livai 0 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Baron 1898 has the two rows of seven formation, and has an hourly theoretical capacity of 1000. Griffon has the three rows of ten formation, and has a theoretical hourly capacity of 1400. B&M''s always have high capacity so you shouldn't worry about that at all. Baron, oblivion (Gardaland) and krake not have carried 1,000 people per hour, even if the operators caricassero trains at the speed of light Link to post Share on other sites
Coaster Hero 0 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Also, to add to the discussion, my money's on them paving the entire park and starting over as a super sized Dave & Busters.Edit - "All will become clear in 2016." Boom. Proof. They're clearing the park. Link to post Share on other sites
Brassinthegrass 0 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Baron, oblivion (Gardaland) and krake not have carried 1,000 people per hour, even if the operators caricassero trains at the speed of light Yea but those are the smaller trains, I'm sure cedar point would use the larger ten across trains... Link to post Share on other sites
livai 0 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Baron, l'oblio (Gardaland) e krake non hanno effettuato 1.000 persone all'ora, anche se gli operatori caricassero i treni alla velocità della luce [/ quote] Sì, ma questi sono i treni più piccoli, sono sicuro punto di cedro avrebbe usato il più grande dieci attraverso treni ... sure sure, I'm sure cedar point will use trains as of griffon, or perhaps even larger Link to post Share on other sites
Philrad71 0 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 The teaser looks suspiciously familiar to this David Gilmour ad I just got on a website. [attachment=0]Capture.PNG[/attachment] Pink Floyd: The Ride?!!?!??? I would approve of this. Link to post Share on other sites
cmullin 0 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Uhh, I thought this was a Cedar Point thread A classic misconception of recently. Link to post Share on other sites
blakelemay23 0 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Really stupid question So if: Hyper = 200-299ft Giga = 300-399ft Strata = 400+ or whatever Doesen't this make "Valravn" a diving hyper coaster and not a 500ft RMC Aquatrax Diver with keyholes through frontier town?? Link to post Share on other sites
The Geek Mojo 0 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 I think a record breaking Dive Coaster (if that's what it is) would be great for the park seeing how there is only two other coasters like this in the US, which are no where near the park. We need more Dive coasters in the US...They're awesome rides. Just a prediction here but I feel Cedar Point gets the giant coaster in 2016 which will be a dive coaster. Kings Dominion will get the giant coaster in 2017 which will be a large launched wing coaster. Who knows about 2018...But I do believe this will be the year Cedar Point gets it's dark ride from Triotech. And if Six Flags puts two RMC's in per year in 2017, 2018, 2019...They'll be done with RMC which will leave Cedar Point clear to have RMC all to themselves in 2020...Which will be Mean Streaks year. I just personally believe Cedar Point has a great plan set for the next five years. 2016 - Coaster / 2017 - Waterpark addition / 2018 - Triotech / 2019 - Flat ride / 2020 - RMC...But that's just my opinion...Doesn't really matter what I think. Just fun to guess. Link to post Share on other sites
aaron88stang 0 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 In case you missed it, here is what Cedar Point sent out today...[attachment=0]CLgFZu2UsAA8R77.png[/attachment] I wonder if there is any significance to the date being presented also in Roman Numerals. Link to post Share on other sites
tororific 0 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 I would love a Dive Coaster. I thought Griffon was excellent-- loved the look of it, the drop under the bridge was fantastic, as was the inversion and the drop in the ravine. I had low expectations of Dive Coasters, and was really happily surprised by both Griffon and Sheikra. If CP's Dive Coaster incorporates more elements like Baron and the one in Italy, then we are in for a great treat. The only concern will be capacity ( which I will avoid going into!) if they end up with the smaller trains, which I think they have to in order to be able to do Baron-like maneuvers (don't think the Griffon train can do many maneuvers).... although I am sure CP will figure out a way to get lots of capacity out of it. Link to post Share on other sites
Koasterking48 0 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Agreeing with everyone who likes dive coasters. Sheikra is a really great ride and Cedar Point will obviously just make one better. On a side note, I finally got home from my impromptu CP trip Saturday and bought the Nanocoaster from the Pagoda Gift Shop. It looks really great on a desktop! Im definitely buying Gatekeeper and Dragster! Link to post Share on other sites
ElectricUncleSam 0 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Uhh, I thought this was a Cedar Point thread Yeah, how the fuck did we get to a KI giga from a CP dive machine? Link to post Share on other sites
ElectricUncleSam 0 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Agreeing with everyone who likes dive coasters. Sheikra is a really great ride and Cedar Point will obviously just make one better. On a side note, I finally got home from my impromptu CP trip Saturday and bought the Nanocoaster from the Pagoda Gift Shop. It looks really great on a desktop! [attachment=0]image.jpeg[/attachment] [attachment=1]image.jpeg[/attachment] [attachment=2]image.jpeg[/attachment] [attachment=3]image.jpeg[/attachment] [attachment=4]image.jpeg[/attachment] Im definitely buying Gatekeeper and Dragster! So, and this is probably a dumbass question, but how much building/assembly goes into it? Link to post Share on other sites
DoinItForTheFame 4 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 I love how suddenly everyone is all "OMG! I can't wait for the Dive Machine at Cedar Point. It is going to be such a great ride. It's going to be such a great fit for the park. I love the colors." When... earlier everyone was "Omg, I can't believe Cedar Point is getting a Dive Machine... Dive Machines suck. They are so boring, so forceless, not record breaking enough. The colors are ugly. It's not going to stand out. " I spent pages trying to convince people that Dive Machines are actually really good coasters, and everyone fought me on it, and now everyone is all for the Dive Machine. Link to post Share on other sites
IdahoKat 0 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Agreeing with everyone who likes dive coasters. Sheikra is a really great ride and Cedar Point will obviously just make one better. On a side note, I finally got home from my impromptu CP trip Saturday and bought the Nanocoaster from the Pagoda Gift Shop. It looks really great on a desktop! [attachment=0]image.jpeg[/attachment] Im definitely buying Gatekeeper and Dragster! That is awesome! Makes me wish I had found that one in the shop to buy for me. Link to post Share on other sites
XShortestStrawX 0 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 I love how suddenly everyone is all "OMG! I can't wait for the Dive Machine at Cedar Point. It is going to be such a great ride. It's going to be such a great fit for the park. I love the colors." When... earlier everyone was "Omg, I can't believe Cedar Point is getting a Dive Machine... Dive Machines suck. They are so boring, so forceless, not record breaking enough. The colors are ugly. It's not going to stand out. " I spent pages trying to convince people that Dive Machines are actually really good coasters, and everyone fought me on it, and now everyone is all for the Dive Machine. Hey, it got the Alvey seal of approval. Everyone has to be on-board now. Link to post Share on other sites
boldikus 131 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 I love how suddenly everyone is all "OMG! I can't wait for the Dive Machine at Cedar Point. It is going to be such a great ride. It's going to be such a great fit for the park. I love the colors." When... earlier everyone was "Omg, I can't believe Cedar Point is getting a Dive Machine... Dive Machines suck. They are so boring, so forceless, not record breaking enough. The colors are ugly. It's not going to stand out. " I spent pages trying to convince people that Dive Machines are actually really good coasters, and everyone fought me on it, and now everyone is all for the Dive Machine. Link to post Share on other sites
robbalvey 89 Posted August 4, 2015 Author Share Posted August 4, 2015 (edited) I love how suddenly everyone is all "OMG! I can't wait for the Dive Machine at Cedar Point. It is going to be such a great ride. It's going to be such a great fit for the park. I love the colors." When... earlier everyone was "Omg, I can't believe Cedar Point is getting a Dive Machine... Dive Machines suck. They are so boring, so forceless, not record breaking enough. The colors are ugly. It's not going to stand out. " I spent pages trying to convince people that Dive Machines are actually really good coasters, and everyone fought me on it, and now everyone is all for the Dive Machine. Hey, it got the Alvey seal of approval. Everyone has to be on-board now. Now hang on a second here... Just because I said I have liked *ONE* B&M Dive Machine (and it's clones), isn't necessarily the "Alvey seal of approval." I will say that I have much better hope for a B&M Dive Machine to be something cool versus my initial thoughts on Gatekeeper. That being said, would I rather it be some sort of crazy RMC re-do of Mean Streak or a "WTF is that crazy thing" Intamin that we knew nothing about? You bet. But the way things are lining up, I'd be "ok" to "pleasantly happy" with a Dive Machine if it's on par or better than SheiKra. That's all I said. Edited August 4, 2015 by robbalvey Link to post Share on other sites
DILinator 0 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 I wonder if there is any significance to the date being presented also in Roman Numerals. Plot twist! It's a B&M Dive Coaster named Centurion! Link to post Share on other sites
MiABeta 0 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 I wonder if there is any significance to the date being presented also in Roman Numerals. Plot twist! It's a B&M Dive Coaster named Centurion! Maybe Tony specifically made them take the name out as Cedar Point to confuse us. Valran will go to another park and then Centurion from Carowinds(wait right?) actually goes to CP. Link to post Share on other sites
canadianparkfan 0 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 I love how suddenly everyone is all "OMG! I can't wait for the Dive Machine at Cedar Point. It is going to be such a great ride. It's going to be such a great fit for the park. I love the colors." When... earlier everyone was "Omg, I can't believe Cedar Point is getting a Dive Machine... Dive Machines suck. They are so boring, so forceless, not record breaking enough. The colors are ugly. It's not going to stand out. " I spent pages trying to convince people that Dive Machines are actually really good coasters, and everyone fought me on it, and now everyone is all for the Dive Machine. They're just now praying to the coaster gods that the b&m track doesn't get shipped north of the border. Don't worry... Either way, the complaining will start up very soon once again. Either "why didn't we get it?" If CW gets the coaster, or "Why a dive machine/this or that" if it's announced for CP. Link to post Share on other sites
tororific 0 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 kind of sucks that the Sandusky Register ruined the surprise for us so early Link to post Share on other sites
coasterkid124 0 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 I love how suddenly everyone is all "OMG! I can't wait for the Dive Machine at Cedar Point. It is going to be such a great ride. It's going to be such a great fit for the park. I love the colors." When... earlier everyone was "Omg, I can't believe Cedar Point is getting a Dive Machine... Dive Machines suck. They are so boring, so forceless, not record breaking enough. The colors are ugly. It's not going to stand out. " I spent pages trying to convince people that Dive Machines are actually really good coasters, and everyone fought me on it, and now everyone is all for the Dive Machine. Then the moment of truth happens and this is really just a dark ride, and everyone on the forum in unison screams NEWMAN! Link to post Share on other sites
Koasterking48 0 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 So, and this is probably a dumbass question, but how much building/assembly goes into it? Very easy assembly. You just punch/push out the metal parts from the tray and place them into the base in their respective slots. It took me roughly 15-20 minutes to carefully not bend any metal too far. Link to post Share on other sites
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