measure to counteract this

 

~BBQ & Brew and food trucks has been a major success for the chain,and they are looking to improve them and expand them. As I said before expect to see Brew and BBQ in 2016 at Canada's Wonderland.

 

~Parks, plural will be announcing their attractions in the weeks to come, but the chain is working on making their parks a place to come have fun and not be all about coasters.

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Conference Call Information

 

~Wifi will be coming to the 5 largest parks in 2016, Infrastructure will be the main focus of Cedar Fair.

 

~California's Great America is really impressing Cedar Fair and they will be focusing investments on this park. The are going through a rezoning process to invest capital in this park.

 

~A virtual reality will be tested on an existing coaster in 2016. This is a test to see if they can make an older coaster better without building a 30 million dollar coaster.

 

~Highest season pass sales this year ever in history for Cedar Fair along with highest in park spending.

 

~The "detererating" canadian dollar is negatively impacting business to the north and they expect this to be the case for the remainder of the season. HOWEVER, the Canada property is doing VERY VERY well and they are taking measures to save them from the dollar impact. (you can hear them at the end of the call discuss how successful Wonderland is)

 

~BBQ & Brew and food trucks has been a major success for the chain,and they are looking to improve them and expand them. As I said before expect to see Brew and BBQ in 2016 at Canada's Wonderland.

 

~Parks, plural will be announcing their attractions in the weeks to come, but the chain is working on making their parks a place to come have fun and not be all about coasters.

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So basically nothing that wasn't expected outside of the overly horrible idea of mixing rides with VR. i "get" where they are coming from as a business level but that is such a lame gimmick in my eyes.

 

So CW can expect Wifi as we are definitely in the top 5 parks, so I am excited for that as I am also excited for Brews and BBQ, though again I am not shocked as it's successful elsewhere so why not bring it up.

 

The dollar situation is not shocking as well, but even if we don't have a lot of travelers coming to our park this year it has been consistently busy over the summer and we had the PanAm games that helped bring a lot of guests up as well.

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So basically nothing that wasn't expected outside of the overly horrible idea of mixing rides with VR. i "get" where they are coming from as a business level but that is such a lame gimmick in my eyes.

 

So CW can expect Wifi as we are definitely in the top 5 parks, so I am excited for that as I am also excited for Brews and BBQ, though again I am not shocked as it's successful elsewhere so why not bring it up.

 

The dollar situation is not shocking as well, but even if we don't have a lot of travelers coming to our park this year it has been consistently busy over the summer and we had the PanAm games that helped bring a lot of guests up as well.

 

 

Sorry I think I made it sound like we were doing bad, Canada's Wonderland and Carowinds and Californias Great America is the sole reason Cedar Fair is experiencing such growth this year with Canada's Wonderland leading the way in attendance growth.

 

Matt Ouimet said everyone is going to be very impressed by the 2016 investments which will be announced at the parks within the next couple weeks and he used plural. They were joking at the end of the call aboout how well the canada property is doing despite the dollar situation.

 

Also WMG could so use the virtual reality to replace the ugliness and maybe that is the coaster they are testing it on??

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Also WMG could so use the virtual reality to replace the ugliness and maybe that is the coaster they are testing it on??

 

Sure hope not. The ride doesn't need that...not at all. I saw a report on Screamscape today about VR testing on a swinging ship and personally laughed at how dumb this all seems. I understand tech changes and things change but this is something I do not think parks should be doing.

 

Again, this is just my opinion and until I experience it I cannot fully judge, but just think there's so much more left to do than this.

 

WMG could benefit from a screen/projector upgrade and I am sure that would be something we'd see sooner than VR. With the amount of seats or guns that break down on that ride do you really think a VR headset would be a good option? They can't even keep the glasses clean, scares me to think of what the cleanliness of these would be after some hot and sweaty person wore them in front of me.

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Personally think there way too much going on in the splash works area to get nothing next year. Also, the press release announcing Skyrider's removal stated that building its replacement would be multi year project.

 

Think we'll see a splash works expansion or flat in 2016, with a coaster in 2017.

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Personally think there way too much going on in the splash works area to get nothing next year. Also, the press release announcing Skyrider's removal stated that building its replacement would be multi year project.

 

Think we'll see a splash works expansion or flat in 2016, with a coaster in 2017.

 

Im going to go back to my original rumor as it seems to have been true from a source on here

 

Cedar Point and Canada's Wonderland swapped coaster years due to a last minute decision. What is going in next year has not even been planned yet but something is coming. Also this source pointed out hey everyone is so vocal about the sprinkler system that went in but no one noticed the yellow and white flags marking the elctrical work that went in as well ( cough cough for a future launch) . Just be patient and wait for 2017 as we got a small coaster in 2014 and Wonderland is set to break a significant attendance record this season.

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^good point about the electrical work. But how do we know 100% that electrical stuff was installed. The flag colour doesn't really mean anything...Wonderland could have put purple flags if they wanted to

 

well no not really in construction green markers on tree mean keep, which is what we saw.. Blue flags mean water which we know is true so white flags meaning electrical I'm going to assume mean electrical also we have the yellow stake which is power supply.

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But just some food for thought, wonderland could have just picked random colours.

 

I've also been thinking in terms of power, Holiday World built a sub-station for Thunderbird the previous season. BSC has a small power station but I would think a B&M launch would need more power; so what if that digging near Behemoth's helix is for a sub-station? (Or am I thinking too much)

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But just some food for thought, wonderland could have just picked random colours.

 

I've also been thinking in terms of power, Holiday World built a sub-station for Thunderbird the previous season. BSC has a small power station but I would think a B&M launch would need more power; so what if that digging near Behemoth's helix is for a sub-station? (Or am I thinking too much)

 

There is zero digging near Behemoths Helix

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