ginzo Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 I thought Matterhorn was like one of the first steel coasters. Somebody help me (I'm not as much of a coaster history enthusiast, just enjoy riding.) Harry Traver's Jazz Railway came out in 1925. People thought he was crazy for building a coaster out of steel. http://www.rcdb.com/id2010.htm I'm not a huge coaster history person either, but I think the Matterhorn is kinda credited with starting the modern steel coaster craze, just like some people credit the Racer for kicking off the woodie renaissance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesdillaman Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 I thought Matterhorn was like one of the first steel coasters. Somebody help me (I'm not as much of a coaster history enthusiast, just enjoy riding.) Harry Traver's Jazz Railway came out in 1925. People thought he was crazy for building a coaster out of steel. http://www.rcdb.com/id2010.htm I'm not a huge coaster history person either, but I think the Matterhorn is kinda credited with starting the modern steel coaster craze, just like some people credit the Racer for kicking off the woodie renaissance. If that was a steel coaster, then rcdb is wrong, because it says wood under type. -James Dillaman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginzo Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 If that was a steel coaster, then rcdb is wrong, because it says wood under type. -James Dillaman It was def. steel track. http://www.ultimaterollercoaster.com/coasters/history/design/history_traver.shtml The other coaster at the exposition was the often historically overlooked Jazz Railway. Traver called it the Jazz Railway so he could leave all references to wooden coasters behind. You could tell by looking that coaster had many of the elements Traver loved to include. Roller coaster historian Richard Munch says that Traver counted among his favorite elements, "the spiral drop, deep dips and jump track." The ride was small [it occupied a space 70 X 165 feet] and considered to be the forerunner of the Wild Mouse coaster. Also, it was constructed of prefabricated steel, and Traver saw steel as the material which would become the main support material for roller coasters. Richard Munch covers this in his book about Traver. I'm not sure if it's the first steel coaster or not, but it does predate the Matterhorn by quite a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeezus Juice Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 Also, it was constructed of prefabricated steel, and Traver saw steel as the material which would become the main support material for roller coasters. I dunno, sounds like the steel could have been used for the supports only. I'm not saying your wrong, but this doesn't definitize it for me. Matterhorn 1 Traver's dead ass 0 Your serve -Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginzo Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 It's all in Richard Munch's book. I have nothing to prove to anyone, especially those too lazy to research it themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DATman Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 ^Wow. That wasn't stuck up in any way. He just want's to know if it's true or not. A book may or may not be a relieable source (I hope that is is, but you never know). There are other steel coasters before the matterhorn though. In the book, Roller Coasters, by Scott Rutherford, there is a photo of a steel coaster using tubular track. So that quashes all though of the matterhorn. But, it is still one of the earliest steel coasters that still exists today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Clinksalot Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 ^I hope it's gonna be open again in a month's time! Even my brother has the Matterhorn credit! It's scheduled to open on December 14th. This is a LONG rehab. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 ^I hope it's gonna be open again in a month's time! Even my brother has the Matterhorn credit! It's scheduled to open on December 14th. This is a LONG rehab. Sorry. Ahh well, such is life. I'd much rather they keep on top of the maintenance it needs and come back a ride it in a few years time. It'll be 50 in three years time, and that's not bad for an Arrow ride! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disneylanddork50 Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 Dude alot of the time when i got to disneyland matterhorn is ope. it is closed from now until december 18th i believe . but it will be open before christmas . but i understand your point . they should just put new track in and leave it for three years . anyways g2g ttyl CINDERELLA IS HOT ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy T. Koepp Posted September 28, 2006 Author Share Posted September 28, 2006 ^Hi, welcome to the site. Forgive me if I sound rude, but... ...Have you read the Terms of Service yet? If you haven't, you should, or your life span here will be very short. We all look forward to hearing more from you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjaco Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 And the enthusiast emerged like a phoenix from the ashes. A child was brought forth unto you a geek emerged, for all to see. And Walt's hands came down from heaven and placed themeth upon my trembling brow as I heard him orate, "Go fourth Guy and rid the world of the un-imagineative, and calous. Create weird and childish videos that make no sense whatsoever, but, are real F'ing cool. Especially ones that have puppets with big tits. Cause tits are awesome! Um... Uh... I mean challenge the creative mind and create your own ride experience where there is not." I cried as a baby does, when it is seperated from the breast that it suckles, as his hands slowly drifted away over Sleeping Beauty Castle. "Remember Guy. Rememberrrrrr..." So... ... I got that going for me. Holy crap Guy, I think I just peed my seat from laughing so hard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy T. Koepp Posted September 28, 2006 Author Share Posted September 28, 2006 And the enthusiast emerged like a phoenix from the ashes. A child was brought forth unto you a geek emerged, for all to see. And Walt's hands came down from heaven and placed themeth upon my trembling brow as I heard him orate, "Go fourth Guy and rid the world of the un-imagineative, and calous. Create weird and childish videos that make no sense whatsoever, but, are real F'ing cool. Especially ones that have puppets with big tits. Cause tits are awesome! Um... Uh... I mean challenge the creative mind and create your own ride experience where there is not." I cried as a baby does, when it is seperated from the breast that it suckles, as his hands slowly drifted away over Sleeping Beauty Castle. "Remember Guy. Rememberrrrrr..." So... ... I got that going for me. Holy crap Guy, I think I just peed my seat from laughing so hard! I do what I can. When in doubt, I choose Depends. They keep my winkie dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrowfanman Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 ^ Anyway, I was at the park Saturday, and we noticed a little brown spot on the mountain...using an optical and digital zoom, we were able to tell that it was, what I think was, a piece of track that has been cut! I didn't quite realise that the work was that heavy duty! Usually my attention to detail goes on overload at Disneyland, so I'm suprised I noticed this! -Jahan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 Looks like it could be a whole load of new track then! Now that would explain the lengthy downtime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtreme-me Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Shoot... im going on friday and i was really looking forward to riding that!!! arggg... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bush985 Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 From what I was told last time I was down there, a few weeks ago, they are installing all new track, along with a new ride control system. I didn't get too much of the details, but someone correct me if I'm wrong. -RD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coasterbp Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Dang. I'm gonna be there first week of December for my honeymoon. Was really looking forward to riding it. The Matterhorn, that is... -=brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedracer Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Looks like a pretty extensive rehab: http://www.srcphotography.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=9&pos=218 http://www.srcphotography.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=9&pos=220 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
summerof72 Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 would really like to see some more comfortable seats! its pretty hard on me, and i worry about my back when i ride this one.... (my chiropractor cringes every June when Disney time rolls around... : ( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willski Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 Dang. I'm gonna be there first week of December for my honeymoon. Was really looking forward to riding it. The Matterhorn, that is... -=brian Hahaha......I'm sure there will be plenty of other credits. After all, it IS your honeymoon. So....um....Matterhorn, yeah. I'd guess with the seemingly high lats in some areas of this coaster (and maybe in the bad transitions as well), they just replace certain areas of the track. That would be a huge waste of money to replace all of it when only a little needs to be fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cheat Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 Also, you can get free hats just by riding! (Ask anyone whose ever ridden it with me )-Matterhorny Don Yeah, that was pretty awesome. I looked backwards once we got to the brake run and all of a sudden you had a hat on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrowfanman Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 From Miceage...take what you want from it: The Matterhorn is in the middle of its three month refurbishment, and when it opens there won't be much noticeably different about the ride. This long closure was overdue as the 47-year-old ride needs constant TLC to keep it running. New safety and rider surveillance systems are being installed, along with the obligatory track work and tune ups on the endless moving parts inside the complex ride. It's going to be next winter's Matterhorn refurbishment that will be of interest to Disneyland fans, as the classic inline bobsled seating is planned to be replaced with individual seat compartments with a lap bar instead of a rather useless seatbelt. And no, they won't add Fastpass and they won't reroute the line away from the sides of the mountain anytime soon either. The new seating arrangement is being driven not so much by Disney, but rather by the California Department of Safety and Health inspectors who have been very critical of the fact that the seatbelts used on the Matterhorn are in no way monitored and offer no real ability to prevent someone from exiting their vehicle while on the ride. The response from Disney has been to start designing prototype bobsleds that will seat six people in individual compartments under lapbars (think Space Mountain in Orlando), instead of the current seating of eight people in four compartments with shared seatbelts. So get in your rides on the Matterhorn with your favorite date now, as the future Matterhorn bobsled cars will be far less cozy than they were for the first 48 years. -Jahan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy T. Koepp Posted November 1, 2006 Author Share Posted November 1, 2006 Aww! That is sucky news! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharkTums Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 Somewhere in Orange County...Jeff Johnson just cried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRiverizon Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 Crap...I still havn't been on Matterhorn while sitting with a hot chick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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