TR: Unbelievable story about queue jumpers at Disneyland

[Xtreme-me]

Look, Reading through this thread has made me extremely mad. It pisses me off that anyone would accuse anyone of being a racist when he was clearly addressing who the person who committed the offence here. If the person who cut in front of him was a bunch of teenage white guys, he would have said it. It does not mean that he is in any form a racist. He reported his story accurately and clearly and it is absolutely revolting that anyone would call him a racist. Any of you who posted in this thread, what would you have done in reporting this story. Would you have left out entirely what kind of person it was who did this? No, you would have attached some sort of tag to them, whether it is teenager, adult, child, anyone. He wasn't being a racist at all. Stating the fact of someones race in no way makes him a racist. He would have called her a B*tch if she was white or any other race.

 

There is too much talk of racism in this thread. Stating facts does not make you a racist. Stating facts makes your story accurate.

 

I'm crossing my fingers and hoping that none of this stuff happens around me when I go to Disneyland for my B-day party tomorrow! that would suck.

[redfoot12]

^Jew

[RaptorBoyASU]

^^I think the backlash had more "history" behind it than what was actually said in this thread.

[socalMAN123]

I'm surprised asians haven't made it into this conversation yet.

---Brent

[RaptorBoyASU]

I think they have, I think that's what started the "joining the rest of your party" convo.

[Rastuso]

Yep, my history of always pointing out what type of people line cut in front of me. Since I rarely witness white people cutting, I'm a racist in some folks' eyes. During my 2 days at DL, I had the latino incident, a huge arguement with an Asian lady that I mentioned, and a black guy a few people in front of me that kept waving more and more black kids up with him in line for Screamin'. The one white girl that was trying to get past me was at Xcelerator, and we were literally only 6 people from the station, and the woman with her said to just wait.

 

Some people would say that is racist. I say it is the cold hard facts. Just because some people refuse to admit that some races cause more problems than others in the US does NOT mean it's not true. Look at the prison population, look at the stream of terror suspects captured. There are very clear racial patterns. It's not racism, it's fact, backed up by reality. Ignoring it will never make it change or go away.

 

-R

[socalMAN123]

^Yeah, some asian families think that they can leave the line entirely and then come back right into the same spot. It's pretty sad.

---Brent

[Neogreeneyez]

Some people would say that is racist. I say it is the cold hard facts. Just because some people refuse to admit that some races cause more problems than others in the US does NOT mean it's not true. Look at the prison population, look at the stream of terror suspects captured. There are very clear racial patterns. It's not racism, it's fact, backed up by reality. Ignoring it will never make it change or go away.

 

-R

 

I have an idea!!! How about we just put all the Arabs, Latinos, Jews, African Americans, and just about everyone else who causes crime and put them in Jail... Then we'd have a CLEAN nation eh? No one would ever cut lines again lol

 

On a serious note, I agree with the people who said the parks should implement a ticket solution like I've seen at some parks. You get a ticket at the beginning of the line and then have to hand it over at the end of it... this would eliminate most line jumpers...

 

Justin-on my way to Jail-Neogreeneyez

[kraxleRIDAH]

^Yeah, some asian families think that they can leave the line entirely and then come back right into the same spot. It's pretty sad.

---Brent

 

Ha. You think that's a problem here? Three words: Hong Kong Disneyland.

[robbalvey]

I have an idea!!! How about we just put all the Arabs, Latinos, Jews, African Americans, and just about everyone else who causes crime and put them in Jail... Then we'd have a CLEAN nation eh? No one would ever cut lines again lol

Nah, you can put some of the angry white dudes in there too. Only keep the cool ones in the "clean" nation.

 

Put Joey Fatone in there too, BTW. He might be clean to some people, but I think deep down he's pretty evil.

 

--Robb

[Rastuso]

^^Wow, that's racist to say you should put them all in jail. I just think the ones that actually do bad things should be confronted and dealth with. But political correctness gets in the way of that a lot. I love it when they talk about wanted individuals now on the news and they'll say something like "a 35 year old man in a white truck". They won't even say anything about the most identifiable characteristic of that person, because that might be racist. And it makes the capture of that person damn near impossible.

 

The last two days has been a perfect example in another way. Yesterday, William Jefferson, a Democrat, was convicted of bribery and corruption. Most news stories, including the official AP articles, didn't mention anything about his political affiliation. But today, Scooty Libby was convicted of having a bad memory, and you can be damned sure every article mentions he's a Republican.

 

There are plenty of criminal white people. Most serial killers are white.

 

-r

[ginzo]

Nah, you can put some of the angry white dudes in there too. Only keep the cool ones in the "clean" nation.

 

Put Joey Fatone in there too, BTW. He might be clean to some people, but I think deep down he's pretty evil.

 

--Robb

 

Why stop at Fatone? I think all Italians should be locked up. All they do is steal parking meters, eat pasta, jump line, and plan hits.

[RaptorBoyASU]

^^LOL to "having a bad memory". There seems to be a lot of people with bad memories in Washington these days. Having a bad memory is the new pink.

 

-Kyle "I do not recall" Miller

[freestylenut]

Holy crud! So me & my family have been "line jumping" forever then! I can't believe most of you would get mad if my ENTIRE party goes on line, 2 or 3 step out to use the CAN, come right back in to join us & can label us "line jumpers"!

 

I think that's a CROC of shiznit! U guys are TOO friggin' sensitive!

 

Most of U go to Halloween Horror Nights don't ya? EVERYONE line jumps at that place by U guys' definition (75% of the crowd is DRINKING for crying out loud!) My brother-in-law is a big beer drinker & he will do this 1 out of every 3 que lines we get on (step away to get a beer).

 

I'll probably open a can of sardines with this one, but I am LATIN afterall!

 

I reiterate, we don't "bully" our way to the front, its more of a "most of us are holding your spot on line" thing...geez guys, take a chill. If we're near the front we DO NOT hold up the line for our party, and we also do NOT let other people we know who happen to be in the back of the line to join us. There's a difference between what we do above & what inconsiderate people do to skip the line just for the sake of shaving off 15 or 30 minutes or so!!!

 

Gimme a break!

[freestylenut]

...However, I hate the "Go ahead and get in line, and I'll join you in 10 minutes" people. No, have your group wait for you. Especially when there's more than 1 person doing it in the group.

 

That's us...I've done this myself. Usually its not because I'm trying to be an "a$$", either my son (who is 6) has to go to the bathroom, my daughter needs a daiper change or an emergency drink of water is needed to prevent dehydration (U know how humid Florida can be).

 

Take care of business BEFORE getting on line!?!? Why would I wanna do that? That cuts valuable que line wait time!

 

U guys are too nitpicky!

[ginzo]

Holy crud! So me & my family have been "line jumping" forever then! I can't believe most of you would get mad if my ENTIRE party goes on line, 2 or 3 step out to use the CAN, come right back in to join us & can label us "line jumpers"!

 

Maybe you guys should try using Depends if you can't hold it.

[Wes]

I reiterate, we don't "bully" our way to the front, its more of a "most of us are holding your spot on line" thing...geez guys, take a chill. If we're near the front we DO NOT hold up the line for our party, and we also do NOT let other people we know who happen to be in the back of the line to join us. There's a difference between what we do above & what inconsiderate people do to skip the line just for the sake of shaving off 15 or 30 minutes or so!!!

 

Right, and there's a difference between you going 80 on the freeway and the guy going 100. But they are both still against the rules, and if someone calls out on that, then you better accept it.

[Ccron10]

Ain't it wierd that only white people are being accused of being racist these days?

 

As for that girl, she should've been kicked out and even though she probably would turn around and sued the park and call the security guard a racist, what's more important? Having a 13 yr. old saying f you in front of 5, 6, 7, or 8 yr. olds and ruining those families' day or kicking her out of the park and having peace of mind that there's one less rule violator out of the park "or at least until another one replace's him or her"?

[DerekRx]

I just wanna know how weak some people's bladders are if they can't hold it for the time they're in a queue. I drink a hell of a lot (shocker, I know) but I still have enough common sense and respect for the general population to take a whiz before I get in a line if I even have the slightest inkling that I'm gonna have to go in the time I'd be in line for. And the people I hang out with also have the decency to wait for me before they get in a line, they don't just continue on without me and have me try to shove my way past 100+ people to re-establish myself with them.

 

Do people line-jump at the airport security checks? No.

Do people line-jump at the bank? No

Is there line-jumping at the DMV? No

Then why do people think it's acceptable to line jump at amusement parks?

 

The ONLY times I can handle line jumping is if it won't affect the rest of the line. For instance, if you have 5 people, and your 1 friend gets in line, that doesn't really affect anything. But if you have 5 people and 3 more join the line, that moves everyone else who actually had the dignity to actually wait in a full line back by a row. The other time I can handle line jumping is if you are in line, and after like 2 hours in line that wasn't expected, like the line was only supposed to be 40 minutes, but has lots of breakdowns, you go pee and then return (or anything over 3 hours). But to have someone either get in line and then leave 5 minutes later, only to return 30 seconds before they're next to board because their friend calls them on the cellphone and tells them to hurry up, or to have someone not actually in the line from the beginning, that's just disrespectful to the rest of the people who actually waited. Then again, most of the world today is "All about me, I'm the most important, everyone else is far inferior to me"; or, in the case of the "minorities*," "just getting back for years of oppression."

 

As Todd Long always says, "if they were your real friends, they would have waited for you before getting in line, maybe they want to get rid of you."

 

*people who just like to play the racist card, has nothing to do with your sexuality or the color of your skin

[kraxleRIDAH]

...However, I hate the "Go ahead and get in line, and I'll join you in 10 minutes" people. No, have your group wait for you. Especially when there's more than 1 person doing it in the group.

 

Take care of business BEFORE getting on line!?!? Why would I wanna do that? That cuts valuable que line wait time!

 

That's exactly the kind of mentality that leads to making it less for for everyone else in the park.

 

It really isn't that hard nor time consuming to have everyone in your party squeeze out their bladder before entering a queue.

 

Holy crud! So me & my family have been "line jumping" forever then! I can't believe most of you would get mad if my ENTIRE party goes on line, 2 or 3 step out to use the CAN, come right back in to join us & can label us "line jumpers"!!

 

Yes, you and your family have been "line jumping forever." And no, we're not labeling you line jumpers. From the parks themselves, you are characterized as so.

 

According to Six Flags' Map & Guide:

 

LINE JUMPING -- Line jumping/line cutting or holding places in line is strictly prohibited. Guests are not permitted to save places in line or exit the line and return for any reason. Guests who violate this policy may be ejected from the park without a refund.

[haiderodes]

 

I'm still stunned, over 24 hours later, and am sending a formal

complaint to Disney that I expect no answer from. I realize the CM

was barely older than the girl cussing, but there were many kids

around. Now I'm no prude, and my son is clearly aware of this word,

and has heard it uttered by me before, but I'm shocked that at

Disneyland a girl can repeatedly yell "f*** you" in front of a CM and

not get booted from the ride if not the park. Hell, I've witness kids

get booted from my neighborhood pool for it.

 

We witnessed other rampant line cutting all over DL and DCA, and had

another big mixup in the Alice queue on Wednesday that was huge at the

time, but much smaller after the Indy episode. Has Disneyland gone to

hell in general like this? SFMM seemed positively civil in

comparison.

 

Rastus

 

I understand your frustration. I do suggest though, instead of sending the letter, you should have stopped by City Hall on Main Street...its the main guest relations center for the park. They are usually pretty good about keeping things in check. Might have more impact than a letter after the fact.

[kraxleRIDAH]

An interesting line jumping write-up

 

http://tastyresearch.wordpress.com/2006/09/21/cutting-in-line/

[robbalvey]

...However, I hate the "Go ahead and get in line, and I'll join you in 10 minutes" people. No, have your group wait for you. Especially when there's more than 1 person doing it in the group.

 

That's us...I've done this myself. Usually its not because I'm trying to be an "a$$", either my son (who is 6) has to go to the bathroom, my daughter needs a daiper change or an emergency drink of water is needed to prevent dehydration (U know how humid Florida can be).

 

Take care of business BEFORE getting on line!?!? Why would I wanna do that? That cuts valuable que line wait time!

 

Most of U go to Halloween Horror Nights don't ya? EVERYONE line jumps at that place by U guys' definition (75% of the crowd is DRINKING for crying out loud!) My brother-in-law is a big beer drinker & he will do this 1 out of every 3 que lines we get on (step away to get a beer).

 

 

U guys are too nitpicky!

Yeah, you're line jumping in your example. What you described actually does violate most parks line jumping policy and it's VERY rude. I have kids, we travel in groups, and we make sure we have everything sorted out before we get in line.

 

And your example at HHN, well, just because other people do it doesn't make it right or "ok" for you to do it too and it's probably not the best example to teach to your kids.

 

Getting yourself sorted out before you get in line not hard to do. Any half-way intelligent person can look at a line and see it's an hour and say "anyone need a drink or the bathroom before we get in line?" It's really not that hard to be a polite theme park patron.

 

Of course, if you're a REALLY smart theme park patron, you'll know how to navigate a park without having to wait in any lines at all. Look at the amount of theme parks Elissa and I do. I don't think we've waited in a line longer than 15 minutes in years.

 

--Robb

[coaster05]

I have line jumped once in my life and that was at Holliwood nights. I went all the way to my car and back to the turkey shooting ride and my wife was still in line because of a breakdown. I went through the line and most people understood, we didn't slow the line because of no single rider line and 4 seat vehicles, yet I still felt like crap doing it. There is no excuse for line jumping really, and all people have to do is inform the people they are with that it is not right. the problem is, regardless of race, that some people always feel the rules do not apply to them. Hence my story, proving I messed up, but will never do it again.

 

Rich "If the ride wouldn't have broke I would not have even had the opportunity" Bitner

[Rastuso]

^^^^Yeah, I regret not stopping at City Hall. But I would think all they would have done was to give me an exit pass like the CM did. I think actually writing a letter a week after it happens shows the seriousness of it. But, yeah, I should have stopped on the way to DCA.

 

^ That's a mighty long breakdown.