Dom497 Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Nicman, MA is not neglected....sure, it's not a world class park but for the market that it has, the park serves its purpose. Anyways, lets stay focused on CW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicman Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 ^ I was just about to say that last part! Which coaster do you think is worse, Flight Deck or Time Warp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuckInSD Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 With SkyRider's removal, they got a lot of open space in the middle of the park, so they have a lot of options with what they could build. I'd be really excited if they were the first to try out Vekoma's mega looping coaster concept, but that's just being optimistic. A good launched coaster would also do well, making up for what Back Lot Stunt Coaster lacks. It's actually quite surprising how many coasters CW has gotten since being bought by Cedar Fair (2 large giga coasters and WMG, if we consider it a coaster). With the removal of SkyRider, they're back down to 16 coasters... which is as much coasters as Cedar Point has. Either CF has really big plans for CW, or they just love having a property in Canada that's 10x than whatever Six Flags has up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom497 Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 ^I really hope the coaster doesn't go anywhere near the lake because then it's just going to look like a steel mess there....but judging by the markings that we've already seen, it's seems the park decided otherwise... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buck funny Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 With SkyRider's removal, they got a lot of open space in the middle of the park, so they have a lot of options with what they could build. I'd be really excited if they were the first to try out Vekoma's mega looping coaster concept, but that's just being optimistic. A good launched coaster would also do well, making up for what Back Lot Stunt Coaster lacks. Vekoma? really? no no it will be different this time... I also think Back lot stunt coaster deserves more respect (and attention from the park) that it gets. The launch and first helix are pretty cool. The last part after the brake run is a bit confusing because they turned off all of the effects and it becomes a dark ride. (a better dark ride than wmg though...) To finish with a waterless splashdown? really, you can't get that to work either? Any idea why they just turned off all of the effects? Maybe a bit of re theming and turning the effects on would be nice. How about the theme of driving in downtown Toronto after 4 more years of crackhead ford administration. Burned out streetcars, and heaps of mangled bicycles and condemned highways falling down on you? The grand finale would be to splash down in Ontario place. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GwaziBSRider1 Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 ^ That was the problem I had with CW's Backlot: the effects not working. The splashdown isn't turned on at Kings Island anymore either, and I suspect it's the same as KD's. Although...that Rob Ford idea would be amazing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightypotato Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 ^ That was the problem I had with CW's Backlot: the effects not working. The splashdown isn't turned on at Kings Island anymore either, and I suspect it's the same as KD's. Although...that Rob Ford idea would be amazing! For what it's worth, the splashdown never worked at Canada's Wonderland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterbill Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 The Splashdown seemed to be working at Kings Dominion last week... actually a lot of the effects were... I was shocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCW_Nut Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 ^ That was the problem I had with CW's Backlot: the effects not working. The splashdown isn't turned on at Kings Island anymore either, and I suspect it's the same as KD's. Although...that Rob Ford idea would be amazing! For what it's worth, the splashdown never worked at Canada's Wonderland. Well, it sort of did in the first year. I believe one side did but never to the full potential. Still a fun ride regardless of the effects, just not at it's full themed potential sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicman Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 With SkyRider's removal, they got a lot of open space in the middle of the park, so they have a lot of options with what they could build. I'd be really excited if they were the first to try out Vekoma's mega looping coaster concept, but that's just being optimistic. A good launched coaster would also do well, making up for what Back Lot Stunt Coaster lacks. It's actually quite surprising how many coasters CW has gotten since being bought by Cedar Fair (2 large giga coasters and WMG, if we consider it a coaster). With the removal of SkyRider, they're back down to 16 coasters... which is as much coasters as Cedar Point has. Either CF has really big plans for CW, or they just love having a property in Canada that's 10x than whatever Six Flags has up there. Have you ever been on a Vekoma SLC? I would not like a Vekoma coaster because not only are they rough and painful, Canada's Wonderland needs a superior smooth ride to make it a world class park(okay maybe if they removed Flight Deck and Time warp it would be a world class park). Canada's Wonderland already has enough rough rides so they do not need another rough and painful roller coaster. I think one of the reasons why Cedar Fair likes Canada's Wonderland so much is because it is the best amusement park in Canada. A lot of my class mates have been to Canada's Wonderland instead of La Ronde even though La Ronde is much closer were we live. I think the reason why Canada's Wonderland has a much higher attendance than La Ronde is because of there advertising, like I see commercials all the time for Canada's Wonderland and none for La Ronde. Anyway for a new coaster I would just like to see a new forceful B&M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grsupercity Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 [quote name= Have you ever been on a Vekoma SLC? I would not like a Vekoma coaster because not only are they rough and painful' date=' Canada's Wonderland needs a superior smooth ride to make it a world class park(okay maybe if they removed Flight Deck and Time warp it would be a world class park). Canada's Wonderland already has enough rough rides so they do not need another rough and painful roller coaster. I think one of the reasons why Cedar Fair likes Canada's Wonderland so much is because it is the best amusement park in Canada. A lot of my class mates have been to Canada's Wonderland instead of La Ronde even though La Ronde is much closer were we live. I think the reason why Canada's Wonderland has a much higher attendance than La Ronde is because of there advertising, like I see commercials all the time for Canada's Wonderland and none for La Ronde. Anyway for a new coaster I would just like to see a new forceful B&M.[/quote] I bet that I have been on more SLC's then you, and some are actually pretty fun coasters. I bet I have been on more vekoma models as well, once again, some can be very fun rides. i have been on all manufactures, and all have there bad rides and all have there good rides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicman Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 (edited) [quote name= Have you ever been on a Vekoma SLC? I would not like a Vekoma coaster because not only are they rough and painful' date=' Canada's Wonderland needs a superior smooth ride to make it a world class park(okay maybe if they removed Flight Deck and Time warp it would be a world class park). Canada's Wonderland already has enough rough rides so they do not need another rough and painful roller coaster. I think one of the reasons why Cedar Fair likes Canada's Wonderland so much is because it is the best amusement park in Canada. A lot of my class mates have been to Canada's Wonderland instead of La Ronde even though La Ronde is much closer were we live. I think the reason why Canada's Wonderland has a much higher attendance than La Ronde is because of there advertising, like I see commercials all the time for Canada's Wonderland and none for La Ronde. Anyway for a new coaster I would just like to see a new forceful B&M.[/quote] I bet that I have been on more SLC's then you, and some are actually pretty fun coasters. I bet I have been on more vekoma models as well, once again, some can be very fun rides. i have been on all manufactures, and all have there bad rides and all have there good rides. The only bad rides from B&M are the standup coasters which no one is buying, other than that B&M is a solid company with no flaws. I just wish their new coasters would be more forceful. I think Canada's Wonderland will get a new forceful roller coaster and maybe it will be one of the best roller coasters B&M will have ever made. Edited October 30, 2014 by nicman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJeXeL Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 B&M didn't stop making stand-ups. No one is purchasing them. There's a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom497 Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 [quote name= Have you ever been on a Vekoma SLC? I would not like a Vekoma coaster because not only are they rough and painful' date=' Canada's Wonderland needs a superior smooth ride to make it a world class park(okay maybe if they removed Flight Deck and Time warp it would be a world class park). Canada's Wonderland already has enough rough rides so they do not need another rough and painful roller coaster. I think one of the reasons why Cedar Fair likes Canada's Wonderland so much is because it is the best amusement park in Canada. A lot of my class mates have been to Canada's Wonderland instead of La Ronde even though La Ronde is much closer were we live. I think the reason why Canada's Wonderland has a much higher attendance than La Ronde is because of there advertising, like I see commercials all the time for Canada's Wonderland and none for La Ronde. Anyway for a new coaster I would just like to see a new forceful B&M.[/quote] I bet that I have been on more SLC's then you, and some are actually pretty fun coasters. I bet I have been on more vekoma models as well, once again, some can be very fun rides. i have been on all manufactures, and all have there bad rides and all have there good rides. The only bad rides from B&M are the standup coasters which no one is buying, other than that B&M is a solid company with no flaws. I just wish their new coasters would be more forceful. I think Canada's Wonderland will get a new forceful roller coaster and maybe it will be one of the best roller coasters B&M will have ever made. With every post you make, it seems more and more likely that CW is the only park you've ever been to. Anyways, Standups were a fad. So the model isn't bad, the market just isn't there anymore. Oh, and Wonderland is already a destination park (not Disney standard but destination park, yes) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicman Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 [quote name= Have you ever been on a Vekoma SLC? I would not like a Vekoma coaster because not only are they rough and painful' date=' Canada's Wonderland needs a superior smooth ride to make it a world class park(okay maybe if they removed Flight Deck and Time warp it would be a world class park). Canada's Wonderland already has enough rough rides so they do not need another rough and painful roller coaster. I think one of the reasons why Cedar Fair likes Canada's Wonderland so much is because it is the best amusement park in Canada. A lot of my class mates have been to Canada's Wonderland instead of La Ronde even though La Ronde is much closer were we live. I think the reason why Canada's Wonderland has a much higher attendance than La Ronde is because of there advertising, like I see commercials all the time for Canada's Wonderland and none for La Ronde. Anyway for a new coaster I would just like to see a new forceful B&M.[/quote] I bet that I have been on more SLC's then you, and some are actually pretty fun coasters. I bet I have been on more vekoma models as well, once again, some can be very fun rides. i have been on all manufactures, and all have there bad rides and all have there good rides. The only bad rides from B&M are the standup coasters which no one is buying, other than that B&M is a solid company with no flaws. I just wish their new coasters would be more forceful. I think Canada's Wonderland will get a new forceful roller coaster and maybe it will be one of the best roller coasters B&M will have ever made. With every post you make, it seems more and more likely that CW is the only park you've ever been to. Anyways, Standups were a fad. So the model isn't bad, the market just isn't there anymore. Oh, and Wonderland is already a destination park (not Disney standard but destination park, yes) I have been to La Ronde as well and a few other boring parks like Disney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dschu Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 With SkyRider's removal, they got a lot of open space in the middle of the park, so they have a lot of options with what they could build. I'd be really excited if they were the first to try out Vekoma's mega looping coaster concept, but that's just being optimistic. A good launched coaster would also do well, making up for what Back Lot Stunt Coaster lacks. It's actually quite surprising how many coasters CW has gotten since being bought by Cedar Fair (2 large giga coasters and WMG, if we consider it a coaster). With the removal of SkyRider, they're back down to 16 coasters... which is as much coasters as Cedar Point has. Either CF has really big plans for CW, or they just love having a property in Canada that's 10x than whatever Six Flags has up there. Have you ever been on a Vekoma SLC? I would not like a Vekoma coaster because not only are they rough and painful, Canada's Wonderland needs a superior smooth ride to make it a world class park(okay maybe if they removed Flight Deck and Time warp it would be a world class park). Canada's Wonderland already has enough rough rides so they do not need another rough and painful roller coaster. I think one of the reasons why Cedar Fair likes Canada's Wonderland so much is because it is the best amusement park in Canada. A lot of my class mates have been to Canada's Wonderland instead of La Ronde even though La Ronde is much closer were we live. I think the reason why Canada's Wonderland has a much higher attendance than La Ronde is because of there advertising, like I see commercials all the time for Canada's Wonderland and none for La Ronde. Anyway for a new coaster I would just like to see a new forceful B&M. Have you ridden a new vekoma? The new track design and trains make it a pretty smooth ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicman Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 With SkyRider's removal, they got a lot of open space in the middle of the park, so they have a lot of options with what they could build. I'd be really excited if they were the first to try out Vekoma's mega looping coaster concept, but that's just being optimistic. A good launched coaster would also do well, making up for what Back Lot Stunt Coaster lacks. It's actually quite surprising how many coasters CW has gotten since being bought by Cedar Fair (2 large giga coasters and WMG, if we consider it a coaster). With the removal of SkyRider, they're back down to 16 coasters... which is as much coasters as Cedar Point has. Either CF has really big plans for CW, or they just love having a property in Canada that's 10x than whatever Six Flags has up there. Have you ever been on a Vekoma SLC? I would not like a Vekoma coaster because not only are they rough and painful, Canada's Wonderland needs a superior smooth ride to make it a world class park(okay maybe if they removed Flight Deck and Time warp it would be a world class park). Canada's Wonderland already has enough rough rides so they do not need another rough and painful roller coaster. I think one of the reasons why Cedar Fair likes Canada's Wonderland so much is because it is the best amusement park in Canada. A lot of my class mates have been to Canada's Wonderland instead of La Ronde even though La Ronde is much closer were we live. I think the reason why Canada's Wonderland has a much higher attendance than La Ronde is because of there advertising, like I see commercials all the time for Canada's Wonderland and none for La Ronde. Anyway for a new coaster I would just like to see a new forceful B&M. Have you ridden a new vekoma? The new track design and trains make it a pretty smooth ride. No, I have never been on one or even seen one. I do not think I can trust Vekoma after going on a Vekoma SLC, anyway back to discussing CW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom497 Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 So because GateKeeper had restraint problems and Parrot Coaster had rattle problems, B&M can't be trusted? And you did not just call Disney boring.... I officially have no idea what a great (or even good) amusement park is in your eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterbill Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 I have been to La Ronde as well and a few other boring parks like Disney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicman Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 So because GateKeeper had restraint problems and Parrot Coaster had rattle problems, B&M can't be trusted? And you did not just call Disney boring.... I officially have no idea what a great (or even good) amusement park is in your eyes. The reason why Disney is boring for me is because I prefer thrills. Anyway If the new coaster were to be a Wing coaster I would prefer the layout to be similar to Gatekeepers layout but extended with a few changes to make it unique. What would you like the layout to be if it were a Wing coaster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom497 Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 So because GateKeeper had restraint problems and Parrot Coaster had rattle problems, B&M can't be trusted? And you did not just call Disney boring.... I officially have no idea what a great (or even good) amusement park is in your eyes. The reason why Disney is boring for me is because I prefer thrills. Anyway If the new coaster were to be a Wing coaster I would prefer the layout to be similar to Gatekeepers layout but extended with a few changes to make it unique. What would you like the layout to be if it were a Wing coaster? Apparently GateKeeper isn't a favourite to enthusiasts. Neither am I fan of Wing's in general as loading times are longer (effecting capacity). Oh and you should take a trip to Magic Mountain then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grsupercity Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 So because GateKeeper had restraint problems and Parrot Coaster had rattle problems, B&M can't be trusted? And you did not just call Disney boring.... I officially have no idea what a great (or even good) amusement park is in your eyes. The reason why Disney is boring for me is because I prefer thrills. Anyway If the new coaster were to be a Wing coaster I would prefer the layout to be similar to Gatekeepers layout but extended with a few changes to make it unique. What would you like the layout to be if it were a Wing coaster? Wing coasters are the most boring coasters ever made. You would be better off with a floorless, or something closer to Maverick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicman Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 So because GateKeeper had restraint problems and Parrot Coaster had rattle problems, B&M can't be trusted? And you did not just call Disney boring.... I officially have no idea what a great (or even good) amusement park is in your eyes. The reason why Disney is boring for me is because I prefer thrills. Anyway If the new coaster were to be a Wing coaster I would prefer the layout to be similar to Gatekeepers layout but extended with a few changes to make it unique. What would you like the layout to be if it were a Wing coaster? Apparently GateKeeper isn't a favourite to enthusiasts. Neither am I fan of Wing's in general as loading times are longer (effecting capacity). Oh and you should take a trip to Magic Mountain then. It would give it some uniqueness to the park. If loading times are a problem then I do not think that Canada's Wonderland will get a Wing coaster without solving this problem because of their attendance. Which type of coaster would you like that goes with the theming of Ziz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christianscoasters Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 How are loading times a problem? You don't have to adjust each seat like you would with a B&M stand-up coaster. Get enough ride attendants to operate the ride and to hustle a little bit and pretty much any B&M could pull a fairly high hourly throughput. This is why GateKeeper is my favorite ride to work at CP. It's very fast-paced and a real people-eater. It's about the highest capacity coaster at CP (up there with Magnum) and gets more riders than Leviathan or Behemoth can at CW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarheel1231 Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 ^I second that. I'm not a fan of Carolina Cobra, but the trains are Super Comfy. I would like it more if the track design was similar to the modern Vekomas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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