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Hate to derail the newride/dive conversation, but did anyone ever find an answer for how they addressed the heart-line issue on Rougarou going from standing to floorless?

It looks like the post that holds the seats up are a little bit taller then other floorless coasters

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What parking lot? This one?

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That's the parking lot for the marina, Famous Dave's and Human Resources. Don't think that's going anywhere. The area is not really that large. The pics I've seen provide a nice optical illusion that it's larger than it really is. It is perfect for a nice larger than normal dive coaster.

 

When I went the parking was fine but being on an island that can be an issue maybe they should get one of these

 

Seems to be working for Disney and they recouped enough space to build a whole park. lol. Parking is not a issue, it can be addressed.

 

Parking Garages are REALLY expensive. It's simply not worth it for the park. I think Cedar Point will be looking like Grona Lund before they start cutting into infrastructure space.

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I'm pretty sure this was answered somewhere in this thread, but what is the sound that some B&M's make coming out of the station?

 

From a Holiday World blog post:

Here’s the answer, from VP James: There are five sets of electrical contacts in the station (one per car). This allows the ride computer to talk to the train while in the station (for example, to check that the harnesses are all locked before dispatch). These are spring-loaded contacts, causing the ‘chch’ noise as the train passes over them.
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Hate to derail the newride/dive conversation, but did anyone ever find an answer for how they addressed the heart-line issue on Rougarou going from standing to floorless?

It looks like the post that holds the seats up are a little bit taller then other floorless coasters

I'm not sure about that but it does look like the seats are more reclined.

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Be interesting to see how this ends up, If this ends up better than Mantis lets hope they do it to their two other standups (both Vortex's)

 

I'm sure it'll be better than Mantis. Getting run over by a truck would be better than Mantis.

 

I like the Carowinds Vortex though... I'd leave that one alone, and this is coming from someone that hates every other standup coaster.

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I love that Cedar Point is preserving their rides, making improvements to areas, etc. I love almost everything B&M has done except for the old stand up craze, I just think that gimmick is overrated (even after how much hate it gets anyway). The Mantis layout has that old school intensity which should be great with new, better trains! I'm also happy that they're putting comfort restraints on Maverick, as that's been one of the only complaints of the ride from enthusiasts. Way to go CP!

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...did anyone ever find an answer for how they addressed the heart-line issue on Rougarou going from standing to floorless?

 

Easy. The heartline isn't nearly as important or finite of an aspect of track design as enthusiasts have assumed it was all these years - at least not for Mantis' layout. I agree that I can't wait to experience an old school B&M design on new school B&M trains!!!

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I'm really looking forward to this too. I love all the B&M sitdown/floorless coasters I've ridden, and Rougarou might now be a fantastic ride to marathon while everyone else is as Millennium Force, Dragster, or Maverick.

 

Mantis always had a line and now will have a longer one. Good luck with your marathoning:)

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I'm really looking forward to this too. I love all the B&M sitdown/floorless coasters I've ridden, and Rougarou might now be a fantastic ride to marathon while everyone else is as Millennium Force, Dragster, or Maverick.

 

Mantis always had a line and now will have a longer one. Good luck with your marathoning:)

 

Every time I've been to Cedar Point Mantis had a line. The shortest I ever saw it was 45 minutes and the longest was 2.5 hours. Usually it was always around 1.75 hours. That's why I was initially surprised that Mantis was getting new trains in order to improve the experience. I think an average 1.75 hour line suggests that people enjoyed the current experience and I include myself in that. As far as the marathon goes good luck. The only time I can see that being a possibility is on Fridays during Halloweekends. That's when I hope to get plenty of rides.

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Every time I've been to Cedar Point Mantis had a line. The shortest I ever saw it was 45 minutes and the longest was 2.5 hours. Usually it was always around 1.75 hours. That's why I was initially surprised that Mantis was getting new trains in order to improve the experience. I think an average 1.75 hour line suggests that people enjoyed the current experience and I include myself in that. As far as the marathon goes good luck. The only time I can see that being a possibility is on Fridays during Halloweekends. That's when I hope to get plenty of rides.

 

I think the standup gimmick is something that needs to live on just so people can try it. I definitely don't think you should stand up on all roller coasters but I think it's a fun little experience once in a while. That being said, I was never impressed with Mantis as a standup. I think it was a good decision making it floorless. Riddler's Revenge is a different story, though.

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I went for a weekend last year and on a Sunday and Mantis was almost a walk-on. I think we waited like 15 minute at best. We walked up to the station queue at best. I am kinda interested in how this will work. and then it makes me wonder can other coasters transformed. Is it possible to make an inverted coaster, a winged coaster or a flyer. Probably not probable but just a thought.

 

I never understood the standup coaster but I think in a way Cedar Point should have kept the stand up coaster b/c it is a unique type of coaster. Of the stand ups that I have been on Mantis was pretty good. They got rid of the disaster transport, a bobsled and now a stand up coaster. No point in thinking about it now b/c the damage is done.

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