PhantomNick Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Just want to say that I'm very impressed with how my Pens have hung in there and scratched out points with Sid and Malkin both out. Some kudos to Bylsma for sure for not letting the team go in the tank when those 2 went down. I obviously don't expect them to truly contend for the Cup if Sid can't come back, and frankly I'd rather he sit out (even the playoffs) if he's not 100%. We need him healthy for many years to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatle11 Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 The Chara/Pacioretty incident has opened a huge can of worms... Habs owner Geoff Molson's message to fans Montreal Canadiens owner Geoff Molson delivered a message to the fans in a statement released by the club on Thursday, saying the organization does not agree with the decision the league made on Zdeno Chara's actions against Max Pacioretty. Dear Fans, I would like to thank you all for your comments and support as the Pacioretty family, and our entire organization, deal with this difficult situation. I share your frustration, disappointment and shock. I feel for Max, the team and you, our fans. Max, on behalf of my family, fans and all who are associated with this great organization, rest assured that we are all behind you and hope for a full recovery. The Montreal Canadiens is an institution that has played a leadership role in this League and in our community for over 100 years, and you can count on us to continue to do so in the future. The news of the NHL decision yesterday was a hard blow for both the players and fans of the Montreal Canadiens. It was one which shook the faith that we, as a community, have in this sport that we hold in such high regard. The Montreal Canadiens organization does not agree with the decision taken yesterday by the National Hockey League. We can assure you that we have made our position clear to Commissioner Gary Bettman, and that he has agreed to make this issue a priority at the next General Manager's meeting, which will be held in Florida on March 14-16. Pierre Gauthier, our General Manager, will be present at this meeting and has already expressed his wish to carry out, clearly, our message to his 29 counterparts and to the League. Our organization believes that the players' safety in hockey has become a major concern, and that this situation has reached a point of urgency. At risk are some of the greatest professional athletes in the world, our fan base and the health of our sport at all levels. Players' safety in hockey must become the ultimate priority and the situation must be addressed immediately. As a proud father of three hockey players, I want to help create a healthy and safe experience for them, and I certainly never want any family to go through what the Pacioretty's are experiencing at this moment. We understand and appreciate hockey being a physical sport, but we do not accept any violent behavior that will put the players' health and safety at risk. On this specific issue, I am asking for the support of the 29 other NHL owners, to address urgently this safety issue. And I am willing to play a leadership role in coordinating this group effort. You are the best fans in the league, and I am proud to have you behind us. Both the team and Max need your support now more than ever. A solid playoff run is just around the corner and we are counting on you to carry us deep into the spring! GO HABS GO! Geoff Molson Chairman of the Board of Directors and Team Owner I'm glad I'm not the one who has to deal with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeemerBoy Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 We understand and appreciate hockey being a physical sport, but we do not accept any violent behavior that will put the players' health and safety at risk. Really? The Montreal Canadiens is an institution that has played a leadership role in this League and in our community for over 100 years Hmmm, over 100 years huh? Well, in that case you should probably have had plenty of time to realize hockey's violent. Period. Unless you, Satan (Bettman), and the rest of the pansy owners wanna bubble wrap your players, you'll just have to deal with the fact that freak accidents will continue to occur every now and then, regardless of how you "try" to improve players' safety. Bottom line: You want examples of unacceptable violence? Google McSorley or Bertuzzi.....not Chara. Sheesh, I f***ing hate Montreal. Quit overreacting like little bitches. It doesn't help the game any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Thrill Dragster Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 I'm surprised that Montreal isn't in a riot because of this incident. Because if there is one thing those French Canadians know how to do is a good old fashion riot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemical_echo Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Air Canada is threatening to back out of their sponsorship of the NHL if they don't make some changes in regards to the safety of the players. Personally, I think they're just looking for a fay to further their name from the Leafs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnage Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 ^ It's all politics with Air Canada. If they want to walk away from millions in dollars in sponsorship and business, other companies will step up to take their place. The Westjet Centre has a decent sound to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatle11 Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Clearly most everyone thinks something needs to change. Why can't Bettman get his head out of his ass and do something about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClareJ Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Let's Go Devils!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djbrcace1234 Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Oh my, what a game for the Kings there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imawesome1124 Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 That Caps game had some of the most bull$h1t officiating I have ever seen. I know we won but still they were getting away with just about everything in that game. Our guys were getting held and hooked and tripped and interfered with and getting taken down left and right and they never got called. Ovechkin had a breakaway and he got taken down once, got up and got taken down again, NO CALL! WTF refs? Not to mention that F***ing Bull$h1t hooking penalty they called on us in the last 2 minutes when Chicago pulled their goalie. All Johansson did was *tap* him with his stick, it was a F***ing TAP! Every other time that is NOT a penalty, but they just couldn't let the Caps beat the Stanley Cup champions. Then of course when we are two men down with the BS penalty and Chicago pulling their goalie they score forcing OT. But we still won even with the BS officiating by the refs. Just to prove how BS and corrupted the officiating is, last year when Ovie *bumped* Campbell when he was already going down and hit his head on the boards, the league said that he was wreckless and needs to know where he is on the ice the whole time and used those as reasons why he should be suspended. When Chara hit Pacioretty they said the EXACT same thing they said for Ovie and used those as reasons why he should NOT be suspended. How in any way is that consistent? It makes no f***ing sense why they would use reasons why Ovechkin should be suspended as reasons why Chara SHOULD NOT be suspended. The league needs to stop being so inconsistent and biased with the officiating. Okay I'm done with my rant, back to the positives. The Caps fought hard through the bad officiating and still managed to get the W. Let's Go Caps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnage Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Just to prove how BS and corrupted the officiating is, last year when Ovie *bumped* Campbell when he was already going down and hit his head on the boards, the league said that he was wreckless and needs to know where he is on the ice the whole time and used those as reasons why he should be suspended. When Chara hit Pacioretty they said the EXACT same thing they said for Ovie and used those as reasons why he should NOT be suspended. Can't really compare the two. Ovechkin's hit was a hit from behind. Chara's hit was from the side. It was just bad timing. It's too easy to blame the refs for every call that goes against your team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Thrill Dragster Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 What a finish to the Kings Stars game. I went from Xtreme anger when langenbrunner scored, to screaming and jumping around my house in joy when Handzus scored 20 seconds later to win the game. Awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jew Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Ovi's hit was CLEARLY boarding. Chara's hit probably deserved a suspension...it was an illegal hit (interference) that ended badly, which should be treated the same as a boarding suspension would be. That being said, I don't think the intent was malicious. That's just what happens when you are 6'9" and go in for a check with only 1 second to react after the puck left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imawesome1124 Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Ovi's hit was CLEARLY boarding. Chara's hit probably deserved a suspension...it was an illegal hit (interference) that ended badly, which should be treated the same as a boarding suspension would be. That being said, I don't think the intent was malicious. That's just what happens when you are 6'9" and go in for a check with only 1 second to react after the puck left. Would everyone STOP calling Ovi a dirty player? He is NOT dirty, the other players just embellish and the league blows everything WAY out of proportion. That supposedly "knee on knee" hit with Gleason which got suspended was NOT intended to be a dirty hit. He was going for the shoulder check and Gleason turned out of the way and they accidently colided at the knee. Against the Sabres he got thrown out of the game for boarding, when he hit the person from the side and he TURNED to hit his head on the boards. Then he acted like he had a hurt nose when he had a visor. Ovechkin is BORDERLINE dirty at the worst. Ovi would NEVER do ANYTHING to even remotely hurt a player intentionally. And that hit on Campbell was a BUMP. He fell down awkward and went to the boards. It was ACCIDENTAL! Considering how strong Ovi is, if he wanted to hurt someone he would put them in the hospital. Chara is just as dirty as everyone else and so is Ovi, and Matt Cooke is 50x more dirty than either of them. Like I said, Ovi is not dirty and would never intentionally hurt someone. In fact he gets called so much for this bull$h1t he has backed off of hitting. He lays off contact because if he hits too hard, even if it is clean, he will get called because the league hates him and tries to make him look like a dirty player. If you all would open your f***ing eyes and look at the facts you would see that Ovi is not a dirty player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnage Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Then he acted like he had a hurt nose when he had a visor. I guess you've never seen what happens when you take a blow the visor, which can push the visor into the players face? A player doesn't have to be a dirty player to make a bad decision, resulting in a penalty or a suspension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jew Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 I never said he was dirty. Stuff happens. Hockey is a physical game and unavoidable illegal hits are going to happen. I was just pointing out that shoving a player from behind that close to the boards is definitely going to get a boarding penalty called. The initial contact was definitely unintentional contact...fully extending his arms to shove Campbell out of the way after bumping into him wasn't though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomfan93 Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 5-1 GO PENS!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Thrill Dragster Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Ovi is a dirty player. Period. The knee on knee on Gonchar in the 09 playoffs was intentional and downright nasty. The NHL hates Ovi? Really? Ovi and Crosby are the two sweethearts of the NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeemerBoy Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 "I sincerely appreciate all of the support that I have received since my injury. I was disappointed that the NHL did not suspend Zdeno Chara. However, I have no desire for him to be prosecuted legally. I feel that the incident, as ugly as it was, was part of a hockey game." - Max Pacioretty In related news, I hear the Canadiens are calling for league-wide changes in MLB too following the news that the Braves minor league skipper has officially lost his eye after taking a fluke line drive foul ball to the head. Maybe a criminal investigation into Brian McCann as well, right? Have I mentioned I effing hate Montreal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imawesome1124 Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Ovi is a dirty player. Period. The knee on knee on Gonchar in the 09 playoffs was intentional and downright nasty. The NHL hates Ovi? Really? Ovi and Crosby are the two sweethearts of the NHL. OVI IS NOT A DIRTY PLAYER!!!!!!!!! Anyone who thinks he is dirty is an idiot and knows nothing about what dirty really is! And yes the league hates Ovi, just like they hate the whole Caps organization. And Ovi doesn't repeatedly cross check people like Crosby does. He doesn't punch people in the crotch like Crosby does. He doesn't try to hurt people like Matt Cooke does. I laughed at the end of that Penguins/Red Wings game when Crosby was cross checking a Red Wings player in front of their net and Howard started punching him after the whistle blew. And Ovi will do something like barely nudge someone and he gets a penalty, where as Crosby can cross check someone down to the ice and not get called. I've seen it. And don't think for one second that you haven't. Either way, I suggest we both drop the subject before we start an all out flame war and get banned. Ovi is no dirtier than Crosby. Edit: For the record, if ANY player on our team is dirty, it is Erskine, and he is not even remotely as dirty as Cooke is. When have you ever seen Ovi INTENTIONALLY stick his leg out and hit someone knee on knee. The only time that happens is when they see Ovi coming in for the shoulder check and turn out of the way and leave their knee behind. Ovi is wreckless, but not dirty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeemerBoy Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 OVI's dirty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djbrcace1234 Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 (edited) ^ Yes. And seriously, what's wrong with that? Every team needs grit, because it's one of those items that just helps control the ice for your team. Edited March 16, 2011 by djbrcace1234 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imawesome1124 Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Like I said he is wreckless, and BORDERLINE dirty. I will admit, he crosses the line at points, but if you want dirty, go look at Matt Cooke and compare that to Ovi. This is dirty, I hate Cooke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdub96 Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Just cause his hit on Savard was dirty doesnt mean he as a player is. He's an agitator, an enforcer, that's what he's paid to do. THAT was over the top, but Cooke isn't a dirty guy. And Ovechkin is dirty. Knee blow to Gonchar? Dirty. A lot of his hits are dirty they just aren't labled as such 'cause no one got hurt. But actually watch him hit people, he's dirty. He slahses guys behind the play, I've seen it all multiple times from him. And he is not the sweetheart of the NHL, just the TV analysts love him. Crosby is the poster boy and rightfully so. He's the 'next one,' unbelievably talented and plays the game the right way. He also knows the right thing to say and has never had an incident like Ovechkin in which he's been criticized for. He's the better player too. Go Pens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeemerBoy Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 And seriously, what's wrong with that? Every team needs grit, because it's one of those items that just helps control the ice for your team. Nothing, as long as "grit" and "dirty play" don't get confused. I completely agree that every team needs grit. Some of my favorite players ever were the tough, "gritty" type who still had some skill....Cam Neely, Tie Domi, Bob Probert, Ted Lindsay, Dino Ciccarelli, Wendell Clark, Stu Grimson, Terry O'Reilly, etc. (okay, admittedly the last two couldn't even score with a hooker, but still). Then there's dirty/disguisingly dirty players like Ovi, Lindros, Dale Hunter, Ulf Samuelson, Claude Lemieux, Bobby Clarke, Wayne Cashman, and even Billy Smith. Bottom line, grit, toughness, and braun are a necessity for any team's "enforcer." I just don't like cheap shots. Scott "just realized that many of you probably never saw some of those guys play" B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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