Canada's Wonderland Discussion Thread

coasterexpert · November 26, 2007

There is no doubt in my mind that this will be the best coaster ever created. It has everything needed to take the #1 spot right from the start. Move over Millinium Force, Behemoth is coming through.

Carnage · November 26, 2007

It has everything needed to take the #1 spot right from the start. Move over Millinium Force, Behemoth is coming through.

No it doesn't. It doesn't have the legions of over loyal fans to float it up the rankings.

Coaster rankings are partly due to the ride, and partly due to the park/area it's in.

Move Millenum Force from Cedar Point, and stick it in some out of the way obscure park, and it would fall far down the rankings.

Even if this ride ends up blowing it's expecations out of the water, I doubt it's going to get very high on the rankings. Maybe after a few years or people riding it, it could move up a bit. But my guess would be that it comes in below all the other B&M hypers.

yankees15 · November 26, 2007

^^I doubt Behemoth is going to beat out Millennium Force, Superman Ride of Steel (NE), Expedition GeFroce, El Toro, or Balder. I will be a great coaster but most likely not the "best".

coasterexpert · November 26, 2007

I don't know bud, it certainly looks like it could take the title from Millinium Force. Farenheit could do the same.

PURE · November 26, 2007

Its a B&M hyper and although I'm sure those trains will help with the forces, it is a B&M hyper.

Millennium Force isn't a number 1 coaster anyway, so I don't see the point of argument. However I do see a point in arguing that MF is about as forceless as most B&M hypers out there.

coastrfreak2000 · November 26, 2007

There is no doubt in my mind that this will be the best coaster ever created.

I'd like to know what's going on in your mind...

ginzo · November 26, 2007

Even if this ride ends up blowing it's expecations out of the water, I doubt it's going to get very high on the rankings. Maybe after a few years or people riding it, it could move up a bit. But my guess would be that it comes in below all the other B&M hypers.

Although it may not edge out Nitro or Goliath SFoG, I bet it beats Raging Bull.

Carnage · November 26, 2007

I don't know bud, it certainly looks like it could take the title from Millinium Force. Farenheit could do the same.

It won't, trust me.

The golden tickets are dominated by certain markets like Cedar Point,etc. The rankings are heavily weigthed to where the votes are coming from. Behemoth won't rank high, because it won't have as much backing.

And polls like Mitchs poll are going to have it lower, as it's ridership is not going to be as much as some of the existing top rides.

Not to take anything away from the ride, it's probably going to be really good. But being in Canada means that it's not going end up as high on these rankings as it would if it was built in the US.

These coaster rankings, regardless of which method you want to look at are influenced by enthusiasts. And frankly, Canadian coaster enthusiasts are probably out numbered by Ohio enthusasts at least 10 to 1.

Shockwave · November 26, 2007

There is no doubt in my mind that this will be the best coaster ever created. It has everything needed to take the #1 spot right from the start. Move over Millinium Force, Behemoth is coming through.

Wow, so does that mean the lift hill is gonna get some trashcans?

Move Millenum Force from Cedar Point, and stick it in some out of the way obscure park, and it would fall far down the rankings.

Hey, didn't you see that unbelievably crazy Coaster Universe News Team show? It's getting moved to Williams Grove in '09! It's bound to be the best coaster in the world once it's there!

Acero · November 26, 2007

While I'm not a Behemoth fan (I much prefer Six's collection of BM hypers), Behemoth is a little more "original" than Goliath. Goliath SFLR is just hill, hill, hill, hill, turnaround, hill...you get the point. Behemoth has a better turnaround, and some better ending elements.

But despite this, it still isn't going to be the best BM hyper. Just a better one than Goliath La Ronde in my opinion.

CP_RULES · November 26, 2007

There is no doubt in my mind that this will be the best coaster ever created. It has everything needed to take the #1 spot right from the start. Move over Millinium Force, Behemoth is coming through.

It definitely wont be the best coaster ever created, but I'm sure it'll be better than MF. Heck, chasing a squirrel might be more fun than riding that drawn-out overrated piece of mediocrity.

clewis4u · November 26, 2007

http://behemoth.canadaswonderland.com/_upload/photo_gallery/construction/2007_1126_03.jpg

New picture official from CW.

yankees15 · November 26, 2007

^Gotta love the view from 230 feet in the air.

November 27, 2007

And polls like Mitchs poll are going to have it lower, as it's ridership is not going to be as much as some of the existing top rides.

Mitch's poll attempts to correct for that. Considering there are several very highly ranked coasters in Europe and Japan there is no reason a coaster in Canada can't do just as well.

For steel coasters Europe had 4 of the top 5 last year.

Carnage · November 27, 2007

And polls like Mitchs poll are going to have it lower, as it's ridership is not going to be as much as some of the existing top rides.

Mitch's poll attempts to correct for that. Considering there are several very highly ranked coasters in Europe and Japan there is no reason a coaster in Canada can't do just as well.

For steel coasters Europe had 4 of the top 5 last year.

It definetly does a better job then most polls.

I'd guess that the ride will do better in Mitch's then it will the golden tickets. I'd guess that it won't do better then the 20s.