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What's with the complaining about the name?????????

 

Even if there was a shitty SLC named Old Fashioned Nacho with Guac Favorite IPA Amazeballs #1 Bourbon coaster I still wouldn't want to ride it.

 

That made-up name is still better than The Tickler.

 

Personally, I think the name Rougarou is cool. Gives it a hint of "exotic" amongst the English-named rides.

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The only problem that I have with Rougarou is recognition. It's not like Sasquatch, a name that almost everyone knows is synonymous with Bigfoot. It's a pretty obscure Cajun bayou legend. It would make more sense in a park in that region of the country. But it's similar to the way the Schwarzkopf Monster at Six Flags Over Mid-America was named MoMo. We thought it was just a monster or maybe some lake giant octopus myth. MoMo is actually a Southwest Missouri bigfoot type creature. So I don't think many people will care too much about the name, and the swamp re-themeing and explanation of the name will add another culture's werewolf legend to most people's imagination, just as most of us on here didn't know about it until recently.

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Phase 1: Attraction is teased

Phase 2: Expectations are set too high

Phase 3: Attraction is announced

Phase 4: Complaining

Phase 5: Complaining about complaining

Phase 6: Arguing about complaining

Phase 7: Complaining about arguing about complaining

Phase 8: Attraction is finished

Phase 9: Trip reports and photos

Phase 10: Speculation for next attraction

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^Sorry, I'm just a bit of a stickler on grammar. Probably a hypocrite too, since my grammar is not so great.

 

That is why it's important for folks to fill out their profile properly and list their location. This way people can tell if it is someone from a foreign country that might struggle with English grammar/spelling or someone that is just lazily punching it into their smart phone and hitting send.

 

OMG who the **** cares??

 

Dark ride? I wish they would open it September 19th in 2015. They could resurrect Pirate Ride. It will be a WMG type of ride. You shoot down the pirate ship, and then you get shot down, and go through 2 barrel rolls. That would be the world's best dark ride!

 

Wait.... what?

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Phase 1: Attraction is teased

Phase 2: Expectations are set too high

Phase 3: Attraction is announced

Phase 4: Complaining

Phase 5: Complaining about complaining

Phase 6: Arguing about complaining

Phase 7: Complaining about arguing about complaining

Phase 8: Attraction is finished

Phase 9: Trip reports and photos

Phase 10: Speculation for next attraction

 

So true. I really don't see the need to complain over Rougarou because it looks like it will be a great ride!

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I thought people didn't like WMG.

 

If Cedar Fair decided to do another WMG-type dark ride........

 

1. No shooting

2. Lighter Screens

3. Garner Holt Animatronics.

 

I wonder if Canada's Wonderland was going to add some fiberglass caverns but didn't get to because of the cold winter. That would have made the ride about 5% better.

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^Sorry, I'm just a bit of a stickler on grammar. Probably a hypocrite too, since my grammar is not so great.

 

That is why it's important for folks to fill out their profile properly and list their location. This way people can tell if it is someone from a foreign country that might struggle with English grammar/spelling or someone that is just lazily punching it into their smart phone and hitting send.

 

OMG who the **** cares??

 

Obviously I do or else I wouldn't have responded?

 

There are rules about intelligent posting (proper grammar and spelling) and the post that tarheel referenced was very close to violating those rules. I had to read the post a couple of times to try and understand the question that this person was asking.

 

But there is always the chance that this person is from another country and may only know limited English so you have to give his first post the benefit of the doubt. That was my reasoning behind having the country of origin specified in one's profile.

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^Sorry, I'm just a bit of a stickler on grammar. Probably a hypocrite too, since my grammar is not so great.

 

That is why it's important for folks to fill out their profile properly and list their location. This way people can tell if it is someone from a foreign country that might struggle with English grammar/spelling or someone that is just lazily punching it into their smart phone and hitting send.

 

OMG who the **** cares??

 

Obviously I do or else I wouldn't have responded?

 

There are rules about intelligent posting (proper grammar and spelling) and the post that tarheel referenced was very close to violating those rules. I had to read the post a couple of times to try and understand the question that this person was asking.

 

But there is always the chance that this person is from another country and may only know limited English so you have to give his first post the benefit of the doubt. That was my reasoning behind having the country of origin specified in one's profile.

 

The backseat moderating stops now, please. The IP of the original post that triggered this gripefest resolves to France, if anyone's interested.

 

Let's leave moderating to the moderators. Thank you.

 

I now return you to the CP Discussion Thread, which is already in progress.

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Hopefully Rougarou will bring the crowds Cedar Point hopes to have. 2014 was far from their best year...and nothing about Rougarou is truly "groundbreaking".

 

An old-school B&M floorless coaster will open next year. This is beyond groundbreaking, it's a miracle.

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Hopefully Rougarou will bring the crowds Cedar Point hopes to have. 2014 was far from their best year...and nothing about Rougarou is truly "groundbreaking".

 

Someone is taking a crappy stand-up and putting floorless trains on it which has been an enthusiast pipe dream for years but has never been done. I'd say that's groundbreaking. They're taking arguably and in my mind the worst coaster in the park and making it good. Will Rougarou be as good as Millennium Force, Raptor, Maverick, Top Thrill Dragster or Gatekeeper? Probably not... but it's going to be another high quality coaster that I'll probably ride a ton every time I visit the park, and it's amazing that they're getting a fun ride out of an awful ride for a minimal investment. When we went for 3 days this year we rode every adult coaster multiple times except Mantis which we avoided like the plague and didn't even ride once.

 

There's nothing not to love about this.

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Hopefully Rougarou will bring the crowds Cedar Point hopes to have. 2014 was far from their best year...and nothing about Rougarou is truly "groundbreaking".

 

All of these projects are researched exhaustively, and Cedar Point isn't oblivious to the fact that it's not as flashy of an addition as GateKeeper, Maverick, TTD, or Millennium Force. I'm sure Cedar Point isn't forecasting a huge step forward in attendance with Rougarou as it is not the most groundbreaking ride, but it should add more value to the overall park experience. Also remember, 2014 was not a good year for many parks in the Midwest and Mid-Atlantic regions due to weather alone.

 

Rougarou should produce some impressive ridership totals if the ride experience is in fact smoother and more comfortable than Mantis. The capacity 3 train operation will produce combined with a fun, re-rideable experience that is not too intense but offers some flashy inversions should make for a popular ride. People might comment (not necessarily on TPR) how Gatekeeper is not that popular based on the lines at the end of the day, but they aren't looking at the grand total ridership it produces which is very impressive. I see Rougarou having the similar popularity to GateKeeper which has been a great success for CP despite the opinions of some enthusiasts. Based on the effects and floorless trains, Rougarou should give CP's overall high quality collection of coasters a nice boost.

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I don't want to sound pessimistic but am I the only one who is not super sure the ride will be so smooth? What if the track is part of the reason why it is rough? (although I know the trains must be the main one)

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I don't want to sound pessimistic but am I the only one who is not super sure the ride will be so smooth? What if the track is part of the reason why it is rough? (although I know the trains must be the main one)

 

Mantis was butter smooth when I rode it this year. I encountered some minor headbanging for the ride, which is probably what people are complaining about.

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I don't want to sound pessimistic but am I the only one who is not super sure the ride will be so smooth? What if the track is part of the reason why it is rough? (although I know the trains must be the main one)

 

I don't know if they would invest a lot of money in the ride if they thought it wasn't going to smooth with floorless trains.

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I too am hoping this ride is "heavily" themed. Maybe add some trees or something where the train hugs the ground to create near misses. Or even a portion of the second half indoor. Hell', turn off the midcourse break.

 

Rougarou is not going to be heavily themed. Plus, the promo already showed that there will be no indoor portion of the coaster.

 

It'll be themed lightly like the rest of the new CF coasters, like GateKeeper, Banshee, and Gold Striker.

 

However, I don't have much of a problem with this as I would take Cedar Fair's well-maintained lightly-themed queue area over Six Flags' "tried too hard" theming that really is only maintained for the first few years.

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I wouldn't expect this to be rough, if anything it may end up a very mild ride. Standups should be less intense except for the standing up part. Fortunately it needed trims as a standup. As to the subject of the heartline being lower on a floorless, they could have made floorless trains with elevated seats. Though a moot question, I wonder if that would be intense hanging way above the track, or it's better when it looks like your feet could touch the track.

 

The main exciting thing about this, to me, is Cedar Fair getting more into the ride improvements game. Improved coaster (hopefully) on an "off-year" budget.

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I don't want to sound pessimistic but am I the only one who is not super sure the ride will be so smooth? What if the track is part of the reason why it is rough? (although I know the trains must be the main one)

 

I don't know if they would invest a lot of money in the ride if they thought it wasn't going to smooth with floorless trains.

I'll be really interested to see how it rides. I wonder if it'll be just like a new coaster.

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If I remember correctly, the trim was added in 1997 to lessen the positive g-forces so it could become more comfortable to ride. Although when I rode it in July of 2013, it felt like the trim was hardly working, think I only heard it touch the train for only a quick "clap." That ride did feel quite uncomfortable on my legs.

 

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You can see that there was a 3rd trim on it at one point as there are mounting points just above the two there now. Anyone have any pictures of it from a few years back that still had that 3rd one? It seems that was removed fairly recently as the mounting holes are not covered by the 2005 paint job.

 

Really do hope that maybe this will be removed, due to it not being in the render, and the fact that the forces will be applied to a completely different area versus being on someone's legs.

I was there in August last year and a lady told her son this part of the track launched you into the loop. She said the loop was taller than the drop.

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