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Hey guys, I have a question for the die-hard Holiday Park enthusiasts out there. I'm sure this has been answered before somewhere and tried doing some searches to no avail.

 

Why exactly does Expedition GeForce run with the second-generation Intamin front zero car and front car, then the rest of the train with first-gen Intamin train cars?

 

Interesting. I've never been to Holiday Park, but I believe the coaster is like that because it was built in 2001. It was built after the first-generation hypers at SFNE, SFA, and DL (1999-2000), but before the second-generation ones like Goliath and Thunder Dolphin (2002-2003).

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We'll be at the park on Friday! If anyone else will be there, give us a hint. If not, prepare for some autumn shots of GeForce!

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I think it depends from a coaster to coaster basis. Superman at SFNE previously ran with a first-gen lead car too, but it was upgraded when they got new trains. Ride of Steel at Darien Lake got a new train this year, and it is completely modeled like the first generation style. Of course both EGF and Superman have much larger and more twisted layouts, which may contribute to the decision.

 

Although Ride of Steel's train is designed like a first generation model, all of the electronic and mechanical components have been upgraded.

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^...but, if you look on rcdb, there are photos with it previously running a full first-gen train (with the first-gen lead car), then at some point later, they switched out just that lead car.

 

Nice catch; I didn't notice that.

 

Like coasterkid124 said, it's probably a coaster to coaster basis. I always assumed EGF had the newer model trains (Goliath, Thunder Dolphin), but I love finding quirky things like this about coasters. Interesting stuff.

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Superman/Bizarro/Superman again at SFNE ran a full first-gen train until they got the second-gen trains for the Bizarro transformation, which they kept and just lightly modified for the return of Superman this year.

 

To the best of my knowledge and what I can find from searching and looking through photos online, EGF is the only case of the mixed train. Having rode both EGF about two months ago, then Superman a few days ago, I can definitely say that Superman's train feels uniquely "light" while riding and kind of seems to jog and bump up a bit going over the larger hills. EGF does not feel this way. I rode EGF in front row a couple of times and did not get a similar sensation. But at the same time, maybe EGF's heavier first-gen train pushing the lead car prevents this sensation from taking place.

 

Maybe the fact that the second-gen lead car also includes a very small "zero car" on the front (that shares a wheel assembly with the 1 car) that can flex a bit improves the tracking on a more twisted layout like EGF, or maybe helps with maintenance/wear and tear a bit? Purely speculating, also purely speculating about the second-gen being lighter, but thats the way they seem to feel with the way they track.

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Maybe the fact that the second-gen lead car also includes a very small "zero car" on the front (that shares a wheel assembly with the 1 car) that can flex a bit improves the tracking on a more twisted layout like EGF, or maybe helps with maintenance/wear and tear a bit?

Bingo.

 

The original front cars were no good for the twisty track. They actually got damaged.

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Finally got to go to Holiday Park a couple of days ago and must say that Expedition GeForce is hands down the best coaster I've ridden in Europe by a long way. What a brilliant ride!

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From the Holiday Park's Facebook page:

 

Next year the Holly's Wilde Autofahrt roller coaster will disappear from Holiday Park. In replacement the park will open a big new attraction in 2018. Next to the Light House Tower, there will open a new beach area (Holiday Beach Club) with three new attractions: a jet-type, boat carousel and playground.

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The new area's pre-rendering looks like it'll greatly improve the look of that area. The wild mouse coaster being a non-permanent model didn't match up with the theming of the rest of the park, which is otherwise heavily done.

 

Not sad to see it go, though I was glad that the wild mouse coaster was there for me, to serve as credit #249 and subsequently, dorkily make EGF #250.

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LOL how that piece of the old corkscrew coaster "sticks out" in the last photo.

 

And I love the set up all around the Star Flyer.

It all looks like it was naturally meant to be like that.

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I will be visiting this park in a few weeks and wanted to know which rides I should head to first in the park. I will be arriving at 12 and will have 6 hours till park close. Any tips?

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I can't say anything about the queue times as on my visit it was very quiet (only the log flume and Anubis drop tower had lines) and Sky Scream was closed. But what I can recommend is to ride Ex-G as much as you can (because let's face it, that's the reason you want to go there)! Ride it at least both in the front and in the back because it's very different (but excellent). Also don't miss the water ski show or Burg Falkenstein! They are definitely worth checking out.

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I will be visiting this park in a few weeks and wanted to know which rides I should head to first in the park. I will be arriving at 12 and will have 6 hours till park close. Any tips?

 

EGF, EGF, EGF, EGF. Seriously, get a couple of rides on it right away. It could build up a queue later, or be quite temperamental. In both of my visits it built up a line, but Sky Scream was always a near walk-on. Otherwise you should be able to do anything else at the park without issue. Star flyer and the new Gerstlauer Sky flip thing can get longer lines as far as flats go. And the drop tower has great views of EGF if you face that way.

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Hmmmm. So from the advice given, I think I should first hit up the parks new water ride, then the haunted castle thing, then definatly get a few rides on the log flume, not forgetting the star flyer, and if I have time at the end of all that to go on Sky Scream. But Ex-G Will be a miss, as everyone seems to think it is awful. Sounds good Nah, I will be tearing up my thighs on Ex-G most of the afternoon!

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I was checking the queue times of some parks here in Europe (what else do you do when you're not at a theme park?), and I was shocked when I saw the queues for Holiday Park. Seriously, I have never seen this park that busy.

 

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^ That is not too bad really. It is very hot at the moment, and for a world class rollercoaster, 65 minutes is not that long. Sky Fly has a very low capacity of 12 riders, and the water rides would be busy too, as it is hot. Also, ExG is very slow to load, and I would guess they are running one train. Factor that in, and it is not too bad, considering what the park has now as a lineup.

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