clewis4u Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 *NEW PICTURE FOR EVERYONE! ENJOY* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandaman Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 ^Does the helix seem massive to anyone else but me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clewis4u Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 It actually seems smaller or about the same size as the helix on Goliath at SFOG. I will be impressed by this coaster only if there are extremely positive reviews after it. Behemoth doesn't look like a bad coaster but it seems very overrated already. And I hate the new trains. Who wants to yell to their friend on a coaster just to have a conversation? Do people seriously talk on coasters? It's usually screaming in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Behemoth230 Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 It actually seems smaller or about the same size as the helix on Goliath at SFOG. I will be impressed by this coaster only if there are extremely positive reviews after it. Behemoth doesn't look like a bad coaster but it seems very overrated already. And I hate the new trains. Who wants to yell to their friend on a coaster just to have a conversation? People scream on coasters most of the time, not talk the whole ride. And how can you talk on a hyper coaster that goes at almost 80 mph? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandaman Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 ^Eh, I talk sometimes on coasters... usually to express my displeasure or to point out the on-ride cameras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scaparri Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 ^^Exactly. I don't get what the point of the new trains are. What advantage do they give over the usual inline 4, or 2x2 on most coasters? I personally like sitting right next to my friends too. I don't necessarily have conversations, but I like having the ability to interact. The Behemoth trains just seem very gimmicky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clewis4u Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 I don't get what the point of the new trains are. What advantage do they give over the usual inline 4, or 2x2 on most coasters? They're prototype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scaparri Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 Yeah, again, exactly. They maybe a prototype, but there has to be some intention for creating this prototype, which remains a mystery to me. Maybe to make the trains feel more open? I don't know. Either way, I don't really care for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnage Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Maybe it's a special talent but I love having conversations on coasters. And let's say that a couple want to ride. Why would they want to be separated? Maybe they wanted to hold hands. And what is the advantage to having this disadvantage? I'm not trying to attack Behemoth, but I'm curious. Then they sit in the front two seats. I don't really see the fuss about the new trains. So what if they're different. If you really want to have a conversation with someone sit in the front two seats. And besides, those back two seats aren't so far apart that you wouldn't be able to say something to the person sitting there. I'm curious how the new stadium seating will affect the ride itself. I'm a big fan of the Intamin hyper trains, and these seem kind of like B&Ms version of them. (except with the extra space between the back two seats). If it rides well, and produces good airtime in those back two seats, then who cares if a few people are upset that they can't have annoying conversations with each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparebear75 Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 We'll see this coming season, if it's an issue then the line for the front seats in each car will be substantially longer than the rear will. Time will tell in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraken613 Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 I just dont get why people complain about a coaster thats not even open! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clewis4u Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 I just dont get why people complain about a coaster thats not even open! We think alike! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clewis4u Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 If there was a logical reason for the prototype change, I could understand more. The reason for this is in the press release. "Intensifying the action packed adventure, the ride will feature prototype open-air seating that will allow all riders to experience an unobstructed view of all the thrills and excitement on one of North America's best coasters." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraken613 Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Im not praising it! Im just saying theres no point in putting it down! For all we know the trains could rock! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PURE Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 ^Exactly. And I think they will, heres why: If there was a logical reason for the prototype change, I could understand more. I just don't understand why they are changing something that seems already great. I don't think the B&M sitdown trains are that great at all for a couple reasons. The 4 across seating doesn't provide the "open air" feeling, and the seatbacks are so high, the view was horrible. Another reason is if you look at this picture, I think a big reason why most B&M coasters like this one are so tame, is because of where the seats are positioned--directly above the wheels, It affects a lot of the airtime and positioning of the cars while they're riding the track. With these prototype seats, the seats are positioned between the wheels, much like most Intamin hyper trains, which I really think will improve the overall experience of the ride. Also, the spread out V seating, will provide a better view and a more "open ride" feeling. In my opinion, these seats will definitely make the ride experience improve. In fact, I don't see how they couldn't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnage Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 I don't get why people are praising a coaster that's not even open! It's the same logic. I'm not bashing the coaster. I'm bashing the trains. If there was a logical reason for the prototype change, I could understand more. I just don't understand why they are changing something that seems already great. I don't really see a whole lot of praising going on here. In fact the reaction to this ride has been very luke warm after the initial hype wore off. Most of the people I see talk about the ride are more being "cautiously optimistic". But you're criticizing trains that aren't even on site yet. You really have no idea what they will look/ride like. None of us do. For all you know the new trains could be awesome. Should probably wait until at least you get some first hand accounts of the ride to make an opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clewis4u Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Behemoth230 has sent me an important text message. However, he does not want me to say anything until he posts it himself. This is very exciting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christianscoasters Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 ^Trains have arrived? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginzo Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 With these prototype seats, the seats are positioned between the wheels, much like most Intamin hyper trains, which I really think will improve the overall experience of the ride. Also, the spread out V seating, will provide a better view and a more "open ride" feeling. I'm not holding my breath for extreme -g forces on a B&M coaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downunder Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Like many in the thread, I'm cautiously optimistic. I find it frustrating that these B & M hypers have layouts to die for but so little force, and I'm always wishing if only they had Intamin trains on those tracks. The new train design looks like it would logically increase the forces but we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraken613 Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Im guessing the trains arrived! Or track is done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Jay Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 Yup, she's done. Now what are we supposed to talk about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clewis4u Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 Yep, she sure is done. Here's an exclusive picture courtesy of Behemoth230: http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd17/Behemoth230/Behemoth%20construction/100_0051.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clewis4u Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 Here's some more Behemoth pictures. Thanks Behemoth230! Doh, looks like Cedar Fair forgot to de-paramount something: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraken613 Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 Dang that things HUGE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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