coasterfan200692 Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 What I need is something that will turn the train upside down and keep the heart line perfect from the top and side. If anyone can make one or has a roller coaster that has one it i would like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfie Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 Have you tried using the track smoother on it? (Availible from the toolbox at nolimitsdevcenter.net) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benzo41190 Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 do you still, have a file without supports? I would have waited to add supports until you were 100% sure your happy with the track. Because now your either going to have messed up supports, or you have to redo all of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterfan200692 Posted April 11, 2007 Author Share Posted April 11, 2007 I can handle redoing supports, but no, I have not used the track smoother, Ill check that out. Also, those downloads from Gravmatic Studios (or something like that) are not available anymore, they look useful and i want them, is there anywhere else i can get them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterfan200692 Posted April 15, 2007 Author Share Posted April 15, 2007 Not that I'm trying to justify or defend pumping, but if it's such a big Sin in NL, then why do the NL samples have a BUTT LOAD of it? Ride the back car of thriller or lochness monster and you'll see what I'm talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmare500 Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 Not that I'm trying to justify or defend pumping, but if it's such a big Sin in NL, then why do the NL samples have a BUTT LOAD of it? Ride the back car of thriller or lochness monster and you'll see what I'm talking about. Most of those tracks are extremely old. The standards of tracks has been raised, and people now expect coasters to look and feel like real, life coasters. Just download old tracks, that had high marks. The building technique is horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 Well for one thing, you aren't using nearly enough segments. You should always try to have control of the shape and such, rather than letting the track shape itself (for lack of better wording). Try and use a segment every 45*. Also, try building your track around perfect circles and straights (the cheese.3ds object that comes with NL is good for the circles, straights just try using supports). This well help weed out awkward lateral shifts and inconsistent radii from poor shaping. Remember to use leads, don't "just" turn. Lastly, probably the most "surprising" feature of the editor is the ride on 3D view with show heartline enabled. This is a pretty easy way to see all the jerks in your track, just by rolling over them, and makes it easy to go back and edit while on the track (giving you an eyeball view of a smooth fluid turn). It's also helpful when making offgrid straight track, as you can keep it straight just by making sure the heartline stays straight. Just to clarify, your "looks smooth in all dimensions" is kind of false. As soon as I opened the editor, I could tell none of the turns were circular. And a heads up, your station, lift, MCBR, and final brakes are not straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry_Gumball Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 What version are you using may I ask? If you're using 1.6, there is a built-in smoother by hitting CTRL-G...which I tried on your track and did a huge improvement, but didn't fully eliminate the pumps as you had your nodes too spaced apart. Don't rush at the track, keep the nodes closer and you'll have better control when it comes to depumping it without causing a kink in another area down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterfan200692 Posted April 15, 2007 Author Share Posted April 15, 2007 I'm in the process of getting 1.6 but I'm stuck with the last one right now so I don't have the smoother. But thank you for your help. But one thing II would like people to know is that I did not rush the building of any of my tracks, they just aren't built very well because I don't know how to make them really good. But what you said helps, and Ill keep that in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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