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P. 1989: Wicked Twister's permanent closure announced!

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Just remembered one thing... We could be seeing one more CF countdown very soon.., CP's not outa the woods yet...

 

Here in Toronto, today was a provincial holiday. Therefore, a CW countdown could very well be released tomorrow (a time when more people in their region will be on their computers/checking their email.

 

And even if their countdown doesn't start tomorrow, CW usually announces their additions late anyway, so you may be seeing a countdown either later this week or next.

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I love how suddenly everyone is all "OMG! I can't wait for the Dive Machine at Cedar Point. It is going to be such a great ride. It's going to be such a great fit for the park. I love the colors." When... earlier everyone was "Omg, I can't believe Cedar Point is getting a Dive Machine... Dive Machines suck. They are so boring, so forceless, not record breaking enough. The colors are ugly. It's not going to stand out. " I spent pages trying to convince people that Dive Machines are actually really good coasters, and everyone fought me on it, and now everyone is all for the Dive Machine.

 

Hey, it got the Alvey seal of approval. Everyone has to be on-board now.

Now hang on a second here... Just because I said I have liked *ONE* B&M Dive Machine (and it's clones), isn't necessarily the "Alvey seal of approval." I will say that I have much better hope for a B&M Dive Machine to be something cool versus my initial thoughts on Gatekeeper. That being said, would I rather it be some sort of crazy RMC re-do of Mean Streak or a "WTF is that crazy thing" Intamin that we knew nothing about? You bet.

 

But the way things are lining up, I'd be "ok" to "pleasantly happy" with a Dive Machine if it's on par or better than SheiKra.

 

That's all I said.

How do we know if we've gotten the "Alvey seal of approval"?

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A countdown has been added to the Cedar Point website and we have an announcement time: 9:00 PM.

 

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This is exciting as one of Cedar Fair's best announcements was the nighttime announcement of Banshee. I think all of this "darkness" going around just further backs up Valravn.

The font does look very Valravn-y. You know, it has that Viking/Medieval vibe to it.

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Definitely in favor over here for the names Centurion and White Lightning over Valravn. Not a chance I pronounce that correctly.

 

I'm not going to look too far into the fonts and everything. I'll never forget the Whyte Lightning tease in 2010...bogus.

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Definitely in favor over here for the names Centurion and White Lightning over Valravn. Not a chance I pronounce that correctly.

 

I'm not going to look too far into the fonts and everything. I'll never forget the Whyte Lightning tease in 2010...bogus.

 

I can't even figure out what this person is saying when pronouncing the word... But it sounds like they are trying to say Val-raven... but their dentures slipped in the middle of it.

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I wonder if there is any significance to the date being presented also in Roman Numerals.

 

Plot twist! It's a B&M Dive Coaster named Centurion!

Where do you see Roman Numerals?

 

There are multiple places in this thread where it's been posted so far, but here is a link to the page where Robb posted it... (middle of the page)

 

http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=28853&start=24000

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I'm probably in the minority here, but I'm hoping the ride has 8 across seating rather than 10. Sheikra to me is much more aesthetically pleasing than Griffon, Griffon's trains just look overly big and awkward.

 

That being said, I was watching a Sheikra pov and I've never noticed before that Sheikra can have one train going up the lift and another on the holding brake of first drop simultaneously. No wonder CP wants one of these, looks like it could really produce some serious PPH throughput.

 

Still not that excited about the idea of a dive machine at CP, I dont see myself returning to the park again until they RMC Mean Streak or do something Intamin again or other.

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I don't understand why several people say they would not be excited about a DM at CP. I personally love the idea of having so many different types of Coasters at one park, be it what some call "gimmick" or not. To me its a Roller Coaster Enthusiasts dream to have such a variety. That's just my opinion though.

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I'm very excited for this, I love dive machines!

 

But what makes me even MORE excited is the fact that the only other model B&M offers that CP doesn't have, and is not redundant in their current lineup, is a flyer! And if they keep sticking to B&M, and get a flyer, they'll be out of beemers to buy, and they'll HAVE to go to someone else! That's when we'll FINALLY get Steel Meaner Streak!

 

All jokes aside, if they are truthfully getting a DM, I think it's a great fit, and Ill be there for the grand opening

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^ I've envisioned a B&M Flyer at CP for many years now.

 

You and me both! I've been strongly desirous of a custom, terrain interactive B&M Flyer, ever since the mid 2000's. Just ask any of my enthusiast friends from back then, as it was all I ever talked about wanting at CP! Unfortunately, I suspect that I may very well die with that dream unrealized, in spite of all the other wonderful things CP has done...

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But what makes me even MORE excited is the fact that the only other model B&M offers that CP doesn't have, and is not redundant in their current lineup, is a flyer! And if they keep sticking to B&M, and get a flyer, they'll be out of beemers to buy, and they'll HAVE to go to someone else! That's when we'll FINALLY get Steel Meaner Streak!

I like your thinking lol

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I don't understand why several people say they would not be excited about a DM at CP. I personally love the idea of having so many different types of Coasters at one park, be it what some call "gimmick" or not. To me its a Roller Coaster Enthusiasts dream to have such a variety. That's just my opinion though.

 

I think anyone would rather wait (especially considering he collection they have right now) and get an RMC Mean Streak.

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I'm probably in the minority here, but I'm hoping the ride has 8 across seating rather than 10. Sheikra to me is much more aesthetically pleasing than Griffon, Griffon's trains just look overly big and awkward.

 

I agree that the Griffon trains look a little unwieldy (although it's kind of cool to see that huge train turning upside above you when you are standing on the bridge watching it). Although I would prefer bigger trains to increase capacity, I suspect we will see slightly narrower ones to deal with the all the maneuvers it apparently will have after the drop (if the Sandusky Register article was credible).

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If it is a coaster, does this raise or lower the possibility of a KI giga in 2017?

 

That probability is zero. Kings Dominion's getting a coaster in 2017, and Canada's Wonderland is due sometime as well (probably 2018). 2019 is Kings Island's year IMO.

 

Where have you heard that KD is getting a coaster in 2017?

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^It's just assumption at this point, with Shockwave leaving, and KD not having a new coaster in a while, it's only a matter of time.

 

Shockwave is being retired because of it being way past its prime. CF knows stand-ups are infamous, hence the Mantis transformation and other (rumored) transformations.

 

 

Every post-paramount park received a B&M hyper. Which was Kinzel's master plan to bring a hyper to every park due to it being a raging success at CP in 1989. Anyways, every post-paramount park since then has received another large investments coaster-wise. Canada's Wonderland received Behemoth ($22m) in 2008, and Leviathan ($28m) in 2012. Kings Island received Diamondback ($22m) in 2009, and Banshee ($24m) in 2014. Carowinds saw Intimidator ($23m) in 2010, and Fury 325 ($30m) in 2015.

 

Kings Dominion saw Intimidaor 305 in 2010. And by the look of things, Kings Dominion is pouring most of its resources into expanding their waterpark and are even retiring a roller coaster to do so. Valleyfair is the other CF park that seems to be focusing on water more than rides. Not saying a new coaster is impossible, because it is inevitable. KD doesn't seem to be anywhere on a priority list for one.

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