B&MIntaminGCI Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 And so it begins... I don't personally care. I'm saying that on behalf of the park. With all the hype the park's put into this ride it'll be a heartbreaker to see the new coaster become a let down and not boost attendance. It's also a huge risk for CW to become B&Ms guinea pig. What makes a giga a giga is usually it's intensity (am I wrong?). B&M hasn't been known for it's intensity, so B&M will have to step up it's game to compete with Intamin. 1990's Beemers are known for their intensity, and it looks as if B&M is going back to their roots, they're making new types of rides (wing-rider) and whatever this may be. Look at the new inverted coaster going to Parc Asterix, it looks as intense if not more intense than the Batman Clones. So who knows how intense it will be, but whatever it is, it won't disappoint me since I haven't been on a B&M that's disappointed me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharkTums Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 I approve of the Leviathan name...it sounds like a good SyFy Saturday movie!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudvayneimn Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 I'm really digging the name and logo. I revised my thinking. With the name Leviathan, my guess is this will be the first Giga with inversions, and one or two will take the "world's tallest" crown. Either way, it looks like a trip to Canada will be imminent next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitrous Oxide Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Wow, if this truely is a 300+ft BM... truely shocked. I've just read the past 20 pages. And I saw the post about 350ft at 98mph... I'm curious if maybe the coaster will actually hit 100 and be the first non-launched coaster to break 100mph? If that were the case, give me some lap bars (please no OTSR) and I'm all in. I really would not like to see an "tallest inversion".. just a straight foward airtime filled giga please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saldek Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Every time I hear "Leviathan" I think of the Hellraiser movies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 With all the hype the park's put into this ride Dude, the park has actually put like ZERO hype into the ride. The hype has been created by all of you. (meaning us) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJeXeL Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 And it will be sad if it turns out that no hype was needed for a floorless/invert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilltopper39 Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 A couple of thoughts A traditional chain lift for a gigga might work if the chain is smaller (smaller train) and the lift is steeper. Steel dragon pulls a giant train up a long gradual incline. Think Shikra with smaller trains and a slightly steeper lift. On The shorter track length speculation by some, it still might be a gigga dive coaster. I don't know how small the track length number was that some heard, but Sheikra is just under 3200 feet, add a couple hundred more feet on the lift and drop and you could easily have a 300ft dive coaster under 3500-3700 feet track length which is still relatively short. In the past BandM has historically built smaller prototype versions of a new concept coaster a few years before building a much larger full version. Iron Wolf and Vortex before Mantis, Batman before Top Gun and Raptor, Oblivion before Sheikra. Even though X-Raptor seems to be an exception, I expect to see a much larger version of a mini dive coaster like Krake in the future maybe here at Wonderland. And on the comments that some have made about possibly having a gigga or dive coaster in the same park as a hyper by the same manufacturer. Griffon and Apollos Chariot at BGW seem to work pretty well, so do magnum and Millennium (different mfg, I know). I think if the experience is unique enough it will work just fine, besides 90% of park goers could care less just us nerds. I'd love to see a B&M launch coaster and this very well be one, but Im still betting on a 300+ ft dive machine with the smaller trains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJeXeL Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 ^Steel Dragon also has 2 lift chains Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthewrydzik Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 If you type in http://leviathan.canadaswonderland.com/public/latest/blog/ it takes you to http://leviathan.canadaswonderland.com/public/latest/blog/2011/8/16/Birth_of_a_Leviathan.cfm; further confirming that it is the site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanKgtr Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 ^ Sounds like we'll get a construction blog too! Either way I'm excited, less than 12 hours! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dietcokevan Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 I can't wait to see this thing. I'm really hoping for a giga! And if people are worried that its going to be too similar to Behemoth, B&M could go with a more twisty "Raging Bull" type of layout. And with the Dick Kinzel quote about breaking records, this could be a giga and "break" the 300ft barrier, which has not been done in Canada on a coaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilltopper39 Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 ^Steel Dragon also has 2 lift chains I know, that's what Im saying Steel Dragon pulls giant 30+ passenger trains up a long gradual lift incline that's why it has 2 chains. If you pull a smaller lighter train up a much steeper lift hill (less length= less chain =less weight) then one chain might handle the load and work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CW_Leviathan Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 (edited) Leaked image of Leviathan.... Edited August 17, 2011 by robbalvey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griffonj2022 Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 (edited) I am in LOVE with that ride logo...can't wait to wake up at 7 and check the site to see what's happened! I'm betting on a giga, but it's going to be something that I can't expect. It always is... Please only click if you would like to be spoiled. f.cl.ly/items/290Y3h3T06453K0v0623/tracks.png Holy S***!!!!!!!! If that's not one of the best things I have ever seen in my life I don't know what is!!!!! Edited August 17, 2011 by griffonj2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueerRudie Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 NICE... but I have to say it... I've been holding back... "B&M Hypercoaster #2 looks too intense for me" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intimidator305 Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 (edited) Looks amazing! Four seats per row will make it different than Behemoth in the GP's eyes. Also, if that concept art is correct, it looks like B&M might have gotten an idea from Intamin on Intimidator 305 with the top being an arch with no supports! Edited August 17, 2011 by Intimidator305 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCForce Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Well, it better be a record breaker, lol. Leviathan also means roughly from memory"the largest of it's kind or exceptionally large" or something along those lines....as well as having water/sea monster connotations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CW_Leviathan Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 It honestly looks very much like Behemoth 2.0. That's not necessarily a bad thing, though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayzle Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Where'd you find that? and it still doesn't tell me much, just rules out my prediction of most inversions hahah. Btw why the old school trains? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dietcokevan Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Wow, looks twisty! So it won't be exactly the same as Behemoth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B&MIntaminGCI Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 (edited) It also looks like B&M has stepped in the whole game of I305 lift supports because the crest of the hill doesn't have any supports at all. Also unless they left it out of the graphics, I don't see any scoops on the train for a splashdown Edited August 17, 2011 by B&MIntaminGCI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GriffyTiffy Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 I'm VERY impressed by that photo! Can't wait til tomorrow morning! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skycoastin Steve Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Just remember where you heard Leviathan first. So I guess I was wrong about it not being a lift hill, but that was just pure speculation. I'm just eager as hell to find out what exactly this ride will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B&MIntaminGCI Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 I've never been to Canada's Wonderland, nor do I know if Behemoth has sand in it's tracks. But, if they don't put sand in the tracks, I can already picture how loud the B&M roar will be at the high speeds, especially if this is really a Giga and it's 98 mph. I am so stoked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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