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P. 1989: Wicked Twister's permanent closure announced!

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Um... i think Mantis is going to relocate

 

https://twitter.com/TonyClarkCP/status/506467064803254272/photo/1

 

3. Relocate Mantis

 

 

Does anyone think relocating Mantis to Canada's Wonderland is an option at all? I'd be so upset if so the ride hurts so much I rode it two weeks ago with my partner and he hated it to I really hope we don't see Mantis show up...

 

From what I saw on the Canada Wonderland forum, they showed a Google Earth pick of the old Skyrider site that looks a little similar to a Mantis footprint. However, I am actually pulling for a redo with new floorless trains, paint and refurb of the area. And Valleyfair and other CF parks need a coaster before CW.

Also, why would they relocate a B&M Stand-Up if they got rid of a TOGO Stand-Up

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Then ad 2 kidding coasters to take back the record.

Six Flags already have ad coasters. I think they were kidding about Looping Dragon being a coaster, too.

 

It is pretty clear what is going to be announced here:

 

Dueling Draggin' Iron!!! Double the Dullness.

And Double the Duelness too.

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You know if Mantis does get the overhaul, I hope some good money is put into some extremely nice themeing. Banshee is exceptional for Cedar Fair, so hopefully we see a nicely themed ride instead of just a sign for Cedar Point?

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Looks like somebody took TPR Forum posts a little too seriously

Among the (hopeful) conjecture from park fanatics: a complete reworking of wooden coaster Mean Streak, a new water coaster known as AquaTrax and – perhaps most popular – the addition of a dark ride to the midway area near the Blue Streak roller coaster.

 

www.cleveland.com (last paragraph)

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Darkness falls on #12. Does this mean the 2015 addition will be announced on Oct. 12th? Or do you think it will be the 19th along with Mantis's squishing?

 

I believe it was the twelfth coaster at the Point (5 were built after, then Wildcat was removed-16 presently).

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Here's what I gotta say: I hope for a new coaster if it were to be added next year, however if Mantis were leaving, a new coaster probably wouldn't go in its spot till 2016 at the latest. So if thats the case, then I hope that they re-profile it and make it a lot better.

 

The reason I say this is because I'm going next year and I don't want to lose a credit unless I'm getting a new one in its place

But it'll probably be the re profile.

 

Second half is indoors.

 

Call me crazy, but I was thinking the same thing. Having new sit-down trains, a new theme/name, a new color scheme AND having the second half indoors with special effects would be very marketable. Definitely a heck of a lot better than some of the coasters parks are putting in nowadays...

 

Totally could be done in my opinion, but I still don't think it will. Everything after the MCBR could easily be put indoors and is low to the ground so a high ugly building wouldn't be necessary. Plus, the second half is in an area of the park that is hardly visible, so the building wouldn't have to be beautiful. But we all know CP doesn't mind ugly buildings anyways *cough*Disaster Transport*cough*.

I love this idea! I hope it happens! It probably won't though, but I can dream!

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Darkness falls on #12. Does this mean the 2015 addition will be announced on Oct. 12th? Or do you think it will be the 19th along with Mantis's squishing?

 

I believe it was the twelfth coaster at the Point (5 were built after, then Wildcat was removed-16 presently).

 

Correct.

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Not a good time to be a Standup at a Cedar Fair park. I hope the Vortices can hang one for at least one more season. It sounds ridiculous with all the other great coasters in California and King's Dominion, but there is a good possibility that a pair of old, unloved B&M Standups are what finally brings me to California and King's Dominion, respectively.

 

I'm glad I have plenty of laps on Mantis.

 

As for the Togo in Canada? Once was enough. I don't think they (Togo Standups) are rough, they just don't really do anything for me.

 

The other Vortex is at Carowinds. King's Dominion has Shockwave...a Togo Standup.

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^That might have been a joke.

 

Aqua trax is on that list.

NO!!! It is to be taken SERIOUSLY! Mantis WILL be re-located. AquaTrax WILL be built!!

 

Wait, I thought they were converting Mantis into the worlds first B&M Aquatrax.

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I predict they repaint Mantis, it gets floorless trains, and they rename it Return of the King. The 2nd half of the announcement will be a dark-ride similar to what Canada's Wonderland got this year.

 

But it would be seriously ironic if they sold Mantis to Kentucky Kingdom.

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I cant beleive that CP would actually remove mantis. i think they may reprofile the drop and maybe try to add an extra inversion or three. i easily see a cobra roll back by the creek and if they can figure out a way to get a zero-g roll in as well, that may go a long way to building a great coaster. It would also make for the first floorless coaster with the inclined loop, which would be something new on the standard 7 inversion B&M layouts

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Please forgive me if it's been mentioned at some point in the 20+ pages of speculation, but the teaser text:

 

Goodbye is never easy. In this case, it is.

 

If Mantis was being removed from the park entirely, I do not think the latter sentence would be part of the trailer, no matter how many people disliked the ride. I find it hard to believe that any park, especially Cedar Point, would openly suggest that *everyone* wants to see a particular ride removed.

 

If we are to assume Mantis will remain at Cedar Point, but as a new experience, be it new trains, paint, buildings, etc., then goodbye would be easy in this case, since it's not truly a goodbye. The teaser text makes a lot more sense in this context. Just my two cents.

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People really think it's leaving? B&Ms are expensive (and great IMO) and even very expensive to move. I can't imagine them taking it down. I don't think they would test the new scheme for speculation alone.

 

The reaper reaches for the train, the clues point more to a train conversion than a removal in my opinion. I imagine this is Rougarou in the making. I also wouldn't expect a dark ride until 2016. The conversion will be massively expensive and sufficient enough if they can breathe new life into that awesome layout.

 

I also wouldn't expect this show stopper coaster to be renamed king James. I'm thinking Wicked Twister for that one. Put a couple of hoops on the spikes for all I care.

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Why would anyone suggest enclosing the second half and having special effects?? We all know CP cannot maintain effects. How soon ye forget Magnum's tunnels, Maverick's tunnel, and Disaster Transport!

 

I'm holding out for something amazing, but I'm starting to question the whole "Roller Coaster Capital of the World" moniker now since they seem to be removing coasters faster than they put them in lately (even though I don't really think Mantis is leaving). I love Cedar Point since I grew up in Ohio and go back religiously every summer regardless of where in the world I live. But, on my visit this summer, my friend and I only re-rode Millennium and Dragster over and over again - the rest we just rode once or skipped. So, we either go too much, or there's better coasters elsewhere.

 

If they're really "overhaulin" Mantis, they should replace Maverick's restraints with the i305 straps so I can actually re-ride that one as well!

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I like indoor sections even if the effects are off though.

 

Anyways, that's a perfect Idea, unless something about the land would make building there hard to do. The second half of mantis is really fun, and would be great on a floorless.

 

Not expecting it to happen though.

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I retract my statement, if you watch the video it is very obvious the trains are the only thing going when death reaches out to touch the train it disappears in the next clip and then shows just the track layout, but you can clearly see them show the station empty after he touches the train.

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Maybe if they could either re-profile Mantis or just completely scrap it they could be the first coaster in the US with 8 inversions. They really need another good inverting coaster, all they have is Gatekeeper and Raptor.

And Corkscrew, and Maverick.

 

Corkscrew - Not good

 

Maverick - Has two inversions and isn't focused on them.

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Ok I hadn't seen the video until now, and it seems obvious from the production that this is a refit, with sit down trains at the least. It also is almost identical to the marketing tactics they used when they announced that steel phantom was closing!

 

I think CF is going to do something worthwhile with it.

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Maybe if they could either re-profile Mantis or just completely scrap it they could be the first coaster in the US with 8 inversions. They really need another good inverting coaster, all they have is Gatekeeper and Raptor.

 

Though I don't think the layout will change I, personally, would like to see them try to at least break the American records for most inversions on one coaster since the most we have is seven. Don't know how they would be able to add four more inversions to the existing layout but I would love to see a zero-G since I don't see the inclined loop staying.

 

Will the ride go back to three train operation like Mantis was originally supposed to run or will they stick with two?

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