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We were at CW on Sunday and we LOVED Leviathan. It really exceeded my expectations and is my new favorite hyper/giga. We were able to ride it around 15 times due to lack of anybody in the park. Two train wait (or less) for the front row. Not sure if I prefer the front or the back left seat... Hard to say.

 

We thought it was kind of like MF without the boring mid-section. Absolutely loved the first drop and the low speed hills.

 

Just an overall great ride. No complaints here at all. Wish it were closer to me!

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^Keep in mind though that the train only had one row full of people. More people=more weight=faster ride.

 

Also, the colder weather has an effect too. It was flying balls out for us for night ERT at Leviathan Bash.

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About the Rick Mercer video-

 

-He described it as an "altitude of 356" despite being told it was 306 earlier (though it may not have been filmed in this order, you'd think that the info would be accurate.) Because the 2 digits at the beginning and end were the same, I'm guessing this was a mistake. He could have been acting like a pilot talking about a flight level (356 being 35,600 feet, if memory serves), but the digits make it seem like it was a mistake, plus the fact that if he really was a pilot, I don't think he would address the passengers with flight level, considering that many passengers might not know.

 

-He referred to the overbank as "going upside down".

 

-He also said "the Leviathan", which isn't a big deal to me - heck, I'd probably refer to it as "the Leviathan" occasionally, so I don't really care. However, I know that some guys here are picky about placing "the" before a coaster name, so just saying.

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He's a comedian doing a piece for a national mock news/ journal/ variety show. It was all a comedy routine so of course facts don't matter as long as you laugh. Yes, he was pretending to be a pilot. Again the spiel and tone were both accurate so who cares about exact numbers?

 

I find it really funny that someone can analyze a comedy set. Loved it and the show overall as well

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So I was at the park yesterday for my only visit for 2012. Based on my experience yesterday, I would say I prefer Leviathan over Behemoth. I was surprised to see such long lines all around the park, seeing as this time last year, I was able to hop between rides with almost no lines. Glad to see the park is doing well though.

 

Here's a compilation of the best Leviathan videos I got. Let me tell you, filming the bottom of the first drop was insane (those clips are around 3:15).

 

EDIT: Just finished up a general park video:

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We thought it was kind of like MF without the boring mid-section. Absolutely loved the first drop and the low speed hills.

 

It is pretty much B&M's take on Millennium Force. It has all the meat & potatoes of that layout. I wouldn't be surprised if CF went to them with a picture of Millennium Force and asked them how they felt about it.

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He's a comedian doing a piece for a national mock news/ journal/ variety show. It was all a comedy routine so of course facts don't matter as long as you laugh. Yes, he was pretending to be a pilot. Again the spiel and tone were both accurate so who cares about exact numbers?

 

I find it really funny that someone can analyze a comedy set. Loved it and the show overall as well

 

^Well said.

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The newest rumor on Screamscape is that Sky Rider is next on the chopping block, as part of this Great Purge that the whole chain is supposedly going to do in the near future. Personally I hope I can get up there again before it disappears; I was too little to ride it last time I went (1997), and I'd hate to leave that open-ended like that.

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I think Flight Deck and Time Warp really need to go. They are rough, outdated, and not class-competitve for what they are. I would replace these with a top of the line inverted (ex. a Raptor or an Afterburn), or a winged coaster (being the new fad). The other option could be some sort of a high-speed launched Intamin (ex. an Xcelerator or a Maverick). Now that Wonderland finally has a record-class ride in Leviathan, I would love to see Cedar Fair focus on improving the depth of the park.

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^^What? Take out an ACE landmark coaster for being the oldest stand up in North America?

 

Sky Rider is my favourite stand up and one of my favourite coasters at CW -- I'd really hate to see it go personally.

 

Realistically, if CW wanted to take out coasters, Dragon Fire would be gone instead of building the long bridge and break run for Leviathan to accommodate it. I agree about Flight Deck and Time Warp. They are in good shape and there is always a second hand market for those rides. Maybe La Ronde will take another?

 

A used SLC is also a great alternative to any park looking at a Golden Horse model

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The newest rumor on Screamscape is that Sky Rider is next on the chopping block, as part of this Great Purge that the whole chain is supposedly going to do in the near future. Personally I hope I can get up there again before it disappears; I was too little to ride it last time I went (1997), and I'd hate to leave that open-ended like that.

 

I'm torn about this. Skyrider actually isn't too bad, especially for a TOGO standup. It has some enjoyable pops of standing airtime that you can't really find on other rides. However, it's a capacity nightmare with extraordinarily long dispatch times. I guess taking it out in favour of a higher capacity ride would be advantageous for the park.

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"amba" was trademarked by Cedar Fair on the Canadian Governments Trademark database for use at Canada's Wonderland. The Trademark became registered on November 9th 2012. We know there really isn't anything coming next year as advertised or worthy of an announcement in 2012 operating season. So could this be the rumored 2014 wing rider? http://www.cipo.ic.gc.ca/app/opic-cipo/trdmrks/srch/cntnBscSrch.do;jsessionid=0001joFmi5UIxIiZRt1CJNoozHr:-1B0PLHD?textField1=Cedar+Fair&selectField1=ownname&useblg=bscSrch.do%3Flang%3Deng&languageDirection=f&lang=eng&submitButton=Search

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"amba" was trademarked by Cedar Fair on the Canadian Governments Trademark database for use at Canada's Wonderland. The Trademark became registered on November 9th 2012. We know there really isn't anything coming next year as advertised or worthy of an announcement in 2012 operating season. So could this be the rumored 2014 wing rider? http://www.cipo.ic.gc.ca/app/opic-cipo/trdmrks/srch/cntnBscSrch.do;jsessionid=0001joFmi5UIxIiZRt1CJNoozHr:-1B0PLHD?textField1=Cedar+Fair&selectField1=ownname&useblg=bscSrch.do%3Flang%3Deng&languageDirection=f&lang=eng&submitButton=Search

 

Who said we weren't getting anything in 2013? You do know something is coming to Splash Works in 2013, just the scale of it is unkown. The rumour is that a new waterslide will open in 2013 and now with the Mamba trademarked and the description of what the trademark is for, it sounds like we could possibly be looking at a water coaster similar to Riverrush going to Dollywood.

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The newest rumor on Screamscape is that Sky Rider is next on the chopping block, as part of this Great Purge that the whole chain is supposedly going to do in the near future. Personally I hope I can get up there again before it disappears; I was too little to ride it last time I went (1997), and I'd hate to leave that open-ended like that.

 

No its not, this was asked at the Q&A at Leviathan bash and they said the coaster was one of the cheapest to run in the park. They also said that if they were going to take one out, it would be sledgehammer because it has numerous problems and is not actually that exciting.

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^Hmmm...I don't remember them saying that they were thinking of taking out Sledgehammer because it broke down a lot and wasn't exciting. I do remember them talking about their disappointment about it's reliability, but I didn't recall them stating that they were thinking of removing it.

 

Personally, I like the ride despite it's obvious glitches. Yeah, it could go a bit faster and have a better program, but I still think that it's a very fun and original flat. But, it would make sense that if they didn't get the bugs eventually worked out of it after several years in the park, it could end up on the chopping block.

 

Although...I could think of about six or seven roller coasters there that I would rather see removed before Sledgehammer.

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Dom, it's not going to be a water coaster as Mamba is the fastest land snake... Don't see how Mamba ties into water ride.. This is my take on it, the trademark was filed November 9 2012, to prepare for teasers and a 2013 announcement for a 2014 coaster. Trademark it in late 2012 to assure they have the rights to the name for a 2013 season announcement. I've listened to all of the conference calls for Cedar Fair and they always mention how Canada's Wonderland remains top for attendance and the last conference call they mentioned how for the first time ever Canada's Wonderland made more revenue then the other parks.

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Dom, it's not going to be a water coaster as Mamba is the fastest land snake... Don't see how Mamba ties into water ride.. This is my take on it, the trademark was filed November 9 2012, to prepare for teasers and a 2013 announcement for a 2014 coaster. Trademark it in late 2012 to assure they have the rights to the name for a 2013 season announcement. I've listened to all of the conference calls for Cedar Fair and they always mention how Canada's Wonderland remains top for attendance and the last conference call they mentioned how for the first time ever Canada's Wonderland made more revenue then the other parks.

 

I'm not saying you're wrong here, but a King Cobra isn't a "water snake," either--yet that's the name of the new water slide at Six Flags Great Adventure, So, as long as a water coaster is long and "snakelike," it wouldn't surprise me if Canada's Wonderland went with "Mamba" as a name for it.

 

Just throwing that out for consideration. I have no idea what CW may have in store for next year.

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Dom, it's not going to be a water coaster as Mamba is the fastest land snake... Don't see how Mamba ties into water ride.. This is my take on it, the trademark was filed November 9 2012, to prepare for teasers and a 2013 announcement for a 2014 coaster. Trademark it in late 2012 to assure they have the rights to the name for a 2013 season announcement. I've listened to all of the conference calls for Cedar Fair and they always mention how Canada's Wonderland remains top for attendance and the last conference call they mentioned how for the first time ever Canada's Wonderland made more revenue then the other parks.

 

I'm not saying you're wrong here, but a King Cobra isn't a "water snake," either--yet that's the name of the new water slide at Six Flags Great Adventure, So, as long as a water coaster is long and "snakelike," it wouldn't surprise me if Canada's Wonderland went with "Mamba" as a name for it.

 

Just throwing that out for consideration. I have no idea what CW may have in store for next year.

 

I just feel like if "Mamba" was meant for 2013 it would have been trademarked much earlier then November 2012.. I really feel like this name is for a 2014 coaster, obviously biased but yeah aha

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During our Coasting for Kids tour, it was mentioned that Sledge Hammer Is getting a full overhaul in the off-season to hopefully address the majority of issues. The program was a bit different this year-- a bit more intense than in past years. It's such a fun ride.

 

I think during the Q&A that the GM made it clear that if it was his choice, his top priority would be to put a flume back in. He also said that it may not happen right away since it isn't the most practical ride at a seasonal park.

 

A water coaster would be amazing! Given that they cost as much as a roller coaster that probably wouldn't happen so soon. Chuck, a Wildebeest would totally make Water Country even better than it already is

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