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Not going to lie I'm slightly disappointed, was hoping for more twistys. But I am more excited than disappointed as a B&M fan boy. I'm glad they finally broke into the giga game and I think the first 1/3 of the ride (drop turn and low hill) are going to be intense and fun as hell. The last 2/3 looks to play out just like any other of their hypers. Earlier in the thread somebody mentioned that the final brake run had some height to it and should have made a twisty ending. I agree this should have happened but money is the real factor and I understand why they didn't do this. Either way I really need to get to Canada next summer to ride this and the 15 other credits there.

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I see Leviathan coming after Behemoth a lot like when a park builds back to back wooden coasters. Holiday World being a good example, Raven, Legend, Voyage... same type of ride but with very different layouts. That's why I'm surprised some people aren't receiving Leviathan well, it's not going to FEEL like Behemoth.

 

Do you really think that? With B&M the last 5-10 years if there's one thing I've come to expect is that the rides will FEEL exactly the same! Goliath, Goliath, Intimidator, and even the older hypers and newer ones, I could close my eyes and have no clue which one is which!

I totally agree with this - I've been on quite a few B&M Hypers now, almost back to back in the past 14 months - Silver Star, Apollo, Nitro, Goliath, Goliath, Intimidator, Diamondback, Hollywood Dream, etc, and Elissa is right, they all feel exactly the same.

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Makes me wonder if this coaster was originally intended for Knott's and had to get moved.

 

My thoughts exactly.......

 

Everyone keeps commenting on Knotts as the original home, aside from the park needing a coaster like this, what are other hints that this was for Knotts?

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I'm really impressed with the layout despite the similarities to Millennium Force. And I think its great to see B&M getting creative and innovative again as of late, seeing all the wingriders and now a giga coaster, as well as the Starry Night Ripper flying coaster innovations, is really good to see from a company I thought was fading a bit.

 

The only thing I dont like about this is that there will now be TWO Beemer hypers in the same park. Well, I guess one is a Beemer giga, but you get the point. The decision is just a head-scratcher for me, and makes me wonder if this could've been intended for another CF park but instead needed to be moved here. I guess thats what prompted Robb's thread about this.

 

Looks sick though, I must say.

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I kept editing a post as I kept looking into this and by the time I posted it it was about 10 posts old. I hope it's okay if I just make a new post...

 

Anyway This ride may really have been meant for Dorney. We know they're having issues with height variances lately and they removed Laser a few years before putting anything in it's place... just throwing that out there.

 

Take a look at this view of Dorney.

 

And this picture of Leviathin.

 

I wouldn't be shocked if they just mirrored the design exactly as is to fit it into Canada's Wonderland (Kind of like they did with a few of the Batman clones). That design could have had it's station where Laser was and then stay by Lincoln Avenue and the Dorney overflow lot. Do they own all of that land? It looks like they do.

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^^^^ Compare that layout image, to this: http://intimidator.carowinds.com/public/ride/layout.cfm. Basically, the ride is a more badass verison of the very "blah" Intimidator down at Carowinds.

 

I totally agree with this - I've been on quite a few B&M Hypers now, almost back to back in the past 14 months - Silver Star, Apollo, Nitro, Goliath, Goliath, Intimidator, Diamondback, Hollywood Dream, etc, and Elissa is right, they all feel exactly the same.

 

And yes, I agree. Every hyper I have been on (Intimidator, Apollo's Chariot, Diamondback, ect.) feels the same and that's depending on if the trims on the airtime hills hit hard or not. Very fun enjoyable rides, but not thrilling at all. You can have a conversation with the person sitting next to you the whole time while on B&M hypers...

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Makes me wonder if this coaster was originally intended for Knott's and had to get moved.

 

My thoughts exactly.......

 

Everyone keeps commenting on Knotts as the original home, aside from the park needing a coaster like this, what are other hints that this was for Knotts?

 

Pure speculation as none of us are on Cedar Fair's Planning and Development team.

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i find it strange that Canada's wonderland is getting another large coaster when they already have one and im even more surprised that they would choose the same company. but it doesnt matter because i am most likely going to get there in 2012 my current park lineup for th next four months months is:

 

Marineland (definitely)

Martins fantasy island (hopefully)

Darien lake (hopefully)

Michigans adventure (definitely)

cedar point (definitely)

Busch gardens williamsburg (hopefully)

universal studios (definitley)

Legoland florida (definitly)

Busch gardens tampa (hopefully)

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^ Yeah, I have not been following CW, so seeing this on TPR's front page was a huge shocker. And yeah, my first thought was "...don't they already have Behemoth? What will this add to the park other than a 306' lift hill?"

 

Well either way, it definitely looks like something to check out, with it being B&M's first giga. We can only hope for a nice, forceful ride, but only time will tell.

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I kept editing a post as I kept looking into this and by the time I posted it it was about 10 posts old. I hope it's okay if I just make a new post...

 

Anyway This ride may really have been meant for Dorney. We know they're having issues with height variances lately and they removed Laser a few years before putting anything in it's place... just throwing that out there.

 

Take a look at this view of Dorney.

 

...

 

I actually really like this - maybe public/county approval couldn't be achieved, and that's why they got sent the Invertigo while CW got Leviathan? After all, why does a park need an Inverigo, an impulse, and a B&M invert? Interesting...

 

Honestly I think this ride could be plopped down on the border of a lot of parks - now all that matters is that CW is the one actually getting it!

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This looks like another impressive coaster in B&M's already impressive lineup.

 

However......I will agree with a lot of people in that watching the POV I was thinking nice place for a Mid-Course brake run, then saw it was the final brakes! It feels eerily short for the speed it must surely be carrying at the brakes.

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This ride looks quite good in my opinion. I really liked Diamondback, Goliath, and Apollo's Chariot, and this seems to be a plus-sized version of all the best elements of these rides. Although definitely not as intense as the Intamin mega/giga coasters like I305, the grace of B&M megacoasters is a lot of fun. Although a little odd with Behemoth so recently, it looks like it will offer a slightly different ride experience and the different trains are honestly probably enough to differentiate the ride from behemoth in the general public's eyes. I'm excited to see this one rise. And for B&M fans to stop insisting B&M will 'never' go over 230 feet.

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I will make it to CW next season to get on this! I agree it's kind of an odd choice with behemoth and all... But who cares! I'm just glad that there are two awesome B&M hypers that I'll have the opportunity to ride.

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B&M will NEVER build over 310 feet.

 

At a Cedar Fair park!!!

 

I seriously sometimes wonder if they should split CP off to another company. I really feel like that park holds back the other parks in the chain sometimes!

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