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P. 118: Guardians Cosmic Rewind opening May 27th!

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I also think it will be Ratatouille, because there is already a Beauty and the Beast area in Magic Kingdom. Yes, they can put a ride in EPCOT, but why? It would make more sense over there, and there is still room for expansion.

Well, one could argue there is also a Toy Story ride in Magic Kingdom and one at Hollywood Studios (with more on the way.) Not saying I prefer one over the other, but Ratatouille just turned ten years old a few days ago, and it doesn't seem like it's a property that stands out to most guests the way Beauty & The Beast does. Either way, the more Disney characters in Epcot the better!

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I also think it will be Ratatouille, because there is already a Beauty and the Beast area in Magic Kingdom. Yes, they can put a ride in EPCOT, but why? It would make more sense over there, and there is still room for expansion.

Well, one could argue there is also a Toy Story ride in Magic Kingdom and one at Hollywood Studios (with more on the way.) Not saying I prefer one over the other, but Ratatouille just turned ten years old a few days ago, and it doesn't seem like it's a property that stands out to most guests the way Beauty & The Beast does. Either way, the more Disney characters in Epcot the better!

 

Even in Paris, when the movie and ride was newer and you think would be a bigger thing because of the movies setting, I never heard much buzz or overly great reviews of the ride. Most people thought it was OK/good but most people I know who went talked more about going to the restaurant for Ratatouille than the ride.

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It's a good ride but it's much more family orientated than say Transformers or Spiderman, when we rode it my son was 6 months old and he rode and enjoyed it, there is nothing like that in DL so it makes a nice addition. My kids loved it and personally along with TOT I thought it was the best ride in the Studios park........but that's not saying a lot!

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It's a good ride but it's much more family orientated than say Transformers or Spiderman

That's even better, I feel like EPCOT is already a tiny bit too adult and this can balance it out. Not to mention it will be a food themed ride at one of the best places in the world to get food from.

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You can read Adam's D23 Report here, but I'll post a quick re-cap of the Walt Disney World announcements with some of the released images...

 

- Mickey & Minnie's Runaway Railway (Replacing Great Movie Ride)

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- Ratatouille is coming to the France pavilion at Epcot

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- A new, seamless Circlevision film is coming to the Epcot China Pavilion

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- Guardians of the Galaxy is coming to Epcot

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- Tron Lightcycle Power Run is coming to the Magic Kingdom

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- Mission: Space will open with a new Green Mission film for families and a reanimated Orange Mission

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- New table service restaurant at Mission: Space

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- The Disney Skyliner gondola system will debut at Walt Disney World resorts

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- A new theater attraction will open on Main Street USA at the Magic Kingdom

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- The "Minnie Van" uber-like driving service has been announced WDW Resort

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- Hotel Riviera Disney Vacation Club Resort

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- Star Wars-Inspired Themed Resort at Walt Disney World planned

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- Star Wars Land officially named "Star Wars Galaxy's Edge"

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- Epcot Future World will get a make-over

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Again. you can read Adam's D23 Report here!

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People will lament the loss of "classics" and edutainment being a thing...but what the audience wants changes too. Universe of Energy was a giant waste of space in its current form, and with how large the building is I am excited to see what they do with it. And that's coming from someone who hasn't seen either Guardians of the Galaxy movie.

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Those who love Epcot classics need to know that they will never ever come back. But good thing is, GotG can have a crap ton of cameos that nod to Horizons, Universe of Energy, Wonders of Life, etc while the GotG IP impresses new generation guests and sells merch to make use of the space much better than the outdated current ride. I'm just thinking like this because a rumor is saying it will have a background of or be themed to Peter visiting EPCOT as a kid.

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I think the makeover of Future World will help bring events like Food & Wine and Flower & Garden into those areas, and since those events now are in the park nearly half of the year and getting more and more crowded every year, I think that would be a great way to expand them.

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the promo art for Future World is gorgeous.

 

I'm wary about going back to Magic Kingdom complex in Orlando since all the high-tech upgrades (we're not techies at all. . and last time we were there it was still paper fast passes. . . pre magic bands).

 

but yeah, we're absolutely going to be going back by 2020 to check out all the changes.

 

2020 is my target plan now

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I'm wary about going back to Magic Kingdom complex in Orlando since all the high-tech upgrades (we're not techies at all. . and last time we were there it was still paper fast passes. . . pre magic bands).

It's easy. Everything is done on your smartphone and the options just keep getting better and easier to manage!

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I think the makeover of Future World will help bring events like Food & Wine and Flower & Garden into those areas, and since those events now are in the park nearly half of the year and getting more and more crowded every year, I think that would be a great way to expand them.

 

The future additions look great!

 

I would fully approve of Food & Wine and Flower & Garden expanding into those areas - that would be awesome!

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the promo art for Future World is gorgeous.

 

I'm wary about going back to Magic Kingdom complex in Orlando since all the high-tech upgrades (we're not techies at all. . and last time we were there it was still paper fast passes. . . pre magic bands).

 

but yeah, we're absolutely going to be going back by 2020 to check out all the changes.

 

2020 is my target plan now

 

Judging by all the planning and building going on, AND that it'll be WDW's 50th Anniversary in 2021...why not plan for 2022?

We are! And 2022 will be our 50th Anny, so that's our possible plan for now, for that year. And during EPCOT's

F&W Fest, too. But... we're also considering Paris and Amsterdam for 2022, as that's where we went for our 30th Anny.

And then we'd do WDW in 2023, which isn't too bad in planning ahead.

 

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Please tell me I wasn't the only one who hopped out of his seat when they announced that Ratatoutille was coming to the France pavilion in Epcot!

 

Also I get there are mixed reactions to Guardians being in Future World, but honestly anything that isn't the Ellen's Energy Adventure ride is great in my book!

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^ It's a great ride over in Paris. And I wish people would stop judging it, compared to Mystic Manor in HKDL, Pooh in TDL, etc. Every trackless ride that Disney creates is ultimately different (to a point) than the others. Ratatouille happens to involve screens and set pieces. And it's a great ride, IMhO. Good for EPCOT to get a version of it, for France.

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^ While you're not wrong, it's still sad to see what Disney is capable of with the tech and then not use it to the fullest extent. Personally I've never been on Ratty in Paris (mostly because I have no want to ever return to that hell) and I feel like anything in the World Showcase is an improvement. They could install a Wacky Worm and I'd be happy. I love Epcot but the Showcase for YEARS had next to no pull for children outside of their parents dragging them along. With Frozen and now this things will finally change.

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^ Totally agree with the "they could do more" for a ride like this. But, with all the $$$$$ being poured into all these upgrades, rebuilds, new stuff, etc., I figured they might add a copy of something that's in another Disney park, to save a bit of $. In this case, it's Ratatouille.*

 

 

*And you'll get to ride it, without having to go to your "Hell" of DLP, heh.

 

EDIT to add: Actually, I am hoping that they maybe throw in some kind of "surprise scene" in Ratatouille, that isn't in the Paris version. Who knows?

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^ It's a great ride over in Paris. And I wish people would stop judging it, compared to Mystic Manor in HKDL, Pooh in TDL, etc. Every trackless ride that Disney creates is ultimately different (to a point) than the others. Ratatouille happens to involve screens and set pieces. And it's a great ride, IMhO. Good for EPCOT to get a version of it, for France.

Considering the rumor of the Battle Escape Attraction & the Mickey ride are both using simlar trackless technology, I think Ratatouille will be great coming as it is. I'm sure the other two rides will be using more physical sets, so having a screen-based variation of the trackless ride will add variety. I don't think World Showcase needs a Mystic Manor or Pooh right now, just some nice rides to fill in the the long void of attractions in WS. Future World has the attractions but they are stale, I'd rather the budget be mostly used in this area to "wow" up this area. Budget exists, and this ride will perfectly complement the area without putting a dent in the budget. I'm sure the Mickey ride & Battle Escape Attraction will be more appropriate to spend Mystic Manor money, as expectations will be more grand with both rides being the headliners of their own lands.

 

If they are to be using IPs for the Future World redo, which I'm sure they are, I think it has great potential. A very basic retheme of the Seas building to the Marine Institue from Finding Dory and adding a gorgeous Stark Expo pavilion while just reusing the Star Tours vehicles once the land opens, would be wonderful, budget-concious & relevant additions I'd welcome. I think stark would look great where Wonders is, as with the new Guardians ride it will the unofficial Marvel corner of the park. I'm just excited Epcot is getting some love period!

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I'm interested to find out more details what type of ride Guardians will be, but I'm definitely in favor of that replacing Ellen's Energy Adventure. I tried it for the first time a few years back and while it was ok, I wouldn't rush back to do it again because of the amount of time it takes up and how there are better rides.

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...Considering the rumor of the Battle Escape Attraction & the Mickey ride are both using similar trackless technology...

 

Just to comment on this. I didn't realize that the M&M's Runaway Railway could be trackless. I was under the impression, by the description of the attraction, that you "walk into the screen," and "board Goofy's train"...that it's some kind of indoor coaster attraction.

 

Just me, trying to figure it all out,

 

EDIT: I just found the Caption under the art concept...

 

Guests will step into the screen of a Mickey Mouse short and get on the train piloted by Goofy in this attraction...

 

"The train" could be individual ride vehicles, I suppose. But this attraction is surely to be a mass mover of some kind, yes? No?

Like the "audience cars" were in the The Great Movie Ride? And note, the Marquee for this attraction will become the new "Sorcerer's

Apprentice Hat" Icon at the end of that Main Street.

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^ It's a great ride over in Paris. And I wish people would stop judging it, compared to Mystic Manor in HKDL, Pooh in TDL, etc. Every trackless ride that Disney creates is ultimately different (to a point) than the others. Ratatouille happens to involve screens and set pieces. And it's a great ride, IMhO. Good for EPCOT to get a version of it, for France.

Yeah, I have to be honest, I thought it was a "good" ride, but not "great." I'd give it a solid B. The thing is, once you've been on Mystic Manor, Pooh, or even Aquatopia it's hard not to compare it, because you see other (read: better) examples of what that ride technology can do. And while I appreciate what the ride is, and I enjoyed it ever time I rode it, there is part of me that can't help but to think the same thing as I do when I ride the SeaWorld Antartica ride "Wait, you mean to tell me you spent all this money on a super expensive ride system only to put me in front of a giant movie screen???" To be honest, I shouldn't compare that ride to Antarctica because the Ratatouille ride is at least GOOD where the SeaWorld ride is not!

 

Here's a complete POV of the Paris ride:

 

It's pretty much exactly as it shows in the video. Not a bad ride by any means, but not Disney's crowning achievement either.

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^ How about, it's a great ride, but not the greatest trackless rides of Disney's?

 

(When I rode Ratatouille back in late 2015, I did do the Single Riders Queue, five times in a row!)

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I hope they add some special touches to the Orlando version of Ratatouille. Pooh is 17 years old now, they should be able to build something on par with it at this point.

 

But who really cares with Tron, Guardians, Battle Escape, Mickey Railway, Millennium Falcon, New Broadway style MK show, Gondolas all on the way. This announcement was BONKERS. And Nintendo Land will be opening at the same time, and hopefully Skyplex. And Great Wolf Lodge. And probably 3 other things. Orlando is on fire.

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^ I'm still going crazy in my head for what YEAR to really come to WDW and experience it all,

the best ways possible. And include Universal, and Orlando/Florida in general....

 

You are very lucky indeed, to be so close to it all.

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