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For all we know, it's possible that the funeral for this gentleman is on Tuesday... If you want to think about terrible news headlines like "Cedar Point announces new Roller Coaster on the same day as its first fatal accidents guest is laid to rest" sounds pretty shitty....

 

 

The change is date of the announcement is not going to change the fact that there is a new ride for next season...

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I totally agree on that, this is all about showing respect to the victim's family. A very respectful and professional decision from Cedar Fair !!!

 

As much as I hate this entire situation and how much one persons stupidity has had such a huge effect on the park... I think what you said is 100% accurate. It was a very good, very professional decision from Cedar Fair to show respect to the family when it wasn't even the parks fault to begin with.

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^And you may in fact be right, but that just depresses me more! We live in a society where it's the parks fault that this idiot did something stupid and a place where someone sues a restaurant that specializes in throwing rolls for getting hit with a throwed roll.

 

Or the lady that sued McDonalds for not having a hot label on coffee cups. Then there's somebody who sued a fast food place for only getting one napkin with their meal. The list just goes on and on. If people just used some common sense and follow the rules, there wouldn't be so many restrictions and dollars wasted on safety warnings everywhere.

 

I swear if I see the whole McDonald Coffee Lawsuit mentioned as being frivolous I'm gonna flip a table.

 

These are the facts about this case...

  • Ms. Liebeck (the person who spilled the coffee) received 3rd-degree burns over 6% of her body mostly in inner thighs, butt and groin areas.
  • She was forced to spend $20,000 for medical treatment and spent 8 Days in the hospital.
  • McDonald's kept their coffee at well above a temperature that coffee would normally be served at.
  • There had been 700 reports of people suffering burns from their coffee over the past 10 years due to it's high temperature as well as numerous lawsuits and did nothing about the issue.

 

Additionally, Liebeck only ended up receiving less than $600,000 even though the jury initially awarded $2.7 million in damages.

 

 

 

The New York Times did a really nice report about the whole situation. Watch it Here -

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The postponement was definitely the right move, and I was only taken aback for a split second when I saw it announced. Everyone will quickly forget the exact timing anyway. I would only be irked if they do change anything about the ride, but I think that's jumping to conclusions and don't personally predict it (though I can be naive...).

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^And you may in fact be right, but that just depresses me more! We live in a society where it's the parks fault that this idiot did something stupid and a place where someone sues a restaurant that specializes in throwing rolls for getting hit with a throwed roll.

 

Or the lady that sued McDonalds for not having a hot label on coffee cups. Then there's somebody who sued a fast food place for only getting one napkin with their meal. The list just goes on and on. If people just used some common sense and follow the rules, there wouldn't be so many restrictions and dollars wasted on safety warnings everywhere.

 

I swear if I see the whole McDonald Coffee Lawsuit mentioned as being frivolous I'm gonna flip a table.

 

These are the facts about this case...

  • Ms. Liebeck (the person who spilled the coffee) received 3rd-degree burns over 6% of her body mostly in inner thighs, butt and groin areas.
  • She was forced to spend $20,000 for medical treatment and spent 8 Days in the hospital.
  • McDonald's kept their coffee at well above a temperature that coffee would normally be served at.
  • There had been 700 reports of people suffering burns from their coffee over the past 10 years due to it's high temperature as well as numerous lawsuits and did nothing about the issue.

 

Additionally, Liebeck only ended up receiving less than $600,000 even though the jury initially awarded $2.7 million in damages.

 

 

 

The New York Times did a really nice report about the whole situation. Watch it Here -

 

Thank you for this. Hearing people always use this case when talking about lawsuits without actually checking the facts makes me want to *almost* punch a baby.

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I swear if I see the whole McDonald Coffee Lawsuit mentioned as being frivolous I'm gonna flip a table.

 

These are the facts about this case...

  • Ms. Liebeck (the person who spilled the coffee) received 3rd-degree burns over 6% of her body mostly in inner thighs, butt and groin areas.
  • She was forced to spend $20,000 for medical treatment and spent 8 Days in the hospital.
  • McDonald's kept their coffee at well above a temperature that coffee would normally be served at.
  • There had been 700 reports of people suffering burns from their coffee over the past 10 years due to it's high temperature as well as numerous lawsuits and did nothing about the issue.

 

Additionally, Liebeck only ended up receiving less than $600,000 even though the jury initially awarded $2.7 million in damages.

 

I did watch the video, and I am still on the side of McDonalds for this one. No matter the exact temp of the coffee, when you purchase a hot drink you should be expected to know that it is hot. The woman is still at fault for spilling the coffee. Especially trying to open a lid to a flimsy cup on a slanted seat. The cups have spouts for a reason. Yes, I do feel bad for her, but I wish that I could have sued every time I burned myself on a hot surface for being too hot.

 

Trying to shift this back on topic, people should be held against for their own actions. Don't hop fences that say do not enter, and don't attempt to open a flimsy cup in your lap with a hot liquid inside.

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Wow, this thread has really taught me a lot about the idiocracy of humanity. I cannot believe we have people who felt Cedar Point was partially at fault for not having enough signage and I can't believe that people ACTUALLY BELIEVE that the woman who spilled hot coffee on herself isn't at fault.

 

Congrats on making this come true....

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Another thing I'm surprised at is that the guy didn't see or hear the train which runs on track that amplifies sound because it's hollow; in other words, that thing roars. Reports say he was hit in the back of the head (ouch) and I really cannot see how the train "sneaked up on him like that" so to speak. Either way, a smartphone isn't worth losing your life. Apparently he either thought he could get away with it or he didn't care

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Bummer that I'll be missing the announcement when I'm there this week, but I understand that Cedar Point is respecting both the man's family and the press by holding it off. Oh well. I'll just have to wait for the web stream online when it happens.

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I think Valravn is going to be used in 2017 for Kings Dominion or Canada's Wonderland's new coaster.

 

What're you talking about? The logo was leaked and it says Cedar Point. The name is the ONE thing that you can be sure of! You think they would ditch the name last minute?? Haha no way!

 

Edit: I read through everyone's speculation on the name, Valravn. Of course they're not going to change it, simmer down everyone! It's so unlikely that they would change the name because of this, every intimidating coaster name can be traced back to death in some sort, it's a stretch really. Everyone is exaggerating, they've postponed the announcement in order to stay out of the media for a little while, nothing else. Sheesh

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I think Valravn is going to be used in 2017 for Kings Dominion or Canada's Wonderland's new coaster.

 

What're you talking about? The logo was leaked and it says Cedar Point. The name is the ONE thing that you can be sure of! You think they would ditch the name last minute?? Haha no way!

 

Snowball's chance in hell they'll use it for the dive coaster. Do you realize that their reputation could be tarnished if they decided to use a name associated with death just days after someone died at their park? It will be either Centurion or "Lake Erie Monster" or something of that sort.

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I think Valravn is going to be used in 2017 for Kings Dominion or Canada's Wonderland's new coaster.

 

What're you talking about? The logo was leaked and it says Cedar Point. The name is the ONE thing that you can be sure of! You think they would ditch the name last minute?? Haha no way!

 

Snowball's chance in hell they'll use it for the dive coaster. Do you realize that their reputation could be tarnished if they decided to use a name associated with death just days after someone died at their park? It will be either Centurion or "Lake Erie Monster" or something of that sort.

 

Hahaha, Calm down there, bud. Don't get carried away, the name is fine...

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Why on Earth would they change the name just because some idiot did this to himself?

 

The death made it on national news tonight if you don't think the same media that had a field day with numerous topics this summer wouldn't go to town with a coaster themed to a death omen when someone just died at the park...

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^And you may in fact be right, but that just depresses me more! We live in a society where it's the parks fault that this idiot did something stupid and a place where someone sues a restaurant that specializes in throwing rolls for getting hit with a throwed roll.

 

Or the lady that sued McDonalds for not having a hot label on coffee cups. Then there's somebody who sued a fast food place for only getting one napkin with their meal. The list just goes on and on. If people just used some common sense and follow the rules, there wouldn't be so many restrictions and dollars wasted on safety warnings everywhere.

 

People have also sued Red Bull for not actually giving them wings and have won their cases.

 

The whole name change thing is really stupid if it does in fact happen. I doubt people would actually relate Valravn to this death as most people agree that the park is not at fault here.

 

Classic case of one person ruining everything for everyone else and why we cannot have nice things in this world.

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Why on Earth would they change the name just because some idiot did this to himself?

 

The death made it on national news tonight if you don't think the same media that had a field day with numerous topics this summer wouldn't go to town with a coaster themed to a death omen when someone just died at the park...

 

Valravn is the most vague name though. Is folklore, I couldn't find anywhere online where it was referred to as a "death omen".You guys are being ridiculous. It's a fairytale name at this point.

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Why on Earth would they change the name just because some idiot did this to himself?

 

The death made it on national news tonight if you don't think the same media that had a field day with numerous topics this summer wouldn't go to town with a coaster themed to a death omen when someone just died at the park...

 

Valravn is the most vague name though. Is folklore, I couldn't find anywhere online where it was referred to as a "death omen".You guys are being ridiculous. It's a fairytale name at this point.

 

If it is out there, the media will find it. It's not being ridiculous, it's the park preventing a potential major backlash.

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