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Sorry for the double post. This is important. I downloaded the .apk file for Cedar Point's VR app. I then decompiled it and looked at all files inside. Unfortunately there are no pictures of the animation that are viewable to your average user (and frankly, I have no idea how to go into the code to view the 3d render).

 

This is the important part. I went into a random file called "mainData" because well, it said main so I assumed the bulk of code would be there. Well it opens in notepad and there's all those random characters that no one understands with a few words scattered about. I almost quit there, but I decided, "Hey, what if the word Valravn is in here somewhere!?". I did Ctrl+F, searched the word Valravn. Sure enough Valravn came up highlighted next. If that doesn't already confirm that at least the name is indeed valravn, I don't know what does! Why would they stick the word Valravn in coding files for an app if it was just a fake? They wouldn't. Also, I noticed the word fastest to the left of the word Valravn.

 

Edit: Ah, more conclusive evidence has been posted on the last page as I was typing. All the doubters, you have no reason to expect anything else now.

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I'll leave this here:

 

http://m.imgur.com/a/mvfRv

 

OMG!!! WHERE IS THE VERTICAL LOOP?!?! WHY IS THERE NO VERTICAL LOOP?? I CAN'T BELIEVE THEY WOULD DO THIS TO US. UGH I'M NEVER GOING TO CEDAR POINT AGAIN.

 

In all seriousness though, *if* this turns out to be the real layout... no complaints from me. It looks like a solid addition to the park.

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Dom497 wrote:

I'll leave this here:

Like I said this looks promising. At least 3 different Inversions on a Dive so we get to see more tricks.

That said, and I know people will think I'm complaining believe I'm not, the Immelmann after the drop has the seen that done that feeling to it. I mean every Dive after Sheikra had that like to see them do some other trick for once. And not going the Krake route with adding a Splash between them, I mean that still looks to a drop followed by a Immelmann to me as the splash is just a straight path and not a "Real" element. But the lay-out looks great and will work with the public for sure.

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I'm convinced that this is real. If it is it's a shame it was leaked and it was not a surprise. I don't like it when the excitement gets taken out of announcements from leaked images/logos, but it's not that big of a deal. The layout looks good, it's a lot similar to the previous dive machines than I thought it would be.

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The layout looks cool enough to me, the element after the second Immelman seems interesting. A height of only 223ft is kind of disappointing, although it still will be the highest dive coaster in the world, which is nothing to complain about.

 

Someone should check the footprint of the renderings and see if they match up with the clearing at CP.

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So are these real or is this something someone made? What do we think?

The logo looks real, but the coaster rendering doesn't look anything like what the guy who normally does them would look like.

This needs to be cleared up

 

These renders were taken from the code of the VR app, not a render that is supposed to be released to the public. Therefore, these aren't the quality or detail of what we will see on media day. That's why we don't see catwalks, chain, brakes, etc.

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This needs to be cleared up

 

These renders were taken from the code of the VR app, not a render that is supposed to be released to the public. Therefore, these aren't the quality or detail of what we will see on media day. That's why we don't see catwalks, chain, brakes, etc.

 

All well and good. But, I don't see why if you already have a digital model of something why you would create an entirely different one for a separate app. Granted I know nothing about VR apps, but I would think one model could be imported into the app just as well as another...even at a lower resolution. Also, if you're going to announce a new ride with something new (like VR), wouldn't you want it to look amazing...not like a five year old created it in their basement?

 

Granted, I could be wrong and this could be real, but I hope what was leaked was a really rough working model that has since been updated for the announcement. Maybe the final quality model we're used to from them wasn't done and they just wanted to see how the process was going to work? Let's hope so.

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So disappointed by the layout. Ugh. It's just going to be so foreceless. I mean... you can tell just by looking at it. They should have just put another Windseeker in its place. No one is even going to ride this. It will be a "one and done." /EndTypicalCoasterEnthusiastsComplaints

 

Personally, I think the coaster looks great. Yes the first half very much resembles SheiKra. Which leads me to think... maybe it is real, because it seems like something B&M would do. On the other hand it makes me think it is fake, because I feel like Cedar Point would want something a little more creative. However, the second half of the ride looks very unique. I love the Dive loop, into what looks like a mix between half of a corkscrew and a zero-g-roll.

 

Real, or not... it looks like a really solid coaster, and I would enjoy it!! But then again... maybe I'm not as jaded as other coaster enthusiast.

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How's Gatekeeper fare with the GP? I've not ridden it yet but I've heard it's pretty bland.

 

By the same token, Valravn looks like it'll be the same thing. Big and pretty but mostly a bore. Dammit, B&M, did your balls drop off in 2004?

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This needs to be cleared up

 

These renders were taken from the code of the VR app, not a render that is supposed to be released to the public. Therefore, these aren't the quality or detail of what we will see on media day. That's why we don't see catwalks, chain, brakes, etc.

 

All well and good. But, I don't see why if you already have a digital model of something why you would create an entirely different one for a separate app. Granted I know nothing about VR apps, but I would think one model could be imported into the app just as well as another...even at a lower resolution. Also, if you're going to announce a new ride with something new (like VR), wouldn't you want it to look amazing...not like a five year old created it in their basement?

 

Granted, I could be wrong and this could be real, but I hope what was leaked was a really rough working model that has since been updated for the announcement. Maybe the final quality model we're used to from them wasn't done and they just wanted to see how the process was going to work? Let's hope so.

 

The complexity of the press model is much, much too complex for a phone to render in real time regardless of the resolution (phone resolutions are pretty high, anyways). The lower quality material is specially designed to be able to be rendered with as little computing power as possible, so that the app can work smoothly. You're expecting too much out of real-time-high-framerate phone graphics.

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