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P. 602: Universal Holidays & Velocicoaster photo report posted!

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Seems like I remember the last Saw house several years ago being fairly un-interesting, then again so was most everything they put in the Jaws extended que. Always had a huge line so maybe people enjoyed more than me, I'm sure it will draw big crowds this year as well.

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I like how they build a roller coaster in the same time it took them to built new lockers for Harry Potter.   

On Sunday I ventured out to the Universal Orlando Resort for a chance to see the new holiday offerings at the two parks. This year is a little different thanks to COVID-19, but Universal has still man

^Agreed. I think the newer Intamin lapbars are actually the best steel coaster restraint currently being produced. When comparing overhead lapbars on Taron and Blue Fire, I found the Intamin ones to b

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Bill and Ted are ready to rock at Universal Orlando’s Halloween Horror Nights before they move on to their future adventures. After 26 years of Excellent Halloween Adventures, these pop-culture icons are bringing their Farewell Tour to Halloween Horror Nights. Party on as the phone booth lands one more time at Universal Orlando.

 

Over the years, this show has morphed and shifted to fit with the changing tides of pop-culture. But at its heart, it has remained true to its nature. The Wyld Stallyns, from San Dimas—and their time-travelling phone booth—find themselves in the middle of pop-culture-parody chaos and must somehow save the world yet again.

 

But now the time has come for these most outstanding dudes to find adventure in other places and other times.

 

On a personal note, I’ve had the pleasure and privilege of writing for and directing Bill and Ted’s Excellent Halloween Adventure for the past 7 years. It goes without saying that this show means a lot to me. Working on Bill and Ted’s has become one of the most enjoyable parts of my year—and they have meant a lot to so many people.

 

Since 1992, hundreds of talented individuals have worked on its production and numerous performers have graced its stage. It also means a lot to the fans. Wyld Stallyn fans are loyal, supportive and the central reason the boys have had so many adventures.

 

The “Farewell Tour” gives us the perfect opportunity to give Bill S. Preston, Esquire and Ted “Theodore” Logan a proper sendoff. This year’s show is everything you’d expect from Bill and Ted’s Excellent Halloween Adventure. It’s relevant. It’s ridiculous. It’s irreverent. It’s edgy. And at the end of the day… it’s just a good time.

 

Years from now, we’ll look back at all of the unrestrained joy this show provided for so many of us. And honestly, there may never be anything quite like it again.

 

So, join us this Halloween. We’ll laugh. We’ll dance. We may shed a tear or two. We’ll take with us some most triumphant memories.

 

And we’ll never forget Bill and Ted’s simple mantra which still rings true today—“Be excellent to each other.”

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I guess this shouldn't be surprising, but it is a tad bit disappointing. This show was always a highlight of the event for me even though I'll admit it wasn't the best the last couple of years. Peak Bill & Ted is long gone and nothing in a theme park setting will probably ever be as politically incorrect and irreverently fun as the show used to be, but it was still enjoyable.

 

I hope it truly gets replaced with "something", another show in another venue even if that space gets allocated to future Potter expansions.

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The only positive I can try to imagine from this is that we could see the event go back to two parks or IOA plus soundstages again. I know they always used that show and theater as a crutch and reason/blame for why they couldn't do the event at IOA or both parks. Again, trying to be positive but I know I'm just dreaming.

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My Positive is that I have no need whatsoever for a Frequent Fear 2018 forward and can save that money for other Haunts. It's one of the only things at HHN that is memorable from year to year and fun to do with different friends, as the house layouts and style are so similar. I'll just go once next year on a slower night.

 

Go ahead Universal, Close Spiderman next or something.

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It's turned into "Ouch My Balls" for a few years now.

That and...

 

"HOW DARE YOU EVEN TAKE YOUR PHONE OUT AND IF YOU EVEN THINK ABOUT TAKING A PHOTO WE WILL BAN YOU FROM ORLANDO FOREVER LIKE OMG PUT YOUR PHONE AWAY RIGHT NOW SERIOUSLY LIKE RIGHT NOW!!!!!"

 

"Dude, I was just responding to a text...."

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It's turned into "Ouch My Balls" for a few years now.

That and...

 

"HOW DARE YOU EVEN TAKE YOUR PHONE OUT AND IF YOU EVEN THINK ABOUT TAKING A PHOTO WE WILL BAN YOU FROM ORLANDO FOREVER LIKE OMG PUT YOUR PHONE AWAY RIGHT NOW SERIOUSLY LIKE RIGHT NOW!!!!!"

 

"Dude, I was just responding to a text...."

This was a real thing?!

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http://www.halloweenhorrornights.com/orlando/hhn-news.php#SZ

 

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There is one aspect of Universal Orlando's Halloween Horror Nights no one can escape… the SCARE ZONES. They're the first and last things you'll experience, and it's our chance to make sure there is no way to hide from the scares.

 

This Halloween Horror Nights, we're inviting you to join the celebration of blood and bone at what can only be called The Festival of the Deadliest – an ancient tradition from the depths of where nightmares are born.

 

A gathering of the most unearthly, hellish terrors has emerged from the darkest corners of despair. It calls to those who long for the thrill of the scare and wish to have their fears made real. You'll be drawn like moths to a flame, and once you join this hallowed celebration, your nightmares will never end.

 

You'll find the heart of the Festival on the streets of Hollywood in Universal Studios Florida, but its claws have spread throughout Horror Nights. Here's what awaits you every night…

 

Trick 'r Treat

First up, it's time to make sure everyone understands the rules of our haunted holiday. Get a proper Halloween education in our Central Park scare zone inspired by the film Trick 'r Treat. We're excited to have Sam visit and make sure we follow the rules of Halloween.

 

As a longtime fan of classic horror anthology films, Trick 'r Treat is a favorite of mine that pays perfect homage to that genre. In this zone, you'll have the opportunity to come face-to-face with several characters from the film, and learn for yourself what happens when you don't follow the rules.

 

The Purge

Next up, we have a returning story to our New York streets with The Purge. This time, our approach was to create a zone that showed how we think the events of a Purge night might play out in our streets.

 

There are some fan favorites returning such as our auction and a very polite gentleman. We also have some new surprises in store. For example, how do you clean up all the mayhem on the streets during a Purge night? Visit the clean-crew up crew with their trusty wood chipper to find out. Just don't get too close…

 

Altars of Horror

Near the front gate, on Avenue of the Stars, we have our Altars of Horror. For me, this zone is very exciting because we're bringing something to the streets for our horror fans that we have never done before.

 

In this zone, we're taking some of the larger than life characters featured in this year's houses, and letting them have their own scare zone. A lot of work goes into bringing these iconic film characters to life in our houses. Now you'll have the opportunity to get an even better look at them.

 

Invasion!

Set in a time decades ago, our docks in San Francisco find themselves the victim of an INVASION! Visitors from far beyond have crashed their vessel, and are now wreaking havoc on the streets of San Francisco.

 

They aren't just here to destroy; these invaders are also on a mission to learn everything they can about us humans. Careful, or you may find yourself on the experiment table at the mercy of an alien scientist.

 

Roaming Hordes

Lastly, no Halloween Horror Nights would be complete without roaming hordes. This time, it's the smell of the greasepaint, the roar of the chainsaw. Unhappy with how popular culture has made clowns scary, this grotesque gang of gigglers has risen from the grave, determined to show the world that if you want scary clowns, they're going to make sure you get your worst nightmare.

 

ACADEMY OF VILLAINS: AFTERLIFE

But wait! There's more. The question is, "can you handle more?" I'm happy to share ACADEMY OF VILLAINS: AFTERLIFE will be returning to put on an all-new killer performance. This group of powerhouse artists will make you bear witness to what happens after we leave this life. They're going to give you one mind-blowing and shocking dance performance that will escort you from this world to the great beyond.

 

As you can see, the streets will be alive with plenty of horror, mayhem, and celebration. The opportunity to bring favorite horror films to life and tell our own unique horror stories makes every day a thrill. My favorite part of the event is walking the streets each night as our scare actors make these terror-filled tales a reality. Every scream I hear puts a huge smile on my face.

 

Pick up your tickets today—I'll see you out on the streets!

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^You're golden, though that last date is a Saturday. November is never busy and it usually doesn't go past the 1st or 2nd of Nov. . Last Bill and Ted show ever will probably be harder to get into than years past. Be sure to look at some of the online guides to plan your trek around the park.

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I went to HHN last year on a Friday and primarily focused on the scare zones/rides/Academy of Villains due to maze waits. I intended to catch Bill & Ted, but I couldn't see that there was a different schedule for Friday night vs Saturday night. I hate conga-lining though a haunt. Whether it's going through one or working one. Not everyone gets all the scares, and then it's not personal.

Speaking of which, I've always thought that the Saw franchise would work better as an escape game rather than a maze/scarezone. Saw will rely too much on Billy/the Pig Masks/jump scares from those in the traps and lose all meaning that the last 3 films did when they focused on Hoffman.

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Went and got KT her first and last rides on Dragons today (also my last rides). It really is a shame to get rid of two really awesome coasters that people get off of and run back around to the re-ride area. Look, I get that they don't duel and that sucks. I haven't ridden them much since they stopped that and in fact, this was my first time riding since the stupid metal detectors and lockers were put in, but DAMN, they're still running amazing, just like they did in 1999. I do question the decision to completely rebuild a ride that is themed to a property that your competitor now owns, while scrapping a ride 1000 feet away that ties into the biggest property you own. I blame JK Rowling mostly for this as we always knew she wasn't happy with Universal keeping those in 'her' area. The fact that Sinbad will remain while dragons gets scrapped is pretty harsh. Anyways, I've said my piece and I'm done. Here are some pix of KT!

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Yay for being 54"!

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She thought Fire was super intense and a really good ride.

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She thought Ice was REALLY good. One of the best coasters she had been on.

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Went and got KT her first and last rides on Dragons today (also my last rides). It really is a shame to get rid of two really awesome coasters that people get off of and run back around to the re-ride area. Look, I get that they don't duel and that sucks. I haven't ridden them much since they stopped that and in fact, this was my first time riding since the stupid metal detectors and fluffy, fluffy bunnies filled with medicine and goo were put in, but DAMN, they're still running amazing, just like they did in 1999. I do question the decision to completely rebuild a ride that is themed to a property that your competitor now owns, while scrapping a ride 1000 feet away that ties into the biggest property you own. I blame JK Rowling mostly for this as we always knew she wasn't happy with Universal keeping those in 'her' area. The fact that Sinbad will remain while dragons gets scrapped is pretty harsh. Anyways, I've said my piece and I'm done. Here are some pix of KT!

 

I know this has been said 1,000 times but what a waste of two great coasters! I expect nothing less from JK Rowling, at the end of the day its just another ego ruining things for other people.

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It is really sad, I agree with her on Ice Dragon! Definitely with my latest rides, I have found it to be one of the most intense inverts.. I rode it back to back within a day of Afterburn, and I must say that both sides of Dragons were notably more intense! And smooth.. :O (which is saying something because afterburn was my favorite invert until recently)

 

Plus, the only other invert I've ridden that matches the intensity of the cobra roll on ice is Alpengeist's cobra roll..

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It really is a shame to get rid of two really awesome coasters that people get off of and run back around to the re-ride area.

I waited at the exit today so that Elissa and Kristen could ride and that they didn't have to deal with the stupid lockers nonsense. I sat at watched so many people get off the ride and then immediately go to the re-ride line. Everyone that was leaving LOVED the ride. Talking about how great it was, etc.

 

Look, I get that they don't duel and that sucks. I haven't ridden them much since they stopped that and in fact, this was my first time riding since the stupid metal detectors and fluffy, fluffy bunnies filled with medicine and goo were put in, but DAMN, they're still running amazing, just like they did in 1999.

I'm not one to get emotional or really care when a ride closes because they are just rides and their closure will not affect my life much at all. But we are used to seeing rides close that are arguably considered "not great." I can tell you I never once saw someone get out of Universe of Energy or Great Movie Ride going "WOW! That was awesome! Let's get back in line right now!!!" but that was almost the majority of what I saw at Dragons this morning.

 

The fact that Sinbad will remain while dragons gets scrapped is pretty harsh. Anyways, I've said my piece and I'm done. Here are some pix of KT!

It's decisions like these that have made us visit Universal less frequently. They just aren't building attractions that appeal to me, and instead of complaining about it on the internet, or getting weirdly emotional, I'll just choose to visit the parks that fit my personal preferences better, and wish Universal all the best with their future expansions.

 

I'm just hoping that Nintendo is the project that brings me back!

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Now that KT has taken her only rides on Dragon Challenge (RIP), what do the parents think of the park removing a height requirement of 54" to one that is likely to be in the 42-48" range?

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Went on them a couple weeks ago. As a person who doesn't really like inverted coasters, I don't mind them going, but I am concerned about the replacement.

 

If Universal ends up making an "all-screens" roller coaster like Gringotts, I will be upset! I hope they make something like Revenge of the Mummy, where the car continues to move (and doesn't stop at every set) and has a thrilling piece to it.

 

Universal has changed. That's fine-- and IMO, it's mostly for the better. But why Universal continues to keep The Lost Continent open shocks me. 2 meh at-best shows with a HUGE piece of land would be a prime place to expand Harry Potter. While I personally don't really care for the ride (I really like New Hulk), I think it's an odd move for Universal.

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Now that KT has taken her only rides on Dragon Challenge (RIP), what do the parents think of the park removing a height requirement of 54" to one that is likely to be in the 42-48" range?

 

I'm all for 42" - 48" thrill rides, but in my constant yelling at parks to make sure areas within a park have something for everyone, Potter Hell already has a 36" ride, a 48" ride, a few shows, a zero height restriction train ride, and this big 54" ride so honestly I was okay with that.

 

Like others have said if this is some big, bad Dynamic Attractions / Intamin roller coaster...GREAT! But if I'm staring at a screen and wearing 3D googles and getting sprayed by water...well...

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Now that KT has taken her only rides on Dragon Challenge (RIP), what do the parents think of the park removing a height requirement of 54" to one that is likely to be in the 42-48" range?

 

I'm all for 42" - 48" thrill rides, but in my constant yelling at parks to make sure areas within a park have something for everyone, Potter Hell already has a 36" ride, a 48" ride, a few shows, a zero height restriction train ride, and this big 54" ride so honestly I was okay with that.

 

Like others have said if this is some big, bad Dynamic Attractions / Intamin roller coaster...GREAT! But if I'm staring at a screen and wearing 3D googles and getting sprayed by water...well...

We always stress that parks need to have a balance of height restrictions for their attractions. I'm never a fan of a park taking out a 42" or 48" height restriction ride and replacing it with a 52" or 54" which happens far too often. But a good "balance" does have something for everyone, including older, taller kids. As Elissa already pointed out, but I'll even elaborate on it more, the Potter lands currently have:

 

0" - Train ride

36" - Flying Unicorn

42" - Gringott's

48" - Forbidden Journey

54" - Dueling Dragons

 

That right there is actually a "good balance" for the park. And while I would always welcome another attraction geared to lower height restrictions they didn't *need* to remove the 54" attraction to improve the balance.

 

I would have been all for a Hulk-like refurb of Dragons that includes the new trains used on Banshee to bring that height restriction down to 52". I think what it comes down to for me is that Dragon's IMO is not a bad ride or a "ride at the end of it's life" so when you see a ride like that being removed, it's just strange to me. But it's not as though Universal hasn't done this already with Jaws. That was another well-liked, still fairly popular ride in the park when it was removed.

 

Fun Fact! "Jaws" is actually our #1 YouTube video on TPR with nearly 70 million views! Another Fun Fact! Four of our all-time top thirty videos on our YouTube channel are Jaws ride videos!

 

Hmmm....

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Went on them a couple weeks ago. As a person who doesn't really like inverted coasters, I don't mind them going

 

Universal has changed. That's fine-- and IMO, it's mostly for the better.

See, and this post right here is exactly why I cannot fault Universal for doing what they are doing. While I personally disagree with the points above, I get that the Universal park I used to frequent on our 1999 - 2010 visits to Orlando equally (if not sometimes more) than Disney has changed, and unfortunately changed into something that doesn't appeal to me as much. But I get that it appeals to other people and Universal has been successful with that, and I'm "OK" with that. It just means I'll be spending less time there and spending more time at other parks until they start to build more attractions that appeal to me.

 

As I said, hoping Nintendo is the project that brings me back.

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I much prefer USJ's style. Here's Harry Potter land while we still keep Jaws. Now we've got a great area bringing in new crowds with low height restrictions, let's go to another franchise and put in a great B&M now for the older visitors then back to family again with yet another popular franchise (I'm not a fan of Minions and my avatar would suggest I should be upset but I'm not, it's a smart move on USJ's part and honestly how many visitors were really showing up for BttF) and now they're moving onto Nintendo Land before they potentially return to a Harry Potter expansion.

 

I just find it better and more balanced than USO's throwing everything at all being family screen rides with medium heights or everything Harry Potter.

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