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While not completely related to the operation of Canada's Wonderland, the park was used in a completely different way earlier this week to keep a tradition alive due to current COVID-19 restrictions i

Go to CW site.  Click to buy something like a season pass.  You'll see it in the popup transaction window.  Under 2021 Season Pass -> 2021 Add Ons.  

Can confirm, CF doesn't care which park you go to first with your paper voucher for a Platinum Pass.  You'll get your photo taken and be issued a card that has whatever park you go to first on the bac

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Alright... So I was watching In The Loop's video for CW's Season Pass Preview Day and he mentioned something about if there is going to be a Roller Coaster being added in 2016 that it would come out and turn around back toward the park between the 400 and the Canada's Wonderland Drive entrance. Plus according to somebody on CWmania's forum, they saw some blue flags/markers across SkyRider's grave (old spot) and they are saying that there are some underground water or electrical work going on. But somebody else stated that it's for a sprinkler system that it going in.

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There are blue flags and trenches dug up where SkyRider was with some piping near by. There was also yellowstakes there too. I am almost positive that the blue us for a water system (Could be wrong) but I have no idea what the yellow stakes could be for.

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Yellow is generally a gas line marker. Canada uses the same colored surveying system that we use here in the US so in general:

 

Orange - telecommunications (phone, fiber optics, etc.)

Yellow - natural gas (pretty much any flammable gas/liquid)

Red - Electrical

Blue - Water

Green - Sewer

Pink - General survey markings or unknown/undetermined utilities

 

If there's a lot of blue stakes (more than likely they're flags for this case) in patterns in the former SkyRider spot, then it's for underground irrigation. If they were going to be marking out footers or other structures, they'd use the pink markers. So for now, I wouldn't bet this is anything more than just underground sprinkling being installed to water the grass that'll be there for the near future.

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Yellow is generally a gas line marker. Canada uses the same colored surveying system that we use here in the US so in general:

 

Orange - telecommunications (phone, fiber optics, etc.)

Yellow - natural gas (pretty much any flammable gas/liquid)

Red - Electrical

Blue - Water

Green - Sewer

Pink - General survey markings or unknown/undetermined utilities

 

If there's a lot of blue stakes (more than likely they're flags for this case) in patterns in the former SkyRider spot, then it's for underground irrigation. If they were going to be marking out footers or other structures, they'd use the pink markers. So for now, I wouldn't bet this is anything more than just underground sprinkling being installed to water the grass that'll be there for the near future.

Member on CWMania said they saw about 5 or 6 red stakes near timber wolf falls as well.

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http://metronews.ca/news/canada/1121159/after-29-years-canadas-wonderlands-skyrider-being-retired/

 

Again, something tells me Timber Wolf Falls might see the Axe at the end of 2015 for a "VERY LARGE" construction project.

 

I agree, Timber Wolf Falls lacks popularity at the park now, I can see it on the chopping block. That can make really useful room if they were to add a new Coaster there. But if they remove Timberwolf, I can see a possibility of a Blitz coaster going in, and it would the first one (if I'm not mistaken) by B&M. But I'd still keep a possibility of a Winged Coaster as well. But a Blitz would make sense to go into the spots of Skyrider and TWF. It can make a pretty good spot for a Blitz

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^Other ones have been leaked, but I don't remember *news sites* leaking this much info about the rides. Just going off memory, so I'm probably wrong; Windseeker's just the one I remember the most.

 

Anyway, the point about the blitz coaster in timber wolf falls'/Skyrider's spot sounds interesting. However, not sure how B&M would pull something like that off. Personally think that if we're getting something along the lines of Helix/maverick, it'll be by Mack.

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^Other ones have been leaked, but I don't remember *news sites* leaking this much info about the rides. Just going off memory, so I'm probably wrong; Windseeker's just the one I remember the most.

 

Anyway, the point about the blitz coaster in timber wolf falls'/Skyrider's spot sounds interesting. However, not sure how B&M would pull something like that off. Personally think that if we're getting something along the lines of Helix/maverick, it'll be by Mack.

 

That would be interesting, but CF has never had relations with Mack i believe. We can hope though

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Never say never to any type of coaster or ride is how I feel. At one point we never thought we'd see one, let alone 2, B&M coasters at our park and now we have that.

 

Wonderland has always been seen as a great place to test different ride types and whatnot as well, so could be something we've never even seen before. The one thing I would say has to be a feature is that it has to be a people eater. With the attendance we get it would be silly to see 2 low capacity rides in a row.

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Just read a really good point on CWmania's forum. Maybe they are removing old underground pipes under SkyRider's spot.... They did that before Leviathan's construction. Meaning the reason why that infamous "Lawn Sprinkler Truck" was at the park the other day. Also, what if SkyRider's spot isn't going to be the spot of the station.... Maybe it will be a place of an Element like a Turn Around, Helix, Cobra Roll, etc. Just a thought. But a very true point. But then where would the station go if project 2016 is a big or descent sized coaster? If Timber Wolf got removed I would see it maybe pushed there and the life hill would go above the Children Rides area and then having a turn around going into a bunch of Inversions over White Water Canyon and then Going in between the Wonderland Drive Enterance and Highway 400 (which is rumored) for a turn around going towards SkyRider's spot before hitting a break run into the station. I could see it being a Winged Coaster (not Gatekeeper size), Floorless, or a B&M first Blitz with a track layout like that. (played a lot of RCT3 and K'nex as a kid, so I have the imagination)

 

But other than that, I don't see any other large space of land for a station... Unless they use the Firework viewing area, but I doubt it. If they were going to build a station in the Woody area by White Water Canyon, I would think they would have removed trees by now...

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^All very good and thoughtful points indeed.

 

Could be removal...would explain the pipe sticking up perhaps that I filmed in my video.

 

Either way, always exciting times to be a Wonderland fan.

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For some reason I am not that excited about this stuff, even though last year I was super excited every time I heard something new.

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Based on recent Cedar Fair additions, I think this would be a large B&M like a wing rider, but what the park really needs in my opinion is a great wooden coaster. Cedar Fair hit home runs with GCI in Gold Striker and Prowler.

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^^^Very good point about the turnaround section. Really don't know what type of coaster it could be, but knowing the "testing ground" nature of CW, I could totally see a firstim the chain type of coaster, most likely some kind of MacK or B&M launcher.

 

Also, I've heard the term "blitz" coaster brought up. Sorry if this is somewhat of a dumb question, but can anyone here tell me more or less what a "blitz" coaster is? Only ones I can think of off the top of my head would be Maverick or possibly helix, and other than the fact that they're launchers, can't really see anything that separates them from the rest (besides the fact they look like amazing rides ).

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^^^Very good point about the turnaround section. Really don't know what type of coaster it could be, but knowing the "testing ground" nature of CW, I could totally see a firstim the chain type of coaster, most likely some kind of MacK or B&M launcher.

 

Also, I've heard the term "blitz" coaster brought up. Sorry if this is somewhat of a dumb question, but can anyone here tell me more or less what a "blitz" coaster is? Only ones I can think of off the top of my head would be Maverick or possibly helix, and other than the fact that they're launchers, can't really see anything that separates them from the rest (besides the fact they look like amazing rides ).

 

To me, Blitz Coasters are High intense, speed filled, G-Force, twisty coasters. Not all are Launched, most have a lift hill, but only one (only I know of) has a 90 Degree life hill straight up which is Fahrenheit at Hershey Park.

But Why I mentioned a Blitz would be a good addition in the park is because of their unique Zero-G rolls and inversions. Wonderland is lacking in rides that go completely upside-down. Think about it. Only Dragon Fire, Flight Deck, and Time Warp (for all I can remember from last year) have inversions on them. SkyRider had one but that's gone as we all know.

For that Wooden Coaster part that was mentioned. I think that Cedar Fairs should start ringing on RMC's doorbell for a deal and put an RMC upgrade on Wild Beast or Minebuster, (and if it happens the names would change to Wild Iron Beast or Mighty Canadian Ironbuster ).

But like I said before. I can see B&M attempt making their very own Blitz Coaster and have their Prototype at Wonderland. Knowing that B&M do a good job on first timers, I can see them pulling it of and Killing Intamin's Blitz Coasters.

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Ya, I forgot to mention, that they shouldn't take long to build and aren't Massive like Behemoth or Leviathan, but still awesome rides. I think their height would be similar to Flight Deck's Peak Height (i'm assuming). So it would make sense that they would start construction later than they did with Leviathan. So if they do start "real" construction by late June, then MAYBE we should start seeing Track pieces rolling into the park on flat beds, so keep an eye out Season Pass Holders who go most of the time. (I don't have a SP this year :/ so I can't really go in debth and have to see what's going on from the sidelines. Thank God we got Toronto Josh from In-The-Loop to do that for us, Credits to him)

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Ya, I forgot to mention, that they shouldn't take long to build and aren't Massive like Behemoth or Leviathan, but still awesome rides. I think their height would be similar to Flight Deck's Peak Height (i'm assuming). So it would make sense that they would start construction later than they did with Leviathan. So if they do start "real" construction by late June, then MAYBE we should start seeing Track pieces rolling into the park on flat beds, so keep an eye out Season Pass Holders who go most of the time. (I don't have a SP this year :/ so I can't really go in depth and have to see what's going on from the sidelines. Thank God we got Toronto Josh from In-The-Loop to do that for us, Credits to him)

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Thanks to everyone who cleared up the blitz coaster explanations. Thinking about it, I still believe we'll see a coaster of that type from Mack or possibly (I doubt it though) Intamin. Unless B&M wants to bring back their old school, balls to the walls intensity (which I would fully support ), I couldn't see whatever they build really fitting the definition of a "blitz" coaster. Just my opinion though... Could be way off. Only time will tell.

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